HaasBear04;842318043 said:

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Behold, chief turd fly!

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Hilarious!

:p

OaktownBear;842318294 said:

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Bottom line, if sonnyshiners don't post how great Sonny is or how things aren't his fault, I won't post in rebuttal. But they don't get free reign because they are "positive".

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This


They sound like the same friends and family/boosters that DuhWayne Waker unleashed upon BRO to counter his many critics. Heck, If I was earning the same amount of $ that Barbour/Dykester is I would employ the same strategy.

GoBears58;842318582 said:

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They sound like the same friends and family/boosters that DuhWayne Waker unleashed upon BRO to counter his many critics.

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What?! Was this a real thing?

beeasyed;842318423 said:

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I accept Oregon and Mariota running train on us. that much I know. I'll even give them $C and their dysfunctional offense just b/c of their sheer depth of elite talent. Letting Stanfurd's slow, pro-style offense rack up 60+ was disgusting. As was letting Hundley look like an excellent passer, which he is not.

Last season, it was easier to remember when we didn't get blown out, over when we did. For intents and purposes, Ohio State was a blowout. Yes, I'm not counting the 2nd half moral victory, but the 0-21 1st quarter. Non blowout games: Northwestern, Portland State, and Arizona. Maybe WSU.

All I've ever wanted was to be competitive in every game... Where it doesn't look like we run out of gas in the first half...

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Losing by 22 still counts as a blowout in my book as far as the Wazzu game goes.

StillNoStanfurdium;842318635 said:

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Losing by 22 still counts as a blowout in my book as far as the Wazzu game goes.

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I actually agree, but I was trying to tone down my negativity and my supposed "agenda". So, yeah, that.

NYCGOBEARS;842318331 said:

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Oaktown, there are plenty of people who are extreme on either side. I see you largely as a pragmatist. While Sonny's results thus far make it easy to criticize him (rightfully in many cases), I do think that fair assessment is possible without hysteria and character assassination. This upcoming year will be the litmus test as to whether Sonny has a future at Cal. I truly hope he succeeds. If not, on to the next (who chooses is a different matter). Go Bears!

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+1

hbbear;842318099 said:

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The Pac-10 was not very good at the beginning of JT's tenure.
Look at Sagarin
Teams in top 25
2002 3 of 10
2013 7 of 12 (and 4 of 12 in top-11)

Cal's Schedule difficulty
2002 31
2014 4

Also JT inherited a stocked roster including a senior at QB. Dykes inherited a mess academically and medically on a roster with massive holes (QB, OL, and DB). JT had everything going for him in 2007 and completely destroyed the program in five years. That's pretty incredible. Frankly, I wish the JT era never happened. It's hard to believe we'd be in a worse place right now. It's easy to say JT might have won more games last year but given the circumstances (injuries, monsoons, etc) I think the blowouts would have been WORSE as I think everyone would have quit on him and for good reason. He had no answers and his flaws were obvious to everyone.

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Ridiculous - Tedford won more games than any coach in history and you wish it didn't happen -? Dykes is going to do well, he just needs time - but to rip Tedford is stupid

Tedford was a good coach who had a great system and hired the right assistants at the beginnig. He also lucked out in having Boller and Rodgers early on not to mention a very good OL. The problem was that as time went on he failed to bring in QBs who were capable of deciphering his mamaoth playbook. Boller and Rodgers were able to which allowed Tedford to be successful.

The 2002-2004 OL were quite good. To Tedford's demise was due the Mike Dunbar hire for one year, the Steve Marshall hire, and his Waterloo, Desean Jackson. Jackson was an amazing talent but he was a devisive personality who needed the right type of coach and teammates to keep him in check.

Of course there were cracks with the APR failings and the 2009 class was a complete bust 2010 had lots of potential but fell apart as well.


2009

Mark Brazinski - barely played
Allan Bridgford - barely played
Deandre Coleman - Starter
Vince D'Amato - Starter
Ryan Davis - Don't remember
Steven Fanua - Barely played
Markish Jones - DNQ
Keni Kaufusi - Medical retire
Lucas King - Special Teams
Alex Logan - Medical retire
Jerome Meadows - Not much of an impact
Chris Moncrease - Played some
Jarred Price - 3rd down rush back
Charles Ragland - Forgot what happened
Vachel Samuels - Medical retirement
Brian Schwenke - Quality Starter
Charles Siddoway - Quality Starter for Ole Miss
Isi Sofele - Decent RB
Steve Williams - Very good player
Dasarte Yarnway - Medical retirement.

RaphaelAglietti;842318957 said:

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Tedford was a good coach who had a great system and hired the right assistants at the beginnig. He also lucked out in having Boller and Rodgers early on not to mention a very good OL. The problem was that as time went on he failed to bring in QBs who were capable of deciphering his mamaoth playbook. Boller and Rodgers were able to which allowed Tedford to be successful.

The 2002-2004 OL were quite good. To Tedford's demise was due the Mike Dunbar hire for one year, the Steve Marshall hire, and his Waterloo, Desean Jackson. Jackson was an amazing talent but he was a devisive personality who needed the right type of coach and teammates to keep him in check.

Of course there were cracks with the APR failings and the 2009 class was a complete bust 2010 had lots of potential but fell apart as well.


2009

Mark Brazinski - barely played
Allan Bridgford - barely played
Deandre Coleman - Starter
Vince D'Amato - Starter
Ryan Davis - Don't remember
Steven Fanua - Barely played
Markish Jones - DNQ
Keni Kaufusi - Medical retire
Lucas King - Special Teams
Alex Logan - Medical retire
Jerome Meadows - Not much of an impact
Chris Moncrease - Played some
Jarred Price - 3rd down rush back
Charles Ragland - Forgot what happened
Vachel Samuels - Medical retirement
Brian Schwenke - Quality Starter
Charles Siddoway - Quality Starter for Ole Miss
Isi Sofele - Decent RB
Steve Williams - Very good player
Dasarte Yarnway - Medical retirement.

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correction #29 DB Vachel Samuels he did not medically retire he had some personal stuff to clean up ( tedford put him off team ?? maybe no confrim.. ) and apparently did that quite well enough plus walking into sonnys office no appt and low and behold his is back to team hats off to him getting it right and the proactive move ... really wanted to come back and be CAL BEAR

http://www.calbears.com/ViewArticle.dbml?DB_OEM_ID=30100&ATCLID=207869965

KevBear;842318629 said:

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What?! Was this a real thing?

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yes, and they suddenly disappeared after DuhWayne was fired.


I expect the "chief turd" and his band of jolly sonny pumpers to disappear in the same fashion.