I have come to the conclusion that Cal simply cannot have nice things. The collective self esteem of the football program as an entity won't allow it.

And the two largest groups of alums to blame are those under 35 years old and those over 65. I'm convinced now that those students who went to school in the JT years have a warped sense of quick-fix entitlement. And, those over the age of 65 are simply staring to closely at their own mortality and can't afford to allow Cal to build a long term program. They need some lucky strike of lightning to hit and get a Rose Bowl before they die.

Perhaps those of us that went to school in the 70's, 80's, and 90's can afford to watch a true "program" be built the right way with high GPA student athletes, exciting play, and a Bear-will-never-quit attitude. We can afford to watch, and can enjoy to watch, the process of a program being built unfold before our eyes. That is what is happening at Cal now.

But I fear there are too many young people and near-the-grave old Bears that won't allow this to happen. It's too bad ... Cal was finally heading in the right direction - just in time for you guys, and alums that influence the administration, to begin to tear it down.

Yep. It's your fault. Time to go look in the mirror and say to yourself "it's my fault Cal can't have nice things".


Thanks a lot guys....

Ah yes. When in doubt, blame the young and the old.

No. There is no doubt here.

Hey, I'm one of the middle guys who went through 5 non-winning seasons as a student, who was greatly appreciative of this year's winning season.

But it seems to me that Dykes wanting to leave was a foregone conclusion.

He wanted out, and has always wanted out.

Oct. 12: The Associated Press reported that Dykes was seeking other jobs at the end of last season.
http://www.californiagoldenblogs.com/2015/10/13/9528147/usc-trojans-coaching-search-sonny-dykes-california-golden-bears-contract-extension


Nov. 1: The day after the USC game -- our 3rd loss in a row. It had been a month (Oct. 3) since our last victory, when a USA Today reporter revealed that Dykes "wants out."
http://www.californiagoldenblogs.com/2015/11/1/9655868/sonny-dykes-california-golden-bears-coaching-rumors


Nov. 16: With Cal bowl eligible, Mike Williams says of Sonny: "He's my guy."
http://www.insidebayarea.com/breaking-news/ci_29124455/cal-ad-williams-say-he-wants-dykes-return

I think Cal, having learned from the past, did what it reasonsably had to do -- see how this season turned out. You can't give a guy a raise based solely on a 5-0 start.

txwharfrat;842606860 said:

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I have come to the conclusion that Cal simply cannot have nice things. The collective self esteem of the football program as an entity won't allow it.

And the two largest groups of alums to blame are those under 35 years old and those over 65. I'm convinced now that those students who went to school in the JT years have a warped sense of quick-fix entitlement. And, those over the age of 65 are simply staring to closely at their own mortality and can't afford to allow Cal to build a long term program. They need some lucky strike of lightning to hit and get a Rose Bowl before they die.

Perhaps those of us that went to school in the 70's, 80's, and 90's can afford to watch a true "program" be built the right way with high GPA student athletes, exciting play, and a Bear-will-never-quit attitude. We can afford to watch, and can enjoy to watch, the process of a program being built unfold before our eyes. That is what is happening at Cal now.

But I fear there are too many young people and near-the-grave old Bears that won't allow this to happen. It's too bad ... Cal was finally heading in the right direction - just in time for you guys, and alums that influence the administration, to begin to tear it down.

Yep. It's your fault. Time to go look in the mirror and say to yourself "it's my fault Cal can't have nice things".


Thanks a lot guys....

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Any "fault" here lies with Dykes. He is the one who wants to leave. He is the one who fielded historically bad defenses. He is the one who implemented the vertical sets blocking scheme that failed. He is the one who hired Buh and Yenser. He is the one who doesn't like the Bay Area.

Personally, I would be shocked if Missouri hires him away. Based on what? Dykes has earned nothing more than to try another year or two to show that he can build something substantial here. I think he feels the team will take a step back in year 4 and then his window will close here and elsewhere. That is also the fault of Dykes.

I went to Cal in the 90s.

There's nobody to blame. We just need to thank Dykes. First, for getting the academics in order. Second for bringing some modest level of football success back. And third, for leaving (Dykes is doing us a favor by leaving now - we don't have to see the football regress or get stuck with an unfavorable extension).

Dykes is like the girlfriend you know isn't the one, but who is just good enough to keep around. Cal is the guy who doesn't have the stones to break up with her himself and is afraid to be alone, so he strings it along until she gets fed up enough to break up with him (then acts like a hurt victim).

My favorite coach and teams were the Ray Wilsey era.
Win or lose, post-game, the band was under the balcony (We want Ray), then Wilsey on the balcony, bringing with him a player for recognition ... middling success during a very turbulent, vocal anti-football, anti-"establishment" era that started in Berkeley and spread, with furd, of course, half-assed lagging.

Players (often undersized) gave it all on mostly warm, sunny afternoons when all games started at 12:30 and had more success than people expected. Players graduated and some stepped into the pros and did well. Pre-game, the game, post-game were a continuity of Cal football.

Wilsey was a great guy and a great coach - because it was more about the team than the coach and there was no insane lust or demands for meaningless bowl games because they didn't exist.

Fans of the Wilsey era (few) enjoyed the entire Saturday experience, and they enjoyed even "moral" victories because the team never quit or died; upsets were a joy and they happened. To enjoy Cal football, one had to attend the games. No TV, especially no TV timeouts for commercials. The only music in the stadium was from the Great Cal Band.

Fans now seem to bleed envy-green for programs that cheat and cut corners, pretend-semipro teams ... bleh.
Guys like Lupoi are loved, until they screw their schools. [SIZE=1]student[/SIZE]-ATHLETES are the cannon fodder that feed the new fans and they love coaches who win (for a while), ignoring the totality of academic and athletic performance.

The Rose Bowl as it was, Big 10 vs Pac whatever, is DEAD. It died before the Old Blues.
It's still game by game, and people have to make their own enjoyment from the Cal experience, win or lose.
But, it's just a game and much pity for those who wrap their lives around a game.

tequila4kapp;842606880 said:

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There's nobody to blame. We just need to thank Dykes. First, for getting the academics in order. Second for bringing some modest level of football success back. And third, ...

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Should have stopped at a solid two ... the rest is speculation and BS, regardless of future events, or non-events.

I'm 44 so it's not my fault. Whew.

SonOfCalVa;842606884 said:

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Should have stopped at a solid two ... the rest is speculation and BS, regardless of future events, or non-events.

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Grumpy this morning?

SonOfCalVa - I must agree with your post and the Wilsey era which I also shared in. Fun games in beautiful Memorial Stadium when you could still drink beer and throw stuff. Expectations were based on "hope"..and Cal traditions admired. To the OP, I "blame" the NFL - whose lure and greed take our Cal football players away from once was a wonderful college experience and desire to graduate, to a more important focus - to make million$...

The original post was good news/bad news for me. The good news is I am currently in the blameless category. The bad news is that in 5 years I am not only to blame but I am "near the grave."

tequila4kapp;842606880 said:

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There's nobody to blame. We just need to thank Dykes. First, for getting the academics in order. Second for bringing some modest level of football success back. And third, for leaving (Dykes is doing us a favor by leaving now - we don't have to see the football regress or get stuck with an unfavorable extension).

Dykes is like the girlfriend you know isn't the one, but who is just good enough to keep around. Cal is the guy who doesn't have the stones to break up with her himself and is afraid to be alone, so he strings it along until she gets fed up enough to break up with him (then acts like a hurt victim).

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That's why we need to look for a gay coach.

bar20;842606895 said:

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That's why we need to look for a gay coach.

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Good one!

Yes... I will so longingly look back to the days of "we lost, but we only lost by 10-15 points which is respectable losing."

Sonny's surrender monkey act against Stanford makes sense now as he clearly didnt want to risk a potental blemish on his resume, rather than you know, taking risks to try and win.

tequila4kapp;842606891 said:

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Grumpy this morning?

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Not a bit ... sunny and almost warm ... beautiful day with some fall color still on trees.

SonOfCalVa;842606900 said:

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Not a bit ... sunny and almost warm ... beautiful day with some fall color still on trees.

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I was at Cal starting with the end of the Kapp era. The Wilsey years sound great. Sadly those days are gone forever. We've got to accept it and get with the modern program. If we don't we will get all the crappiness that comes with commercialism of the current game and college football being the NFL's minor league system...and have terrible teams.

SonOfCalVa;842606884 said:

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Should have stopped at a solid two ... the rest is speculation and BS, regardless of future events, or non-events.

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This is correct.

SonOfCalVa;842606881 said:

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My favorite coach and teams were the Ray Wilsey era.
Win or lose, post-game, the band was under the balcony (We want Ray), then Wilsey on the balcony, bringing with him a player for recognition ... middling success during a very turbulent, vocal anti-football, anti-"establishment" era that started in Berkeley and spread, with furd, of course, half-assed lagging.

Players (often undersized) gave it all on mostly warm, sunny afternoons when all games started at 12:30 and had more success than people expected. Players graduated and some stepped into the pros and did well. Pre-game, the game, post-game were a continuity of Cal football.

Wilsey was a great guy and a great coach - because it was more about the team than the coach and there was no insane lust or demands for meaningless bowl games because they didn't exist.

Fans of the Wilsey era (few) enjoyed the entire Saturday experience, and they enjoyed even "moral" victories because the team never quit or died; upsets were a joy and they happened. To enjoy Cal football, one had to attend the games. No TV, especially no TV timeouts for commercials. The only music in the stadium was from the Great Cal Band.

Fans now seem to bleed envy-green for programs that cheat and cut corners, pretend-semipro teams ... bleh.
Guys like Lupoi are loved, until they screw their schools. [SIZE=1]student[/SIZE]-ATHLETES are the cannon fodder that feed the new fans and they love coaches who win (for a while), ignoring the totality of academic and athletic performance.

The Rose Bowl as it was, Big 10 vs Pac whatever, is DEAD. It died before the Old Blues.
It's still game by game, and people have to make their own enjoyment from the Cal experience, win or lose.
But, it's just a game and much pity for those who wrap their lives around a game.

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I agree. But, I also actually like this team. They never give up and put forth the effort - even when out-manned. I like the direction the program is going and am happier with what Dykes is doing say more than Leach at WSU. I like the direction of the academics and the direction of the toughness and competitiveness of the program. The fan base and administration not showing Dykes the love is the root cause here. I still hope he stays and that he continues to build in the direction he is going.

I'm happier now with Cal football more than I have been since very early January 2012...

G

txwharfrat;842606860 said:

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I have come to the conclusion that Cal simply cannot have nice things. The collective self esteem of the football program as an entity won't allow it.

And the two largest groups of alums to blame are those under 35 years old and those over 65. I'm convinced now that those students who went to school in the JT years have a warped sense of quick-fix entitlement. And, those over the age of 65 are simply staring to closely at their own mortality and can't afford to allow Cal to build a long term program. They need some lucky strike of lightning to hit and get a Rose Bowl before they die.

Perhaps those of us that went to school in the 70's, 80's, and 90's can afford to watch a true "program" be built the right way with high GPA student athletes, exciting play, and a Bear-will-never-quit attitude. We can afford to watch, and can enjoy to watch, the process of a program being built unfold before our eyes. That is what is happening at Cal now.

But I fear there are too many young people and near-the-grave old Bears that won't allow this to happen. It's too bad ... Cal was finally heading in the right direction - just in time for you guys, and alums that influence the administration, to begin to tear it down.

Yep. It's your fault. Time to go look in the mirror and say to yourself "it's my fault Cal can't have nice things".


Thanks a lot guys....

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Guilty as charged. I would dearly love to see the Cal band march down Colorado Blvd. before I go, so in that sense guilty, guilty, guilty. Regardless, I would never exchange it for not doing it the right way. I have liked, and still like the academic improvements, the apparent team synergy, the on field improvement, and yes, Sonny Dykes' efforts.

None of that has changed one iota since I entered Cal in the fall of '59. What has changed is that I have gotten older. Funny how that just creeps up on you. So all of you from that "safe" group from 35-65, life is ticking away. Not much else changes, maybe excepting your conjoining seniors & millenials----OMG on that. Time marches on txwharfrat, beware. Won't be here to look in on your Cal fandome in 20-30 years, but I wonder out loud now..........

OdontoBear66;842606919 said:

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G

Guilty as charged. I would dearly love to see the Cal band march down Colorado Blvd. before I go, so in that sense guilty, guilty, guilty. Regardless, I would never exchange it for not doing it the right way. I have liked, and still like the academic improvements, the apparent team synergy, the on field improvement, and yes, Sonny Dykes' efforts.

None of that has changed one iota since I entered Cal in the fall of '59. What has changed is that I have gotten older. Funny how that just creeps up on you. So all of you from that "safe" group from 35-65, life is ticking away. Not much else changes, maybe excepting your conjoining seniors & millenials----OMG on that. Time marches on txwharfrat, beware. Won't be here to look in on your Cal fandome in 20-30 years, but I wonder out loud now..........

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I know I know. I just want to see a long term program built over an extended period of time. I will be wondering like my father (age 84) when the Rose Bowl will come. I sense it is likely too late for him. My brother is 60 and I'm 52 - both Cal alums. The bell may ring for us with no Rose Bowl either...

But I do want to enjoy watching a team that never gives us, fights on, wins more than it loses, and does things the right way. I vote to give Sonny a competitive salary and extension to see how far he can take this program doing things the right way.

72CalBear;842606892 said:

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SonOfCalVa - I must agree with your post and the Wilsey era which I also shared in. Fun games in beautiful Memorial Stadium when you could still drink beer and throw stuff. Expectations were based on "hope"..and Cal traditions admired. To the OP, I "blame" the NFL - whose lure and greed take our Cal football players away from once was a wonderful college experience and desire to graduate, to a more important focus - to make million$...

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Newer Cal fans are denied the experiences we had ... and those were the days when Kezar was also fun, with few expectations as the 49ers were a diversionary amusement.

Today, if I were still there (enjoying prop13 taxes in Los Altos), I would have abandoned the increasingly greedy Bear Backers expense, et.al. and, especially given the absurd mid-week and night games, I'd be a single ticket guy.
Again, kudos to the fans who showed up for ASU, suffering through the cold, but then warmed and thrilled by an historic comeback that was similar to victories under Wilsey (remember that Hail Mary victory over the Engel Penn State, pre-Paterno, what a hoot).

$$$ rule now, players and class assignments be damned. NCAA is worse than the NFL with rules and standards that don't apply to the football factories.
Now some Cal fans are ready to return to the Winning Is Everything mentality, ready to leap for any coach who shares that, no matter what gets thrown aside, including academics, discarding the reality that Mike White lost his grip and Jeff Tedford did the same.
If Dykes does leave, any new coach must continue the path he got us back on: STUDENT -athletes as in the Wilsey days when highly-ranked DLs came to Cal to major in virology. If we get some version of Sark-ian or Urban-esque coaching, we'll lose no matter how many games are won, because Berkeley education will take unready and unprepared guys down fast. Cal football is a minor subset of UC Berkeley; always had been and as it should be.

bar20;842606895 said:

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That's why we need to look for a gay coach.

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Michael Sam from Mizzou

I blame Buh.

SonOfCalVa;842606881 said:

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My favorite coach and teams were the Ray Wilsey era.
Win or lose, post-game, the band was under the balcony (We want Ray), then Wilsey on the balcony, bringing with him a player for recognition ... middling success during a very turbulent, vocal anti-football, anti-"establishment" era that started in Berkeley and spread, with furd, of course, half-assed lagging.

Players (often undersized) gave it all on mostly warm, sunny afternoons when all games started at 12:30 and had more success than people expected. Players graduated and some stepped into the pros and did well. Pre-game, the game, post-game were a continuity of Cal football.

Wilsey was a great guy and a great coach - because it was more about the team than the coach and there was no insane lust or demands for meaningless bowl games because they didn't exist.

Fans of the Wilsey era (few) enjoyed the entire Saturday experience, and they enjoyed even "moral" victories because the team never quit or died; upsets were a joy and they happened. To enjoy Cal football, one had to attend the games. No TV, especially no TV timeouts for commercials. The only music in the stadium was from the Great Cal Band.

Fans now seem to bleed envy-green for programs that cheat and cut corners, pretend-semipro teams ... bleh.
Guys like Lupoi are loved, until they screw their schools. [SIZE=1]student[/SIZE]-ATHLETES are the cannon fodder that feed the new fans and they love coaches who win (for a while), ignoring the totality of academic and athletic performance.

The Rose Bowl as it was, Big 10 vs Pac whatever, is DEAD. It died before the Old Blues.
It's still game by game, and people have to make their own enjoyment from the Cal experience, win or lose.
But, it's just a game and much pity for those who wrap their lives around a game.

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The essence of sport and sportsmanship. Too many here don't get it.

txwharfrat;842606860 said:

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I have come to the conclusion that Cal simply cannot have nice things. The collective self esteem of the football program as an entity won't allow it.

And the two largest groups of alums to blame are those under 35 years old and those over 65. I'm convinced now that those students who went to school in the JT years have a warped sense of quick-fix entitlement. And, those over the age of 65 are simply staring to closely at their own mortality and can't afford to allow Cal to build a long term program. They need some lucky strike of lightning to hit and get a Rose Bowl before they die.

Perhaps those of us that went to school in the 70's, 80's, and 90's can afford to watch a true "program" be built the right way with high GPA student athletes, exciting play, and a Bear-will-never-quit attitude. We can afford to watch, and can enjoy to watch, the process of a program being built unfold before our eyes. That is what is happening at Cal now.

But I fear there are too many young people and near-the-grave old Bears that won't allow this to happen. It's too bad ... Cal was finally heading in the right direction - just in time for you guys, and alums that influence the administration, to begin to tear it down.

Yep. It's your fault. Time to go look in the mirror and say to yourself "it's my fault Cal can't have nice things".


Thanks a lot guys....

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Hey, it's a two way street.

As long as Cal fans continue to buy season tickets, nothing will change. The administration refuses to do anything more than pay lip service to revenue sports. And maybe they're right because football and basketball suck up huge amounts of money and usually induce atheltic departments to run a deficit.

There isn't nearly enough money to pay coordinator and assistant coaches' salaries, academic resources are perennially spread thin or stretched to the breaking point, and the Faculty Senate continues to wield outsized power when it comes to its impact on the Athletic Department and thereby on revenue sports.

The Stadium rebuild and the SAHPC were important facility upgrades that needed to be done, but those upgrades are simply cosmetic in the sense that they are the most visible artifacts of a narrative that the administration has made a commitment to revenue sports. That commitment is incomplete and really hasn't changed in more than 50 years.

It might be more convincing if you could spell his name - WILLSEY!
Nevertheless, you make many good points. Sonny has it easy compared to Ray Willsey trying to recruit post-FSM Era.
Don't just blame the young and the old - blame everyone who doesn't show up and buy season tickets - 99% of the Cal graduates - they have voted with their feet.

FiatSlug;842606948 said:

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Hey, it's a two way street.

As long as Cal fans continue to buy season tickets, nothing will change. The administration refuses to do anything more than pay lip service to revenue sports. And maybe they're right because football and basketball suck up huge amounts of money and usually induce atheltic departments to run a deficit.

There isn't nearly enough money to pay coordinator and assistant coaches' salaries, academic resources are perennially spread thin or stretched to the breaking point, and the Faculty Senate continues to wield outsized power when it comes to its impact on the Athletic Department and thereby on revenue sports.

The Stadium rebuild and the SAHPC were important facility upgrades that needed to be done, but those upgrades are simply cosmetic in the sense that they are the most visible artifacts of a narrative that the administration has made a commitment to revenue sports. That commitment is incomplete and really hasn't changed in more than 50 years.

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Sad but true actually....

you're blaming groups of people that have nothing to do with anything we just watch the games man

LOL - Your spirit of grumpiness mirrors mine this week. Thanks for this.

And I agree about the kids who grew up under Tedford...I can't blame the older guys though. They've been with the program too long to assign blame. Badge of honor.

You should have slept in. Assigning blame to groups of folks on an internet site for a football coach interviewing for another job seems misplaced.

txwharfrat;842606860 said:

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I have come to the conclusion that Cal simply cannot have nice things. The collective self esteem of the football program as an entity won't allow it.

And the two largest groups of alums to blame are those under 35 years old and those over 65. I'm convinced now that those students who went to school in the JT years have a warped sense of quick-fix entitlement. And, those over the age of 65 are simply staring to closely at their own mortality and can't afford to allow Cal to build a long term program. They need some lucky strike of lightning to hit and get a Rose Bowl before they die.

Perhaps those of us that went to school in the 70's, 80's, and 90's can afford to watch a true "program" be built the right way with high GPA student athletes, exciting play, and a Bear-will-never-quit attitude. We can afford to watch, and can enjoy to watch, the process of a program being built unfold before our eyes. That is what is happening at Cal now.

But I fear there are too many young people and near-the-grave old Bears that won't allow this to happen. It's too bad ... Cal was finally heading in the right direction - just in time for you guys, and alums that influence the administration, to begin to tear it down.

Yep. It's your fault. Time to go look in the mirror and say to yourself "it's my fault Cal can't have nice things".


Thanks a lot guys....

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txwharfrat;842606860 said:

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I have come to the conclusion that Cal simply cannot have nice things. The collective self esteem of the football program as an entity won't allow it.

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I agree with this conclusion, but not the route you took to get to it.

I think Cal can't have nice things because the fan base is too accepting of the narrative that it's "just too hard to win at Cal" and therefore they are happy with anyone who can even manage to break even in terms of wins and losses. There is no real push from fans and donors to have a team that is a consistent winner. Your post falls right into that trap.

If Sonny Dykes leaves then that is no great tragedy. He got reasonably acceptable results in his third season here, but there's no strong evidence that he was the guy to build a great program at Cal. We'd have just as much chance with his replacement.

txwharfrat;842606860 said:

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I have come to the conclusion that Cal simply cannot have nice things. The collective self esteem of the football program as an entity won't allow it.

And the two largest groups of alums to blame are those under 35 years old and those over 65. I'm convinced now that those students who went to school in the JT years have a warped sense of quick-fix entitlement. And, those over the age of 65 are simply staring to closely at their own mortality and can't afford to allow Cal to build a long term program. They need some lucky strike of lightning to hit and get a Rose Bowl before they die.

Perhaps those of us that went to school in the 70's, 80's, and 90's can afford to watch a true "program" be built the right way with high GPA student athletes, exciting play, and a Bear-will-never-quit attitude. We can afford to watch, and can enjoy to watch, the process of a program being built unfold before our eyes. That is what is happening at Cal now.

But I fear there are too many young people and near-the-grave old Bears that won't allow this to happen. It's too bad ... Cal was finally heading in the right direction - just in time for you guys, and alums that influence the administration, to begin to tear it down.

Yep. It's your fault. Time to go look in the mirror and say to yourself "it's my fault Cal can't have nice things".


Thanks a lot guys....

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From the 70's here. The JT years showed possibility, as did the Bruce Snyder years, before the AD made the single worst blunder in Cal football history (in letting Snyder, and not honoring the deal points). You may think they see "entitlement"-some of us look at that as "reasonable expectations." Its like what folks who went through Superstorm Sandy say-"now we know its possible."

CAL6371;842606956 said:

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It might be more convincing if you could spell his name - WILLSEY!
Nevertheless, you make many good points. Sonny has it easy compared to Ray Willsey trying to recruit post-FSM Era.
Don't just blame the young and the old - blame everyone who doesn't show up and buy season tickets - 99% of the Cal graduates - they have voted with their feet.

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lol ... I've been misspelling his name for a long time ... but thanks for the correction.
I'm not sure that Cal then and now can be compared. Wi[U]lL[/U]sey had social challenges but it was a helluva lot "easier" then to get into Cal than it is now. A mid-3.0 and decent SATs wasn't that unusual for admission but then the "fun" began with a deluge of reading lists, writing assignments, et.al.; now ... gawd, the competition to defeat the "curve" and survive must be fierce.

Dykes has done a helluva job finding guys ready and able to compete in the classroom ... no small feat, and the recruits keep getting better as he finds the guys who want a UC Berkeley degree, competing against schools who have athlete friendly majors and grading. A guy from Cal, playing football and its demands, getting above a 3.0 is a real accomplishment. Getting all-academic football honors is a solid, impressive achievement. Hell, I walked on to the frosh team and got a taste, just a hint, at what guys have to go through now.

What kind of players Dykes classes turn out to be is about to be determined. Each class seems to be better than the last, so the trend in the classroom and on the field is trending up nicely. The Comeback was a throwback to Bears who didn't quit or die. If that wasn't just a positive aberration then the coming future of Cal football will be more than adequate, comparisons to other programs be damned. Cal football players are part of UC Berkeley again.

txwharfrat;842606922 said:

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I know I know. I just want to see a long term program built over an extended period of time. I will be wondering like my father (age 84) when the Rose Bowl will come. I sense it is likely too late for him. My brother is 60 and I'm 52 - both Cal alums. The bell may ring for us with no Rose Bowl either...

But I do want to enjoy watching a team that never gives us, fights on, wins more than it loses, and does things the right way. I vote to give Sonny a competitive salary and extension to see how far he can take this program doing things the right way.

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Wow! You just want a team that wins more than it loses. Talk about low expectations! That's the main problem with the Cal fan base--a large percentage is satisfied with mediocrity.