68great;842677204 said:

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So is Russia afraid to buzz a Turkish ship?

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I think they are used to picking on junior NATO members, it wouldn't make the headlines.

MiZery;842677194 said:

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Much ado about nothing.

http://www.csmonitor.com/World/Security-Watch/2014/0415/Russian-aircraft-buzz-US-Navy-destroyer-How-big-a-deal

The Russian aircraft flew within 1,000 yards of the ship and made roughly a dozen passes, but it did not fly over the destroyer, according to Pentagon officials.

"That is about as tame a flyby as you can get," Harmer says.

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Relatively, yes. But i guarantee you the Captain and Ops officer were paying very close attention. It's a direct violation of at least one agreement that specifies that any 'flyby' is at least 1000 ft, parallel to the ships course, no attack profiles and not to exceed 2 flybys. Provocative yet pretty harmless considering the lack of weapons, but definitely a slight pucker factor increase.

What it shows is that Putin thinks Obama is his b#*~h. Don't worry, the President will go to a baseball game and ignore it. Meanwhile our European friends will begin an arms buildup.

XXXBEAR;842677216 said:

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What it shows is that Putin thinks Obama is his b#*~h. Don't worry, the President will go to a baseball game and ignore it. Meanwhile our European friends will begin an arms buildup.

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They won't do sh$t.

GB54;842677219 said:

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They won't do sh$t.

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+1 They will put off their own defense right up to the time that the U.S. doesn't show up and then they will sh!t.

Russia did the Pentagon a solid.

It will make it easier to get the $580 billion funding for the next FY.

sp4149;842677043 said:

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He's gotten rich while the average Russian has gotten poorer, a day of reckoning is looming.

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Russia needs Bernie Sanders so that he can redistribute the wealth there.

We need to elect Hillary so that we can draw a serious red line.

MiZery;842677192 said:

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If Russia sends ships right off the US shore (in international waters), how do you think the US will react?

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In fact, Russia has been doing that (see link below). The US did not react by sending war planes to simulate an attack on said ship.

The ships were in international waters. And of course, that's the point that you and other Putin/Obama defenders won't acknowledge. This wasn't a "normal" reaction to military ships in international waters . Its indicative of many things, not the least of which is Putin's view of Obama.

http://www.cnn.com/2015/10/28/politics/russian-submarine-expansion-atlantic/

I'm going to make myself feel better by watching Rocky IV again.

oskimama;842677476 said:

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Russia needs Bernie Sanders so that he can redistribute the wealth there.

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I think Russia lacks wealth to redistribute. The one guy who has it all ain't budging and holds all the cards.

BI is good for a laugh

where was maverick when we needed him?

going4roses;842677503 said:

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BI is good for a laugh

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:rollinglaugh: :rollinglaugh: :rollinglaugh: :rollinglaugh: :rollinglaugh:
:rollinglaugh: :rollinglaugh: :rollinglaugh: :rollinglaugh: :rollinglaugh: :rollinglaugh: :rollinglaugh:
:rollinglaugh: send Trumper to negotiate with Putin :rollinglaugh:
:rollinglaugh: send Cruzer to pray with Putin :rollinglaugh:
:rollinglaugh: :rollinglaugh: :rollinglaugh: :rollinglaugh: :rollinglaugh: :rollinglaugh: :rollinglaugh:
:rollinglaugh: :rollinglaugh: :rollinglaugh: :rollinglaugh::rollinglaugh: :rollinglaugh:

high calibear;842677506 said:

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where was maverick when we needed him?

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BTW, as a former Naval Aviator, I cringe every time I see this; uh where are the vertical stabilizers? uh the tails? I do believe that is called prelude to a midair collision.

NVGolfingBear;842677510 said:

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BTW, as a former Naval Aviator, I cringe every time I see this; uh where are the vertical stabilizers? uh the tails? I do believe that is called prelude to a midair collision.

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Who asked you for expert information? Lol

Just messing

going4roses;842677511 said:

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Who asked you for expert information? Lol

Just messing

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This is definitely not the time for facts.

[Dr. Strangelove's plan for post-nuclear war survival involves living underground with a 10:1 female-to-male ratio]

General "Buck" Turgidson: Doctor, you mentioned the ratio of ten women to each man. Now, wouldn't that necessitate the abandonment of the so-called monogamous sexual relationship, I mean, as far as men were concerned?

Dr. Strangelove: Regrettably, yes. But it is, you know, a sacrifice required for the future of the human race. I hasten to add that since each man will be required to do prodigious... service along these lines, the women will have to be selected for their sexual characteristics which will have to be of a highly stimulating nature.

Ambassador de Sadesky: I must confess, you have an astonishingly good idea there, Doctor.

bearister;842677515 said:

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[Dr. Strangelove's plan for post-nuclear war survival involves living underground with a 10:1 female-to-male ratio]

General "Buck" Turgidson: Doctor, you mentioned the ratio of ten women to each man. Now, wouldn't that necessitate the abandonment of the so-called monogamous sexual relationship, I mean, as far as men were concerned?

Dr. Strangelove: Regrettably, yes. But it is, you know, a sacrifice required for the future of the human race. I hasten to add that since each man will be required to do prodigious... service along these lines, the women will have to be selected for their sexual characteristics which will have to be of a highly stimulating nature.

Ambassador de Sadesky: I must confess, you have an astonishingly good idea there, Doctor.

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ha ... the women would pair off with each other and tell him to GFY ...

NVGolfingBear;842677510 said:

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BTW, as a former Naval Aviator, I cringe every time I see this; uh where are the vertical stabilizers? uh the tails? I do believe that is called prelude to a midair collision.

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That is why Iceman called bullsh-t when Maverick said he was inverted when he gave the mig the finger...

JollyBear;842677524 said:

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That is why Iceman called bullsh-t when Maverick said he was inverted when he gave the mig the finger...

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Ha! Good call!

NVGolfingBear;842677510 said:

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BTW, as a former Naval Aviator, I cringe every time I see this; uh where are the vertical stabilizers? uh the tails? I do believe that is called prelude to a midair collision.

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So you're saying you wouldn't be his wingman any time?

BearGoggles;842677488 said:

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In fact, Russia has been doing that (see link below). The US did not react by sending war planes to simulate an attack on said ship.

The ships were in international waters. And of course, that's the point that you and other Putin/Obama defenders won't acknowledge. This wasn't a "normal" reaction to military ships in international waters . Its indicative of many things, not the least of which is Putin's view of Obama.

http://www.cnn.com/2015/10/28/politics/russian-submarine-expansion-atlantic/

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"Putin/Obama defenders". Riiiight.

Jesus, that's an ignorant statement.

The only thing this is indicative of is the desperation Putin is currently feeling, partly because of the box Obama has put him in.

dajo9;842677576 said:

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The only thing this is indicative of is the desperation Putin is currently feeling, partly because of the box Obama has put him in.

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That's how it looks to me. Russia has a crumbling economy; one way for Putin to maintain support would be to get America to look like a threatening bad guy they need him to keep fighting against. Obama won't take the bait.

Is there something I'm missing here? How would any show of force help our position against Putin?

There's no fighting in the War Room!

sycasey;842677626 said:

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That's how it looks to me. Russia has a crumbling economy; one way for Putin to maintain support would be to get America to look like a threatening bad guy they need him to keep fighting against. Obama won't take the bait.

Is there something I'm missing here? How would any show of force help our position against Putin?

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You're not missing a thing. Russia looks stupid. Putin's a cowardly punk.
Putie's being watched but (luckily for us), adults are in charge in DC, not a burned-brain kid surrounded by fellow chickenhawks.