USA - Portugal

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Cal88
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This is a HUGE game, which deserves its own thread! Not entirely OT either, it's the national team for chrissakes, so soccer haters lay off!

Portugal needs to win this game, [U]badly[/U], after having gotten thrashed 4-0 by Germany, they're going to lose the tie-breakers on goal differentials vs the US if they tie today and beat Ghana by a small margin (even this is not a given). The US would definitely qualify with two ties, or even possibly with one tie and a close loss (unless Ghana crushes Portugal, not likely).

I think the US has a good chance today, Portugal is very talented, but it's an undisciplined team playing without many key starters (Pepe, Coentrao, Almeda), and Ronaldo not 100%. The game is in steamy Manaus (Portugal's weather is very similar to coastal California's, warm and dry with cool eves, not hot and steamy like it gets all summer in the eastern half of the US).

Ronaldo is outstanding, but he does most of his damage when he has some space and at high pace, unlike Messi he doesn't create his own goals by beating a handful of opponents in tight spaces. I don't think he's going to get that space tonight...

Also, mentally, Ronaldo is not all that football smart, unlike say Suarez (arguably the best player in the world right now) who is a cunning genius and works brilliantly with his teammates, often unselfishly. Though he's gotten a lot better in this field in recent years, CR might still try to take the game upon his shoulders and in the process squander a lot of chances for his team and become increasingly frustrated. He and his team carry the weight of their country and huge expectations, while the US is an underdog (see Costa Rica).

Messi's win yesterday has an impact on today's game. There is a huge personal rivalry between Ronaldo and Messi, it seems like CR, who has a huge ego, is always chasing Messi. I feel that Ronaldo is going to try to win the game all by himself, just like Messi did. He's not as good as Messi though in beating several opponents in close spaces, he needs more space to work his magic, and he's not going to get much of that tonight.

If Klinsi's boys manage to avoid conceding an early goal, the US will be in good shape. If Portugal manages to score in the first half though, all bets are off, Ronaldo on counters and a confident Portuguese team are going to be hard to overcome.

The US needs to play a very disciplined game, disrupting buildups and closing down spaces, a bit like Iran did yesterday. Play for the draw, that actually is a good way to end up with the win in the later stages of the game. If the ref calls a tight game, with early yellows, it will benefit the US, Portugal could easily play a man down.

Go USA!!!
93gobears
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Beware Ronaldo fanboys.
93gobears
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Points in Group G.

Germany 4 points, one game to go, goals for 6
US 3 points, two games to go, goals for 2
Ghana 1 point, one game to go, goals for 3
Portugal 0 points, 2 games to go, goals for 0

Portugal is desperate.
SonOfCalVa
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I'm a soccer newbie (haven't watched for a long time) but the pace of the game is great and it doesn't take long (with announcers' assistance) to pick up on strategy.
It's entertaining watching continuous play in contrast to TV/timeout/fake injuries/etc. interrupted play.
89Bear
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93gobears;842327093 said:

Points in Group G.

Germany 4 points, one game to go, goals for 6
US 3 points, two games to go, goals for 2
Ghana 1 point, one game to go, goals for 3
Portugal 0 points, 2 games to go, goals for 0

Portugal is desperate.


So were England and Spain:p
cubzwin
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I wonder if the crowd will be pro Portugal? Former colony, same language, plus anti-US sentiment. Could give Portugal a boost.
bearsandgiants
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cubzwin;842327124 said:

I wonder if the crowd will be pro Portugal? Former colony, same language, plus anti-US sentiment. Could give Portugal a boost.


We're lucky in that we have sucked so bad for so long, that we're kind of an underdog people pull for, despite the political stuff. What a day for sports. What a day at Wrigley! Go USA
concernedparent
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SonOfCalVa;842327096 said:

I'm a soccer newbie (haven't watched for a long time) but the pace of the game is great and it doesn't take long (with announcers' assistance) to pick up on strategy.
It's entertaining watching continuous play in contrast to TV/timeout/fake injuries/etc. interrupted play.


Wait, we talking about the same sport?
beelzebear
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cubzwin;842327124 said:

I wonder if the crowd will be pro Portugal? Former colony, same language, plus anti-US sentiment. Could give Portugal a boost.


NYT: Brazil's Other Team, or So Portugal Hopes - World Cup 2014: Portugal's Team Stirs Ambivalence in Brazil
heartofthebear
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What is game time for US vs. Portugal?
EchoOfSilence
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3 pm PT
heartofthebear
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EchoOfSilence;842327146 said:

3 pm PT


Thanks
KoreAmBear
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I.
I believe.
I believe that.
I believe that we.
I believe that we will win.
I believe that we will win!
I believe that we WILL win!

Go Nats!
Cal88
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Off to watch the game, Let's go USA!
KoreAmBear
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Cal88;842327178 said:

Off to watch the game, Let's go USA!


Yup will check back in a halftime. Zusi as an attacking mid. 4-2-3-1 lineup. Go Nats! One Nation, One Team, One Bearinsider LOL.

Johnson-Cameron-Besler-Beasley

Jones-Beckerman

Bedoya-Bradley-Zusi

Deuce
93gobears
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Portugal is fighting for their life.
bearsandgiants
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What an egg we're laying. How did we win the last game? We look like an under 12 team out there. Wasted lead pass opportunity and then a half assed defensive effort in the box? Wtf? There are college kids that can do better than that. And you can tell Portugal actually cares about their country's image. So much emotion on their side.
TheBearsHaveWon
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Under five mins. Are you freaking kidding me???
bearsandgiants
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Didn't they say we lead the world in goals allowed in the first 5? No passion. Not taking this seriously. No focus. We always give one up before we wake up and start playing. Need to hope for a draw I guess.
liverflukes
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Portugal is 11-0 when they score the first goal. :rollinglaugh:
TheBearsHaveWon
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Liver
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Period of time, is that for all games, friendlies, qualifiers?
Who last came back on them?
Thx
liverflukes
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TheBearsHaveWon
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Thx. All time WC record.
So we have a chance to see history be made.
OldBlue1999
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Furd didn't send any cooling gloves to the US team? Commie bastards.
Phantomfan
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That was an ugly goal.

We came up with a huge save after the post saved the goal.

Hopefully we don't get as ugly as England did in the last 20 minutes or so.
TheBearsHaveWon
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Howard came up huge on that save.
sycasey
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The US has actually looked pretty good outside of one horrible mistake to give up the goal. But that's soccer -- you can play better for most of the match and lose anyway.

Hope we can make something happen in the next match.
TheBearsHaveWon
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Are you freaking kidding me???
Bradley, damn.
TheBearsHaveWon
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Goooooooooooaaaaaaaaaaaalllllllllll!!!!!!!
Jones bends it around Beto. Keeper had no chance.
liverflukes
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:woohoo:bravo:bravo:bravo:bravo:bravo:bravo:bravo:bravo
okaydo
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What a cracker from him.
Phantomfan
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Oh good. We're at the stage of the game where Portugal starts cheating.
Phantomfan
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sycasey;842327208 said:

The US has actually looked pretty good outside of one horrible mistake to give up the goal. But that's soccer -- you can play better for most of the match and lose anyway.

Hope we can make something happen in the next match.


Except the sudden inability to clear the ball well they have played alright
TheBearsHaveWon
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Gooooooooooooaaaaaaaaaallllllllll!!!!!!!
liverflukes
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:rollinglaugh::woohoo:rollinglaugh:
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