...after today's absurd justifications for the game move to Levi's Stadium (c'mon, be like Nelly and admit it "Must Be the Money") she really needs to go. Disingenuous "spin" is the last thing we need from an AD. Cal fans are dubious at best. Feed them a clear line of bull and you've lost them.

To the best of knowledge, Sandy does not have a contract and she can be fired anytime. SANDY SHOULD BE FIRED NNOOWW!!!

My God. I can't stand it.

cmon man give me a break.

Sandy will sell any part of this program that she can. That's how we ended up on The Drive.

The Bureaucrat strikes again.

Do you clowns want the cash to show Dykes the door next year or not?

I don't like the Levi's stadium game but if it really nets Cal a cool $1mil, so be it. Also there's talk that this game will fulfill a requirement that each Pac12 has 3 weekday night games over a 2 year period. If these are in fact the reasons, I can understand it at least and the logic. It's actually a smart move: at least you're getting paid.

Now getting down to brass tacks: who do you guys seriously purpose fill the AD job? Unfortunately Cal has suffered through a bunch of half-wits or old schoolers who didn't want to actually work. Seriously look at the past ADs at Cal: Maggard, Bockrath, Kasser, Gladstone. The best thing you can say about each of these are: Maggard is a Bear and Olympian, Kasser got Haas built, Gladstone hired Tedford, and I think that's about it.

Bockrath of course screwed Cal FB big time. Gladstone worked as the HC for crew and delegated most of the work. Kasser hired Holmoe, almost out of laziness.

Sandy Barbour is by no means perfect but at least she's gotten a few big positives done and had a string of very good hires before Dykes. She hired Monty (tell me that wasn't great), she hired Joanne Boyle, she hired Lindsey Gottlieb and she got facilities.

Yes, the financing is messed up but there's at least time to iron it out. But if anyone here really thought those facilities could be built at Cal in the first place, is lying. I never thought it could be build given all the stuff on campus. So kudos to SB. Also Sonny Dykes still might pan out. I have my doubts but he might surprise everyone.

Can someone please explain how leaving OUR third of a billion dollar stadium empty to play in someone else's billion dollar stadium will make Cal MORE money?

The Santa Clara Stadium Authority will donate all the game's ticket, food and ancillary net revenues to Cal Athletics? Do you really think the shareholders/stakeholders and/or Santa Clara residents who financed and approved this stadium would let this happen? Not a snowball's chance in hell. This kind of thing just doesn't happen in the real world.

If not, then please show exactly how this neutral "home" game Cal in Santa Clara generates so much revenue over a Memorial game that everyone makes out like bandits?

I'm sorry, but this makes NO SENSE WHATSOEVER! And if this somehow does pencil out, why did we renovate Memorial if we could make a cool million playing in someone else's stadium???

Talk about being sold a bill of goods!

BerlinerBaer;842234547 said:

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Do you clowns want the cash to show Dykes the door next year or not?

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How're you going to get cash when tickets end up going for $1?

freshfunk;842234593 said:

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How're you going to get cash when tickets end up going for $1?

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Thank god the ducks will travel well and buy tix.

beelzebear;842234573 said:

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I don't like the Levi's stadium game but if it really nets Cal a cool $1mil, so be it. Also there's talk that this game will fulfill a requirement that each Pac12 has 3 weekday night games over a 2 year period. If these are in fact the reasons, I can understand it at least and the logic. It's actually a smart move: at least you're getting paid.

Now getting down to brass tacks: who do you guys seriously purpose fill the AD job? Unfortunately Cal has suffered through a bunch of half-wits or old schoolers who didn't want to actually work. Seriously look at the past ADs at Cal: Maggard, Bockrath, Kasser, Gladstone. The best thing you can say about each of these are: Maggard is a Bear and Olympian, Kasser got Haas built, Gladstone hired Tedford, and I think that's about it.

Bockrath of course screwed Cal FB big time. Gladstone worked as the HC for crew and delegated most of the work. Kasser hired Holmoe, almost out of laziness.

Sandy Barbour is by no means perfect but at least she's gotten a few big positives done and had a string of very good hires before Dykes. She hired Monty (tell me that wasn't great), she hired Joanne Boyle, she hired Lindsey Gottlieb and she got facilities.

Yes, the financing is messed up but there's at least time to iron it out. But if anyone here really thought those facilities could be built at Cal in the first place, is lying. I never thought it could be build given all the stuff on campus. So kudos to SB. Also Sonny Dykes still might pan out. I have my doubts but he might surprise everyone.

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She didn't get Memorial done. That was all Tedford.

PutYourNameOnIt;842234634 said:

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She didn't get Memorial done. That was all Tedford.

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Damn straight. Without Tedford winning, SB has no input into building facilities. She just happened to be in the AD chair.

socaliganbear;842234597 said:

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Thank god the ducks will travel well and buy tix.

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On a Friday night game?

freshfunk;842234668 said:

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On a Friday night game?

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Absolutely.
The Ducks will bring 30,000 to this, just watch.
Winning does that.

The Bay Area trip is always a favorite, and the stadium is a draw.
Many of their fans already drive 2 hours to home games in Eugene from Portland. Having a full weekend in the bay area will be another draw.
Cal may have trouble getting fans there, and the students aren't showing up nowadays anyway.
If this brings in $1M, good for Cal. If you don't like it, you don't have to pay for it in your season ticket plan. But I'll bet the novelty of the stadium and the opponent will draw ok.
As for the ticket price, my tickets to the game in Eugene this year, (in the driving rain no less)...were face value $90 each from Oregon.
Cal fans are whiners, for sure.

DrDanger;842234706 said:

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Absolutely.
The Ducks will bring 30,000 to this, just watch.
Winning does that.

The Bay Area trip is always a favorite, and the stadium is a draw.
Many of their fans already drive 2 hours to home games in Eugene from Portland. Having a full weekend in the bay area will be another draw.
Cal may have trouble getting fans there, and the students aren't showing up nowadays anyway.
If this brings in $1M, good for Cal. If you don't like it, you don't have to pay for it in your season ticket plan. But I'll bet the novelty of the stadium and the opponent will draw ok.
As for the ticket price, my tickets to the game in Eugene this year, (in the driving rain no less)...were face value $90 each from Oregon.
Cal fans are whiners, for sure.

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If Cal played like Oregon they'd have no problem selling tickets for $90

DrDanger;842234706 said:

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Absolutely.
The Ducks will bring 30,000 to this, just watch.
Winning does that.

The Bay Area trip is always a favorite, and the stadium is a draw.
Many of their fans already drive 2 hours to home games in Eugene from Portland. Having a full weekend in the bay area will be another draw.
Cal may have trouble getting fans there, and the students aren't showing up nowadays anyway.
If this brings in $1M, good for Cal. If you don't like it, you don't have to pay for it in your season ticket plan. But I'll bet the novelty of the stadium and the opponent will draw ok.
As for the ticket price, my tickets to the game in Eugene this year, (in the driving rain no less)...were face value $90 each from Oregon.
Cal fans are whiners, for sure.

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I know Oregon fans travel well. I've been to the games. I just think a Friday night game makes it a bit more difficult for those coming from out of town and work M-F.

DrDanger;842234706 said:

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Absolutely.
The Ducks will bring 30,000 to this, just watch.
Winning does that.

The Bay Area trip is always a favorite, and the stadium is a draw.
Many of their fans already drive 2 hours to home games in Eugene from Portland. Having a full weekend in the bay area will be another draw.
Cal may have trouble getting fans there, and the students aren't showing up nowadays anyway.
If this brings in $1M, good for Cal. If you don't like it, you don't have to pay for it in your season ticket plan. But I'll bet the novelty of the stadium and the opponent will draw ok.
As for the ticket price, my tickets to the game in Eugene this year, (in the driving rain no less)...were face value $90 each from Oregon.
Cal fans are whiners, for sure.

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Exactly how I feel.

And the home slate is still pretty good; Furd, UCLA, UW, BYU,CU...

freshfunk;842234723 said:

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I know Oregon fans travel well. I've been to the games. I just think a Friday night game makes it a bit more difficult for those coming from out of town and work M-F.

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The biggest complaint by all Pac-12 fans the past few years is the 6 and 12 day advance TV game time announcements, and the fact you cannot make plans because of it.

I cancelled my UCLA trip this year because it was announced a week or so in advance it was a night game, and I could not swing it.

This is the only Pac-12 game you can make plans for right now (pto, travel, a weekend getaway to the Bay etc...).
Nobody can complain about that. It's no different than a 49er Monday Night game, you have to take the time and enjoy it. Like I said, Cal fans whine too much. But that stadium will be more full than empty. I wish it was with Cal fans, but it is what it is....

BerlinerBaer;842234547 said:

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Do you clowns want the cash to show Dykes the door next year or not?

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:bravo

PutYourNameOnIt;842234634 said:

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She didn't get Memorial done. That was all the bond market.

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Ftfy

BerlinerBaer;842234547 said:

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Do you clowns want the cash to show Dykes the door next year or not?

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Getting cash to hire a real coach would be great. (We can probably get one for less than Dykes is making.)

But this money will go toward the financial mess she's already created, not hiring a new coach.

beelzebear;842234573 said:

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I don't like the Levi's stadium game but if it really nets Cal a cool $1mil, so be it. Also there's talk that this game will fulfill a requirement that each Pac12 has 3 weekday night games over a 2 year period. If these are in fact the reasons, I can understand it at least and the logic. It's actually a smart move: at least you're getting paid.

Now getting down to brass tacks: who do you guys seriously purpose fill the AD job? Unfortunately Cal has suffered through a bunch of half-wits or old schoolers who didn't want to actually work. Seriously look at the past ADs at Cal: Maggard, Bockrath, Kasser, Gladstone. The best thing you can say about each of these are: Maggard is a Bear and Olympian, Kasser got Haas built, Gladstone hired Tedford, and I think that's about it.

Bockrath of course screwed Cal FB big time. Gladstone worked as the HC for crew and delegated most of the work. Kasser hired Holmoe, almost out of laziness.

Sandy Barbour is by no means perfect but at least she's gotten a few big positives done and had a string of very good hires before Dykes. She hired Monty (tell me that wasn't great), she hired Joanne Boyle, she hired Lindsey Gottlieb and she got facilities.

Yes, the financing is messed up but there's at least time to iron it out. But if anyone here really thought those facilities could be built at Cal in the first place, is lying. I never thought it could be build given all the stuff on campus. So kudos to SB. Also Sonny Dykes still might pan out. I have my doubts but he might surprise everyone.

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She extended JT for massive $ which we had to eat when we fired him. Rugby/baseball fiasco, graduation rate crisis with football, bball and softball, disastrous Dykes hire. More than 3 strikes.

TandemBear;842234584 said:

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Can someone please explain how leaving OUR third of a billion dollar stadium empty to play in someone else's billion dollar stadium will make Cal MORE money?

The Santa Clara Stadium Authority will donate all the game's ticket, food and ancillary net revenues to Cal Athletics? Do you really think the shareholders/stakeholders and/or Santa Clara residents who financed and approved this stadium would let this happen? Not a snowball's chance in hell. This kind of thing just doesn't happen in the real world.

If not, then please show exactly how this neutral "home" game Cal in Santa Clara generates so much revenue over a Memorial game that everyone makes out like bandits?

I'm sorry, but this makes NO SENSE WHATSOEVER! And if this somehow does pencil out, why did we renovate Memorial if we could make a cool million playing in someone else's stadium???

Talk about being sold a bill of goods!

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It's not that hard to figure out. The revenue for that one game will exceed the revenue generated for that same game at Memorial. The ticket prices, at least for non-Cal season ticket holders and students will be higher (starting at $100), so they are going to soak the Duck fans coming. You've got 68.5K seats to work with. I'm guessing TV is paying a pretty penny to get the broadcast of the first college game at the stadium, and I'm sure the 49ers will do fine with parking and concessions to pay Cal more up front. You renovate Memorial because it was long overdue and these types of "nuetral" site games aren't going to the exception, so don't count on them or the payoff.

no matter where it goes (coaches' salaries, debt retirement, etc.). I believe that the figures are accurate from what I've heard.

Plus, the second justification is also real. There were massive complaints from the campus community when we had a weekday night game last year, and most season ticket holders lost their parking spaces for the game as well. Not a pretty picture.

Sandy Barbour has made some serious mistakes and should be held accountable, but some posters just routinely assume (insist) that every statement must be wrong at best or a lie at worst regardless of the facts.

DrDanger;842234737 said:

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The biggest complaint by all Pac-12 fans the past few years is the 6 and 12 day advance TV game time announcements, and the fact you cannot make plans because of it.

I cancelled my UCLA trip this year because it was announced a week or so in advance it was a night game, and I could not swing it.

This is the only Pac-12 game you can make plans for right now (pto, travel, a weekend getaway to the Bay etc...).
Nobody can complain about that. It's no different than a 49er Monday Night game, you have to take the time and enjoy it. Like I said, Cal fans whine too much. But that stadium will be more full than empty. I wish it was with Cal fans, but it is what it is....

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Yes, that means I could make my decision, not to go, yesterday.

UrsaMajor;842234770 said:

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no matter where it goes (coaches' salaries, debt retirement, etc.). I believe that the figures are accurate from what I've heard.

Plus, the second justification is also real. There were massive complaints from the campus community when we had a weekday night game last year, and most season ticket holders lost their parking spaces for the game as well. Not a pretty picture.

Sandy Barbour has made some serious mistakes and should be held accountable, but some posters just routinely assume (insist) that every statement must be wrong at best or a lie at worst regardless of the facts.

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Don't count your chickens before they hatch. It is not a guaranteed million:

"How much money will the game produce for the athletic department?

The unique characteristics of playing the Cal-Oregon game at Levi's Stadium are expected to produce as much as a seven-figure dollar increase in incremental net revenue for the athletic department relative to a home game."

The real money to be made off this deal is the AD soaking season ticket holders for a package with one less P-12 game.