Just announced on his Twitter that he is going to graduate and transfer to another school. Obviously a hit to our LB depth.

Sorry on phone and can't link.

Serious lol if its furd

Cal Football.

Just don't go go Stanford man.... Hopefully this opens up a position for Downs to get significant playing time.

Must have been low on the "buy-in" chart.

That stinks

Are we gonna run a 4-1-6 next year?

Players transferring out..always the sign of a healthy program...Negas vs Pumpers..LETS GET IT ON!!!!

82gradDLSdad;842617816 said:

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Must have been low on the "buy-in" chart.

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lol

TheSouseFamily;842617826 said:

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Are we gonna run a 4-1-6 next year?

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We're gonna just convert our #3 QB to LB..problem solved.

#SonnyBall

best of luck to him! glad he got his degree.

better not be Furd. and damn shame that's actually a possibility we have to consider nowadays.

MinotStateBeav;842617829 said:

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Players transferring out..always the sign of a healthy program...Negas vs Pumpers..LETS GET IT ON!!!!

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Seriously. Starters wanting to transfer out even after they finally get a winning season speaks volumes about the state of the program.

Hey MB, how about that LB depth next year? This speaks volume about the faith our D guys have in SD and AK. But I think Chachere is the real culprit here. Can't coach. Can't recruit. And now he's driving out a good player. Good luck on recruiting decent LB for 2016.

calguru;842617836 said:

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Seriously. Starters wanting to transfer out even after they finally get a winning season speaks volumes about the state of the program.

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What do you want him to do? Spin his wheels for a year so we can be entertained by his talents. He doesn't owe us that. The problem is that Cal doesn't offer half-assed one year Master's. That is something to be proud of. I just hope he doesn't end up at Furd.

Go!Bears;842617843 said:

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What do you want him to do? Spin his wheels for a year so we can be entertained by his talents. He doesn't owe us that. The problem is that Cal doesn't offer half-assed one year Master's. That is something to be proud of. I just hope he doesn't end up at Furd.

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I want cal to run a program that drives players to want to hang around and not bail the first chance they get. This isn't a statement about Barton but about the state of the program/coaching.

By the way, this recent phenomena casts new light on the concept of burning a redshirt year...

calguru;842617845 said:

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I want cal to run a program that drives players to want to hang around and not bail the first chance they get. This isn't a statement about Barton but about the state of the program/coaching.

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So Football before education? Sorry, considering the risks they take, I think that's backwards.

Go!Bears;842617843 said:

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What do you want him to do? Spin his wheels for a year so we can be entertained by his talents. He doesn't owe us that. The problem is that Cal doesn't offer half-assed one year Master's. That is something to be proud of. I just hope he doesn't end up at Furd.

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Get real. It's clear Barton is not going to play for a bad Cal D next year even if Cal offers him "half-assed" Masters. He saw Sebastian and Scarlett leaving for greener pasture, with Scarlett improving his NFL stock at Stanford. I don't blame Barton for leaving. His NFL prospect ain't gonna be any better by staying at Cal. The real question is whether Dykes has the guts to replace Chachere.

Go!Bears;842617847 said:

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So Football before education? Sorry, considering the risks they take, I think that's backwards.

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I think your understanding here is backwards. 99% of the time these "grad" transfers are "football before education" moves for the players. If he is truly making this decision for academic reasons then more power to him, but I'd be willing to wager that's not the case.

calguru;842617845 said:

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I want cal to run a program that drives players to want to hang around and not bail the first chance they get. This isn't a statement about Barton but about the state of the program/coaching.

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It may say something about the player.
Most likely.... He wants to take a phony baloney 1-year masters...or he can't get in to a legitimate masters program.

Wish him well but please don't go to the FURD

GivemTheAxe;842617854 said:

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It may say something about the player.
Most likely.... He wants to take a phony baloney 1-year masters...or he can't get in to a legitimate masters program.

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These grad transfers are rarely about graduate degrees. More likely about playing time, improving NFL prospect or dissatisfaction with coaches.

Good luck to the young man and I appreciate his hard work.

He's not going to improve his NFL prospects, though.

Its cool for us to be a doormat lets not say anything for hopes nobody gets a frown

MoragaBear;842617860 said:

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How about everyone showing a little class and wishing Mike well instead of assigning your own personal biases as to the reason why he's making the grad transfer? Give it a rest, people.

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Geez MB, you are a little testy. I don't think anyone is criticizing Barton for leaving. Some have wished him well. But his leaving does bring legitimate concerns about LB depth, recruiting and coaches, especially in light of other notable team leaders transferring via grad route like Sebastian and Scarlett. It's not an isolated incidence. If you have problem with folks asking these questions (not directly at Barton), why do you even bother hosting this forum? Maybe you should make it clear as a ground rule that no personal biases are allowed on this board.

dbearson;842617864 said:

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its cool for us to be a doormat lets not say anything for hopes nobody gets a frown

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lol!

MoragaBear;842617860 said:

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How about everyone showing a little class and wishing Mike well instead of assigning your own personal biases as to the reason why he's making the grad transfer? Give it a rest, people.

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+1000

I was once told two good degrees from two different respected schools is better than two degrees from the same school. I know thats simplistic but I never forgot when I was told that.

If Scarlett gets a masters and bachelors from Cal and Stanford in five years. How is that not a good move for him? Same with Avery. Haven't the players fulfilled their obligation to the school once they graduate or is there more to it?

Look on the bright side guys, maybe Missouri and South Carolina will turn him down and next week he will announce his return to Cal! We have some recent precedent.

Unit2Sucks;842617878 said:

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Look on the bright side guys, maybe Missouri and South Carolina will turn him down and next week he will announce his return to Cal! We have some recent precedent.

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Lol

MoragaBear;842617872 said:

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Get real. There's been plenty of stuff said about both Barton and how crappy the staff and program supposedly are.

Worrying about depth is one thing. Throwing out pejoratives at him or the staff when people have no idea what they're talking about goes well beyond that.

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I am not trying to say anything about Barton. At the same time, we may not have any clue what's going on, but can't you agree that year after year having our seniors decide to go play elsewhere rather than stay here, provides some insight into the state of our program (especially considering we have a solid prospect of another winning season next year)?

MoragaBear;842617860 said:

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How about everyone showing a little class and wishing Mike well instead of assigning your own personal biases as to the reason why he's making the grad transfer? Give it a rest, people.

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Hear hear.