killa22;842644692 said:

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Tell that to Connor Halliday haha.

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Good one.
I don't know: Halliday was cursed.

Big C_Cal;842644701 said:

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Sounds like political-speak when you need to answer a question in front of the media, but there's no reason to actually reveal any detail, i.e. a good answer.

Regarding the choice, we have to trust that Dykes was able to make an even more-informed decision than the posters on this board. (Yes, I guess that's a bit of a dig at the folks who have an opinion about this hire, based on some skeletal Spavital bio facts.) Okay, there was Buh, I get that, but don't we just have to assume that each time Dykes makes a mistake, he learns from it and that he's capable of identifying/hiring a good OC?

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Yes!
Looking forward to his next hires at DL and LB coach

Big C_Cal;842644701 said:

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Sounds like political-speak when you need to answer a question in front of the media, but there's no reason to actually reveal any detail, i.e. a good answer.

Regarding the choice, we have to trust that Dykes was able to make an even more-informed decision than the posters on this board. (Yes, I guess that's a bit of a dig at the folks who have an opinion about this hire, based on some skeletal Spavital bio facts.) Okay, there was Buh, I get that, but don't we just have to assume that each time Dykes makes a mistake, he learns from it and that he's capable of identifying/hiring a good OC?

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Sonny and Spav will both be highly motivated to make a success of their partnership. I'm excited by the possibilities.

killa22;842644692 said:

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Tell that to Connor Halliday haha.

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True. Not as clear cut as it looks. At least keep the ball near the center if you are going for the FG. Goff did a good job in doing that - Halliday, not so much.

Sebastabear;842644690 said:

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Did this actually happen? Franklin wanted to go for the TD at the end of the ASU game? I would have absolutely lost my mind if we had done that. The game was won when we got to the 12 (or whatever it was). Anything other than a field goal there would have been coaching malpractice.

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Yes. And there's speculation that may have contributed to TF wanting to leave to be closer to his family.

going4roses;842644534 said:

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Beardog/killa/berk thoughts on hire?

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Busy taking my boys to Siper Bowl City today. Will do some research on Spavital and provide my thoughts over the weekend.

On the surface, I like the hire.

Beardog26;842644712 said:

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Busy taking my boys to Siper Bowl City today. Will do some research on Spavital and provide my thoughts over the weekend.

On the surface, I like the hire.

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Y'all be safe and enjoy

beeasyed;842644660 said:

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considering many of their best offensive recruits/players have come out in support of spav (including Kyle Allen) I wouldn't worry about it

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Good, if that's true and he wasn't a contributor to the dysfunction then by all accounts he should provide a boost to QB recruiting and take that to a national level.

Did he recruit wr Christian Kirk?

CaliforniaEternal;842644717 said:

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Good, if that's true and he wasn't a contributor to the dysfunction then by all accounts he should provide a boost to QB recruiting and take that to a national level.

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hopefully not just QB. with regional division of labor on recruiting, as well as his experience recruiting many other non-QB positions while at TAMU, and his youth, we should expect to see results at many positions

going4roses;842644718 said:

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Did he recruit wr Christian Kirk?

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primary on hill, kirk, allen, murray, stewart

GATC;842644709 said:

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True. Not as clear cut as it looks. At least keep the ball near the center if you are going for the FG. Goff did a good job in doing that - Halliday, not so much.

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For the record, my (drunken) recollection is that we milked the last ~20 seconds, so we aren't talking about a choice between going for it and if we don't get the TD we lose the game. My recollection was that we had enough time to take a shot at the endzone, and if it failed we had a TO to burn to bring in the kicker for the win. SD overruled him and just let the clock wind down before sending the kicker out.

mbBear;842644678 said:

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Dykes himself said Cal has to do better keeping guys home...you don't have to defend your boy when he admits there is an issue. Again, this does address the issue with a better overall recruiter.
Sonny did good with the hire, Sonny did good with the hire...there, I repeated it for you so you don't have to go off on neeners or negas or whatever word you are making up to deflect even a hint of critical thinking.

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No issue ... doing better does not mean we did bad ... good>better>best?

killa22;842644558 said:

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I like the hire -- of all the possible air raid guys out there, Spav stood out to me since he's from Holgerson's side of the Air-Raid tree.

Dana and Sonny have a long history, and I prefer the direction that they have took their versions of the air-raid (namely their emphasis on the vertical pass game and building nice complimentary constraint components to their schemes).

He's a young guy w/ a nice recruiting background (he brought in some studs to WVU, and likewise did the same at Texas A&M).

If you go back and look @ the tape of his TAMU offenses, there's a lot of similarities between what they do, and what we did w/ Tony in terms of route concepts, play action, and RPO -- Spav should be able to work within the scheme that our offensive staff has put together, and possibly add some new wrinkles that will compliment what we already do.

The transition (scheme wise) should be relatively seamless -- the reps we have invested in our Roster will not be wasted.

From watching some of TAMU film, its clear that a huge part of their offensive philosophy was to attack presnap leverage w/ spread formations w/ a mix of the inside zone run game paired w/ the screen game (we were more outside zone / power paired w/ the vertical pass). They would catch teams in nickel personnel, and were able to attack overhang slot defenders in run/pass conflict -- so the bubble-screen game was a huge part of what they did (so the TAMU fanbase crybaby action about the bubble-screen may have been warranted -- but in the end, when I see guys who attack that, I know they "get it" -- Football is a game of numbers and spatial geometry).

A lot of what made the TFS BearRaid great is that emphasized a mix of RPO and Play Action to go vertical on dudes over the top -- which played to the strengths of Jared's game. It's all about adapting your scheme to the strengths of the personnel you have on hand. As far as I can recall, Spav did a nice job of featuring his playmakers, but I think the whole Sumlin-toxic-voodoo action w/ his QB's kind of messed with that collective mojo of the entire TAMU offense.

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Two comments:
1. Agree with the analysis of setting up the vertical play. This past year (maybe it was Goff or maybe Goff finally had the support that was missing in the two prior years) I noticed that Cal had a large number of 3-and-long plays that were converted to first downs. The first two downs would set up the successful third down. For the first time since AR was QB I was not in a funk to hear 3d-8, 3d-10 or even 3d-15. I thought: Not to worry we'll get the first down.
In fact I was most worried when Cal was 3d-2 or 3d-3 since I was worried that Sonny would be conservative and try to run the ball and Cal would get stuffed at the line.

2. I also agree that "its all about adapting your scheme to the strengths of the personnel". Recently I heard Sonny make that same comment when asked about the style of offense Cal would run in 2015 and whether he would choose as a starter the QB that most resembled Goff. He said that he would look at who was the best QB and change the offense to fit that person.

Boom!!

I concur with Looperbear that this is an upgrade that will probably offer some new wrinkles to the BearRaid offense. It should really help recruiting with a 30 year old, high profile quarterback coach & offensive coordinator. After working against SEC defenses, the Pac 12 should not be too overwhelming for him...Exciting hire that could take Cal to the next level in recruiting! GO BEARS!

I'm calling 7-5 next year plus another bowl win PLUS 2017 we are in the conversation to win the conference. Yeah that's what I wrote.

upsetof86;842644736 said:

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I'm calling 7-5 next year plus another bowl win PLUS 2017 we are in the conversation to win the conference. Yeah that's what I wrote.

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36 Nega Bears will have this post bookmarked within the next few hours. Me?.. I applaud you.

Pass the liquid Spavital please. Or is the extended release tab better?

Schroeder71;842644734 said:

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I concur with Looperbear that this is an upgrade that will probably offer some new wrinkles to the BearRaid offense. It should really help recruiting with a 30 year old, high profile quarterback coach & offensive coordinator. After working against SEC defenses, the Pac 12 should not be too overwhelming for him...Exciting hire that could take Cal to the next level in recruiting! GO BEARS!

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Sec defenses vs Pac 12 defenses hmm I thought of that too

hopefully that bodes well

Will any DC's in conference be familiar with Jake or his tendencies

Schroeder71;842644734 said:

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I concur with Looperbear that this is an upgrade that will probably offer some new wrinkles to the BearRaid offense. It should really help recruiting with a 30 year old, high profile quarterback coach & offensive coordinator. After working against SEC defenses, the Pac 12 should not be too overwhelming for him...Exciting hire that could take Cal to the next level in recruiting! GO BEARS!

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Honestly, I don't get the mysticism about SEC defenses. They pretty much run the same sh!t everyone else does -- they just typically have better athletes and much more depth.

I've actually seen much more innovation and radical exotic stuff from mid major programs. Look at a dude like Aranda, scheme wise, a lot of the stuff he runs came out of experimenting in the WAC / MWC -- his game plan against Sonny/TFS La Tech back in 2010/2011 @ Hawaii was very nice.

In the SEC it's less about the scheme and more about roster depth and athleticism. Spread teams like A&M and Mizzou did just fine against purportedly "elite" SEC defenses.

Sh!t, Tony Franklin carved the fck out of a buzz-saw of a Georgia team back in 2007 @ Troy of all places -- goes to show TFS can work just fine against SEC defenses.

NYCGOBEARS;842644737 said:

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36 Nega Bears will have this post bookmarked within the next few hours. Me?.. I applaud you.

Pass the liquid Spavital please. Or is the extended release tab better?

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Haha liquid Spavital I love that I'm book marking that one myself

Sebastabear;842644690 said:

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Did this actually happen? Franklin wanted to go for the TD at the end of the ASU game? I would have absolutely lost my mind if we had done that. The game was won when we got to the 12 (or whatever it was). Anything other than a field goal there would have been coaching malpractice.

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Cal's situation vs. ASU reminded me of Cal's situation vs. ucla in 2014.
Cal drive late in the game. Cal needs 3 points to win. Cal gets to within FG range. Should Cal go for the TD or play it safe and go for the FG?
Vs. ucla Cal goes for the TD and loses to an interception.
Vs. ASU Cal goes for the FB and wins.

OK OK the situations were not exactly identical; Cal was not at the 12 vs. UCLA so the pass made a little more sense.
But for the 2014 ucla game, instead of the pass maybe it would have made more sense to give the ball to the runner to get closer (as Cal did in 2015 vs. ASU)

upsetof86;842644736 said:

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I'm calling 7-5 next year plus another bowl win PLUS 2017 we are in the conversation to win the conference. Yeah that's what I wrote.

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7-5 is a must in 2016

68great;842644741 said:

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Cal's situation vs. ASU reminded me of Cal's situation vs. ucla in 2014.
Cal drive late in the game. Cal needs 3 points to win. Cal gets to within FG range. Should Cal go for the TD or play it safe and go for the FG?
Vs. ucla Cal goes for the TD and loses to an interception.
Vs. ASU Cal goes for the FB and wins.

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If targeting had been properly called yes we would have been in FG range

NYCGOBEARS;842644737 said:

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36 Nega Bears will have this post bookmarked within the next few hours. Me?.. I applaud you.

Pass the liquid Spavital please. Or is the extended release tab better?

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What are the side effects of Spavital?

510Bear;842644744 said:

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What are the side effects of Spavital?

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An enthusiasm unknown to mankind, a four hour erection and in some, rare instances, incontinence.

68great;842644741 said:

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Cal's situation vs. ASU reminded me of Cal's situation vs. ucla in 2014.
Cal drive late in the game. Cal needs 3 points to win. Cal gets to within FG range. Should Cal go for the TD or play it safe and go for the FG?
Vs. ucla Cal goes for the TD and loses to an interception.
Vs. ASU Cal goes for the FB and wins.

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It's a little bit different -- field position for example, we were a little far out to count on Langford to hit a 50+ yarder.

Jared got baited a little by Marcus Rios there on that final play -- we went to the well a few too many times against press coverage that afternoon. Offensive execution was nice against ASU -- but it always helps that we were dealing with Britney Spears as ASU's DC -- that fcker runs some incredibly aggressive un-sound **** that we were able to exploit.

Ulbrich was randomly rotating coverages all afternoon, but the one thing he would give us was the fade ball against press, or Anderson on a naked cross off play action -- except for that last play, damn outlier.

NYCGOBEARS;842644746 said:

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An enthusiasm unknown to mankind, a four hour erection and in some, rare instances, incontinence.

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Holy shh or not

NYCGOBEARS;842644746 said:

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An enthusiasm unknown to mankind, a four hour erection and in some, rare instances, incontinence.

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Dude you are off the hook in the best way

heartofthebear;842644688 said:

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Will Spavital keep Lasco and Goff in the game late against SDS if Cal is up by 28 points resulting in a season changing injury to Lasco?

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Cal was up by 21 in the beginning of the 4th Quarter running out the clock when the injury to Lasco happened. I feel it is a gray area, especially in light of Arizona's huge comeback win against us the previous year where AZ scored 36 of its 49 points in the 4th quarter.

upsetof86;842644753 said:

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Dude you are off the hook in the best way

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Right back atcha, brother. Go Beers'

oski003;842644757 said:

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Cal was up by 21 in the beginning of the 4th Quarter running out the clock when the injury to Lasco happened. I feel it is a gray area, especially in light of Arizona's huge comeback win against us the previous year where AZ scored 36 of its 49 points in the 4th quarter.

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It's pretty borderline, but didn't Lasco jump or lunge the play before? I was thinking he would get hurt on that. Instead he got hurt on a fairly harmless tackle. Seems like he has bad luck and his history is that he is injury-prone. Oh well.

jackbauerish;842644486 said:

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Another coach with no connection to California?!?!:headbang

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Give it a rest Jack. The guy can coach and is a great recruiter.

bearsandgiants;842644554 said:

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These be concerning

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These are probably similar douche bags that you find on Growls and Bears Lair. Honestly, why would you put stock in those morons.

going4roses;842644509 said:

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Bit of concern working with gino and johnny cause they both have bad fundamentals but we will see

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Bad fundamentals but both high draft pocks that were successful in college.

killa22;842644558 said:

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I like the hire -- of all the possible air raid guys out there, Spav stood out to me since he's from Holgerson's side of the Air-Raid tree.

Dana and Sonny have a long history, and I prefer the direction that they have took their versions of the air-raid (namely their emphasis on the vertical pass game and building nice complimentary constraint components to their schemes).

He's a young guy w/ a nice recruiting background (he brought in some studs to WVU, and likewise did the same at Texas A&M).

If you go back and look @ the tape of his TAMU offenses, there's a lot of similarities between what they do, and what we did w/ Tony in terms of route concepts, play action, and RPO -- Spav should be able to work within the scheme that our offensive staff has put together, and possibly add some new wrinkles that will compliment what we already do.

The transition (scheme wise) should be relatively seamless -- the reps we have invested in our Roster will not be wasted.

From watching some of TAMU film, its clear that a huge part of their offensive philosophy was to attack presnap leverage w/ spread formations w/ a mix of the inside zone run game paired w/ the screen game (we were more outside zone / power paired w/ the vertical pass). They would catch teams in nickel personnel, and were able to attack overhang slot defenders in run/pass conflict -- so the bubble-screen game was a huge part of what they did (so the TAMU fanbase crybaby action about the bubble-screen may have been warranted -- but in the end, when I see guys who attack that, I know they "get it" -- Football is a game of numbers and spatial geometry).

A lot of what made the TFS BearRaid great is that emphasized a mix of RPO and Play Action to go vertical on dudes over the top -- which played to the strengths of Jared's game. It's all about adapting your scheme to the strengths of the personnel you have on hand. As far as I can recall, Spav did a nice job of featuring his playmakers, but I think the whole Sumlin-toxic-voodoo action w/ his QB's kind of messed with that collective mojo of the entire TAMU offense.

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Boom! I love smart posts!