dvnasty;842202708 said:

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This board is just the worst sometimes
We're taking our lumps but we are in good hands.

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Um, it appears that we are not.

dvnasty;842202708 said:

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This board is just the worst sometimes

The staff is cleaning up a massive mess left by Tedford and co. Letting him stay for so long really killed the program. This is a 3-4 year project. Any first year success went out the window when everyone got hurt. We're taking our lumps but we are in good hands.

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We're in good hands? Evidence....?

ykes

dvnasty;842202708 said:

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We're taking our lumps but we are in good hands.

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Based on what? All of the evidence to this point is to the contrary.

I haven't seen the team quit.

Do you really wanna know what happened with McCain? I don't know. But sometimes it is better we not know. Mostly for McCain's future. He will probably have a chance to transfer to another college and play. Let whatever happened sit between the coaching staff/Cal admin & McCain.

You're so wrong. Richard Lee once donated 75 cents to Cal, and now he is not only owed an explanation of everything that goes on in the locker room, but the right to participate in all AD decisions. Otherwise, he's gonna demand his 75 cents back.

Thus far, it is not my perception that this team has quite either. However, if one believes, like many have stated here, that the team, offense in particular, was energized and reinvigorated with the change at QB, I suppose I can see someone making such an argument though...

Along those lines, if anything, my only sense of this team not doing all that it can to win now was with our staff's unwillingness shake-up the QB spot after several weeks of subpar play at the position. There was seemingly not a consistent application of accountability as seen team wide at other positions where depth charts were utilized. I understand and have said, that at QB things can and should be different, but to a point. If the team feels that their QB is not leading with the requisite confidence, and SD has stated such since Oregon, one would tend to think that such sentiment is shared by at least some others on the team. This is problematic and can make for a festering situation...

I wonder if TF and SD have had some differences on our QB dilemma. I don't recall a head coach saying that his starting QB is confidence-challenged week after week for a month. I have found it perplexing that our HC can feel that way, see our offensive production and passing game spiral downward, yet maintain the status quo at the position, while everyone else's jobs are fair game for fresh blood infusion.

If the team feels this way in the slightest, there is apt to be some resentment and frustration, and effort on the field can then be impacted. We might be seeing some of that and why we got a bit of a jolt when Zach entered the game. Not taking away from his ability, what he did out there, but the team seemed more inspired because of the change...

Richard_Lee;842202069 said:

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I totally agree.

Love,

Chris McCain

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Someone loves him some Chris McCain dick. Get a room.

Actually...I was thinking maybe cal should have their own "croix de candlestick"- a symbol to be handed out for those who attend and stay to the end of games this year. It's becoming a death march and cal ATO needs to reward the faithful.

My iPad background photo is now of the "crowd" at 00:01 in the fourth quarter. Some day, a million people will claim to have been there. Just like "The Play". And, yeah, I was there.

Richard_Lee;842202121 said:

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Cal loses 55-16 against Oregon. A few hours after the blowout loss in the rain, and Chris McCain is dismissed from the team out of the blue. No reason ever given. No interim suspension. No other public disciplinary action taken before this.

If that isn't scapegoating and a sign of coaching desperation and acting emotionally rather than rationally, I don't know what is.

And the Pollyanna morons on this board who defended that? 44, 37, and 49.

Those are the points we have given up in each game since McCain's dismissal. And each game could have been worse, except that the opponent killed the clock at the end of each game.

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Sorry man but I am not jumping on the "poor Chris McCain" train.
Everything I have heard is that he would not take studying seriously, he would not take coaches' comments seriously and he then called out the strength and conditioning coach to a fight during or after practice.

All of those rumors were corroborated from a number of sources. I have no sympathy for such a player. SD is getting rid of the dead wood (players who have a bad attitude or would create dissention within the team.). IMO I would rather had SD clear the dead wood away now during a rebuilding year rather than wait for the rot to set in later.

MilleniaBear;842203159 said:

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Actually...I was thinking maybe cal should have their own "croix de candlestick"- a symbol to be handed out for those who attend and stay to the end of games this year. It's becoming a death march and cal ATO needs to reward the faithful.

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Now that is an idea I can get behind instead of playing "I'm a Believer".

How about at the last home game of the season giving all Cal fans a pin of little gold walking bear with some catchy phrase like:
"Keep the Faith" or "Bear Faithful" or "Hard Core Cal Fan" or "True Blue Bear" or better yet "The Bear Will Not Die"

Cal89;842203053 said:

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If the team feels this way in the slightest, there is apt to be some resentment and frustration, and effort on the field can then be impacted. We might be seeing some of that and why we got a bit of a jolt when Zach entered the game. Not taking away from his ability, what he did out there, but the team seemed more inspired because of the change...

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Teams tend to perform better after a sudden change. Not always, but often. It's a kick in the ass to the entire team. The guys are thinking: "Damn, if Goff is benched my butt might be next!" People need to stop pinning this mythical jolt on Kline's leadership qualities or on some team-wide resentment of Goff being chosen as the starter. I think it has very little to do with Kline and everything to do with the team being shaken up. Taking out the starting QB when he's not injured is a big deal.

dimitrig;842203634 said:

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Teams tend to perform better after a sudden change. Not always, but often. It's a kick in the ass to the entire team. The guys are thinking: "Damn, if Goff is benched my butt might be next!" People need to stop pinning this mythical jolt on Kline's leadership qualities or on some team-wide resentment of Goff being chosen as the starter. I think it has very little to do with Kline and everything to do with the team being shaken up. Taking out the starting QB when he's not injured is a big deal.

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This team is not thinking that "if Goff is benched my butt might be next!" simply because the majority of this team has been benched too. If anything they are thinking, damn, it takes a lot to bench that dude. Goff might not be physically injured, but he's damaged goods upstairs. A QB with compromised confidence is a liability to himself and the team. We all get it though, it ain't about winning now, so no big deal...

southseasbear;842202291 said:

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In general, JC transfers are more successful at Cal than students who enrolled as freshmen: Older, more mature, and the opportunity to avoid the weed-out classes.

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Exactly. Our JC grad rates for football players have been very good for the last 30 years. Somebody bringing up a player under Mike White 4 decades ago? We have had lots of high school players flunk out in the meantime.

Much of the time we are able to bring in California JC players who are fully UC qualified.

BearyWhite;842202686 said:

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Not a foolish question. He has none. That's exactly what upsets him; he thinks he's owed more soap opera stories about what happens in the locker room.

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I also think McCain was thrown under the bus a little rashly after a big road loss. In retrospect, unless there were drugs or violence involved (and I don't think there was, as I think I read that none of this had anything to do with drugs), there probably were 4 or 5 in-between steps that could have been taken instead.

Certainly, the action taken by this regime against McCain has not resulted in improvement in the team on either side of the ball. If he was deadweight or a real detriment, one might have expected to see improvements without his presence, if only baby steps.

So far as I can tell, though, we are getting worse on both sides of the ball with each game

In the end, however, I'm not sure McCain's presence would have done anything for us on the field, anyway. If he is playing defense for us against Oregon State, do we only lose, 42-17 instead of 49-17? Not much of a difference in the long run.

This team has serious execution, preparation, and chemistry problems, and one dismissal isn't enough to address them all.
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What pathetic drivel.

Boot;842204065 said:

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What pathetic drivel.

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Quality comment! Lots of insight and knowledge offered there. :p

Cal88;842202190 said:

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the next recruiting class will be crucial, we will need a lot of JC help

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We need linemen on both sides of the ball. That's the first priority.

KoreAmBear;842205745 said:

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We need linemen on both sides of the ball. That's the first priority.

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You forgot the add as part of that priority -- "and we need to add coaches who can bring out the best in those linemen on both sides of the ball."