New CAL commit LB/DL Luc Bequette
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Last: 10 yr ago by SonOfCalVa
LocoOso;842339090 said:
Some offer list...
With Army and Air Force on the list, he must be a strong student at least.
after looking at his tape.. im curious about the comp that he is plaing againist but to be 62 290 and moving like that ... grades check .. sign him up he has motor .. looks very good at C also
Not a linebacker-defensive tackle.
DCW67MSW;842339102 said:
Not a linebacker-defensive tackle.
?
Nice motor
Needs work on technique
Needs work on technique
DCW67MSW;842339102 said:
Not a linebacker-defensive tackle.
Yeah, he's listed as a D player. Nice size and good speed ... plays nasty but clean.
uh, he's just becoming a HS senior and played O and D.
Kaufman, Tate and S&C will take care of business but they won't have to teach speed.
Kaufman, Tate and S&C will take care of business but they won't have to teach speed.
Here's Bequette's commitment story with junior highlights: http://bearinsider.com/news/story.php?article=1145
He's certainly got the size, strength, athleticism and bloodlines to be good being the son of a former world champion and olympian as well as a starting SEC OL, not to mention cousin of an NFL DE and nephew and grandson of two other former razorbacks.
He wrestles and plays baseball, too. He feels like he's poised to take a run at a state championship in wrestling this year.
He's certainly got the size, strength, athleticism and bloodlines to be good being the son of a former world champion and olympian as well as a starting SEC OL, not to mention cousin of an NFL DE and nephew and grandson of two other former razorbacks.
He wrestles and plays baseball, too. He feels like he's poised to take a run at a state championship in wrestling this year.
His mother, Olympic figure skater Debi Thomas, had very nice legs.
another wrestler ... cool
if the razorbacks offer him any chances ....?
he's an athlete. apparently multiple high schools. sticking with one position will help. He's got "measurables". If he bombs next year as a senior, this staff has recruited over guys before (remember the DE from TX last year)
shoot worse comes to worse he can long snap
shoot worse comes to worse he can long snap
Interesting he is son of Debi Thomas
She grew up in SJ and went to Stanford
She was the favorite to win gold but ended up with bronze
Many people felt she chocked which is ridiculous
I read the day after the Olympics she hung up her skates and focused on medical school
She grew up in SJ and went to Stanford
She was the favorite to win gold but ended up with bronze
Many people felt she chocked which is ridiculous
I read the day after the Olympics she hung up her skates and focused on medical school
Total Pet Peeve.
Bloodlines mean absolutely nothing. We've had 17-18 years to watch see what these kids can do. Bequette is a stud in his own right or he's not. He's got a motor or he doesn't. Who the flip cares who the parents are. Can we get any lazier in our analysis?
Bloodlines mean absolutely nothing. We've had 17-18 years to watch see what these kids can do. Bequette is a stud in his own right or he's not. He's got a motor or he doesn't. Who the flip cares who the parents are. Can we get any lazier in our analysis?
Great write-up, MB, and illustrated with an impressive photo.
You've got a whole story full of reasons besides bloodlines, starting with near 5.0 forty speed, 28 inch vertical and strong wrestling skills.
Who wouldn't be interested in the fact that he has a world champion and olympic athlete mother and former SEC lineman father and a cousin in the NFL? Doesn't guarantee him stardom but it's sure a relevant point of interest when tied in with everything else. And there are countless examples of bloodline often meaning far more than "absolutely nothing." Seems a little cynical.
Who wouldn't be interested in the fact that he has a world champion and olympic athlete mother and former SEC lineman father and a cousin in the NFL? Doesn't guarantee him stardom but it's sure a relevant point of interest when tied in with everything else. And there are countless examples of bloodline often meaning far more than "absolutely nothing." Seems a little cynical.
Gunga la Gunga;842339143 said:
Total Pet Peeve.
Bloodlines mean absolutely nothing. We've had 17-18 years to watch see what these kids can do. Bequette is a stud in his own right or he's not. He's got a motor or he doesn't. Who the flip cares who the parents are. Can we get any lazier in our analysis?
BS! Tell that to horse and dog breeders. There is no guarantee that the offspring will come close let alone surpass their parents but they have a better chance than being the offspring of Ma & Pa Kettle.
Woah, crazy that his mom is Debi Thomas. My sister knew her well as they shared a skating coach.
MoragaBear;842339148 said:
You've got a whole story full of reasons besides bloodlines, starting with near 5.0 forty speed, 28 inch vertical and strong wrestling skills.
Who wouldn't be interested in the fact that he has a world champion and olympic athlete mother and former SEC lineman father and a cousin in the NFL? Doesn't guarantee him stardom but it's sure a relevant point of interest when tied in with everything else. And there are countless examples of bloodline often meaning far more than "absolutely nothing." Seems a little cynical.
IMO the question of "bloodlines" as a physical thing means very little other than often "big parents breed big children".
What is more important is that professional and Olympic athletes know how much hard work it takes to succeed. They can teach that to their kids.
My father was the starting tailback on his high school football (strong program in IL), starting point guard on his hs hoops team and earned a track scholarship at the University of Illinois.
I did pretty well athletically (especially early in sports) but wasn't a Big 10 scholarship-worthy athlete. My wife ran track and was the captain of her high school volleyball team before coming to Cal.
Our kids are all less athletically-inclined than we were so we're a case-study in how athletic ability isn't always genetically passed on. I have former classmates that I was a much better athlete than that have kids that do really well in sports.
But in cases like Bequette's, where you have a world champion athlete mother, a father, grandfather, cousin and uncle that all played SEC football and the athlete is 6-2/290 with the athleticism that Bequette possesses, even if he's somewhat raw at this point, I'd strongly suggest this is not a genetic fluke.
Without genetic intervention, the odds of so many from the same family being high BCS football athletes has to be infinitely small.
I did pretty well athletically (especially early in sports) but wasn't a Big 10 scholarship-worthy athlete. My wife ran track and was the captain of her high school volleyball team before coming to Cal.
Our kids are all less athletically-inclined than we were so we're a case-study in how athletic ability isn't always genetically passed on. I have former classmates that I was a much better athlete than that have kids that do really well in sports.
But in cases like Bequette's, where you have a world champion athlete mother, a father, grandfather, cousin and uncle that all played SEC football and the athlete is 6-2/290 with the athleticism that Bequette possesses, even if he's somewhat raw at this point, I'd strongly suggest this is not a genetic fluke.
Without genetic intervention, the odds of so many from the same family being high BCS football athletes has to be infinitely small.
It's also worth nothing that his dad is a sports lawyer and his mom is an orthopedic surgeon. Would expect he inherited some pretty good brain power. Guessing they've taught him the importance of education as well.
Nature and nurture in action. Go Bears!
Actually, his father's an investment advisor, primarily for athletes and coaches.
MoragaBear;842339166 said:
Actually, his father's an investment advisor, primarily for athletes and coaches.
Read an article earlier that said he was a sports lawyer. I guess at some point he switched over to investment advisory services.
http://espn.go.com/skating/news/2000/0209/345701.html
Yeah, that story was from 15 years ago. Apparently he's made the transition since then.
bar20;842339154 said:
BS! Tell that to horse and dog breeders. There is no guarantee that the offspring will come close let alone surpass their parents but they have a better chance than being the offspring of Ma & Pa Kettle.
I think the point was, by the time a 17 yr old has established himself as an athletic, Div I prospect, it NO LONGER matters about his bloodlines. Sure, if you took two guys at birth, one has two outstanding athletes as parents, the other has Ma and Pa Kettle, you'd bet the former will end up having more athletic ability.
Most 17 year olds are far from their peak. Many athletes with great athletic pedigree have a much higher ceiling in their development. No guarantees but all things being equal, I'd much rather have that pedigree than not.
Beyond that, it will be interesting to see how he develops. Kaufman obviously likes him a lot after flying to Little Rock to see him practice then seeing him at camp at Cal before offering.
There are no guarantees that even highly-rated athletes will be a success but he's in a category with a number of other recent Cal commits that for whatever reasons are somewhat off the radar but that Cal feels worthy of an early (not late, desperation) offer. Will be really interesting to see how he develops and what kind of eye for talent Kaufman and the rest of the staff have in the end. A lot is riding on their judgment.
Beyond that, it will be interesting to see how he develops. Kaufman obviously likes him a lot after flying to Little Rock to see him practice then seeing him at camp at Cal before offering.
There are no guarantees that even highly-rated athletes will be a success but he's in a category with a number of other recent Cal commits that for whatever reasons are somewhat off the radar but that Cal feels worthy of an early (not late, desperation) offer. Will be really interesting to see how he develops and what kind of eye for talent Kaufman and the rest of the staff have in the end. A lot is riding on their judgment.
MoragaBear;842339184 said:
Most 17 year olds are far from their peak. Many athletes with great athletic pedigree have a much higher ceiling in their development. No guarantees but all things being equal, I'd much rather have that pedigree than not.
Beyond that, it will be interesting to see how he develops. Kaufman obviously likes him a lot after flying to Little Rock to see him practice then seeing him at camp at Cal before offering.
There are no guarantees that even highly-rated athletes will be a success but he's in a category with a number of other recent Cal commits that for whatever reasons are somewhat off the radar but that Cal feels worthy of an early (not late, desperation) offer. Will be really interesting to see how he develops and what kind of eye for talent Kaufman and the rest of the staff have in the end. A lot is riding on their judgment.
Yes, I think everyone would agree with that. But I think the comparison being made is preferring an already-proven talent like DT Jacob Daniel out of Fresno, than another "potential" guy with a strong athletics heritage.
Also, with Cal playing second (or third or forth) fiddle to just about every other DT, and most sought-after DEs, I don't think we're in a position to slow play anyone. And while I wouldn't say we are desperate, but we are mining the hell out of these "underrated" guys. We're probably taking more risks (extension of offers; acceptance of transfers) in this unit than any other.
Yup, that's why I said a lot's riding on their talent evals, especially on the DL.
going4roses;842339099 said:
after looking at his tape.. im curious about the comp that he is plaing againist but to be 62 290 and moving like that ... grades check .. sign him up he has motor .. looks very good at C also
Keeps his feet. Low tail. Good reaction off the line. Keeps his feet. Runs well. Looks way lighter than 290. Tough/keeps after it. Did I mention that he keeps his feet?
Welcome, Luc! You made a great decision. Looking forward to seeing you suit up for the Bears, and best wishes in your studies at the greatest public university in the world!
beeasyed;842339257 said:
i don't magically expect 5*'s to come aboard; i only brought up Daniels to explain the comparison btwn. "good bloodlines" vs. proven talent.
i'm more concerned about the numerous "under the radar" guys we've offered for months now, like Josh Kania, or Matt Snyder (San Ramon), who do not seem overly enthused about their biggest offer. nobody wants to jump on a schollie offer from Cal? it's getting hard to beat out Idaho and the rest of the scrub schools... even Bequette said he wanted to jump on the schollie before Cal ran out of space.
Actually Kania has almost already committed to us... He is extremely high on Cal and loved it here. He wants to come back for a game and see what is like when we are playing and the game atmosphere. I think I heard he may be coming for the Sept 6th game against Sac State and I wouldn't be shocked if he committed then.
As for the knock of people saying "Oh all Cal recruits are under the radar, we are the king of under the radar, or whatever thing people are trying to say" .... Look at the facts...
How many 5 star athletes have ever committed to a team coming off a 1-11 and 4-20 record the last 2 years? If you find any my guess would be that they were legacy players in most cases.
Also look at the staffs track record... Last year for example they offered 1. Luke Rubenzer offered and committed before he went out and blew up the elite 11, had a monster SR year, won AZ state championship, won AZ player of the year, and was offered by big time schools like UCLA... 2. Tre Watson offered and committed before he went out and put up a monster SR year while getting offers from other good programs like UCLA and Washington... 3. Vic Enwere offered and committed before he showed more of his power running style as the top back on his team. Many teams came after him after we went in like Michigan, Michigan State, and Wisconsin... 4. Jeremy Winchester offered and committed before not improving as the coaches expected to and later mutually agreed to go their own ways.
This shows that they found good talent "under the radar" types that blew up... They missed on some and they moved on from them. To say they haven't been good at finding talent before other programs is wrong.
jamonit;842339267 said:
Actually Kania has almost already committed to us... He is extremely high on Cal and loved it here. He wants to come back for a game and see what is like when we are playing and the game atmosphere. I think I heard he may be coming for the Sept 6th game against Sac State and I wouldn't be shocked if he committed then.
As for the knock of people saying "Oh all Cal recruits are under the radar, we are the king of under the radar, or whatever thing people are trying to say" .... Look at the facts...
How many 5 star athletes have ever committed to a team coming off a 1-11 and 4-20 record the last 2 years? If you find any my guess would be that they were legacy players in most cases.
Also look at the staffs track record... Last year for example they offered 1. Luke Rubenzer offered and committed before he went out and blew up the elite 11, had a monster SR year, won AZ state championship, won AZ player of the year, and was offered by big time schools like UCLA... 2. Tre Watson offered and committed before he went out and put up a monster SR year while getting offers from other good programs like UCLA and Washington... 3. Vic Enwere offered and committed before he showed more of his power running style as the top back on his team. Many teams came after him after we went in like Michigan, Michigan State, and Wisconsin... 4. Jeremy Winchester offered and committed before not improving as the coaches expected to and later mutually agreed to go their own ways.
This shows that they found good talent "under the radar" types that blew up... They missed on some and they moved on from them. To say they haven't been good at finding talent before other programs is wrong.
good point...
MoragaBear;842339123 said:
Here's Bequette's commitment story with junior highlights: http://bearinsider.com/news/story.php?article=1145
He's certainly got the size, strength, athleticism and bloodlines to be good being the son of a former world champion and olympian as well as a starting SEC OL, not to mention cousin of an NFL DE and nephew and grandson of two other former razorbacks.
He wrestles and plays baseball, too. He feels like he's poised to take a run at a state championship in wrestling this year.
He wrastles? Jacob Waasdorp anyone?
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