California Dreaming

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Oakbear
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every year I get my hopes up about this time of year ..

this year's dream, Webb is the second coming of Goff, leads Cal to 8-9 wins and is the first QB taken in the draft..

I could dream for more, but this would get me thru the year LOL
wifeisafurd
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Nice post Oak. I could wax eloquence about this time of year with all our hopes, but your post succinctly says it all. Thanks.
Cal89
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Oakbear;842710276 said:

every year I get my hopes up about this time of year ..

this year's dream, Webb is the second coming of Goff, leads Cal to 8-9 wins and is the first QB taken in the draft..

I could dream for more, but this would get me thru the year LOL


The beautiful thing here, and it's been said before by myself and others, is that we don't need a Goff-like QB to be as good as 2015's mediocre Pac-12 offense. Sub 62% in pass completions in conference games is rather poor. Eleven INTs in those games, worst in the Pac-12, tied with the Buffs...

Our new QB doesn't need to be a future number one pick to elevate those very important metrics. Yet, we hear that Webb might be high round material!
XXXBEAR
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Yeah- know what you mean...

What if Webb leads a terrific Cal offense?
What if the offensive line is as big and mean as it appears?
What if Enwere's production at RB rivals Mccaffrey and the Big Game is really "big"?
What if Robertson, Stovall, and a string of talented receivers allow us to reload ANd give us yards after the catch?
What if Spavital and Webb and the RBs combine for the most potent offense in the PAC 12?
What if our defense is statistically better this year and moves into the middle rankings of the PAC 12 defenses?
What if our kicker actually kicks it consistently to the end zone and special teams play rocks due to increased depth?
What if we actually are one of the best conditioned teams under Harrington?

"You may say I'm a dreamer, but I'm not the only one...."
PtownBear1
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Don't care if Webb is the second coming of Goff or Maynard as long as we win games and beat at least one of the California schools this year.
bencgilmore
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I don't know Webb but given his experience and pedigree, I actually wouldn't be surprised if he can match the completion percentage Goff achieved last year (64%, which is lower than what Dykes and Franklin targeted). I am sure there will be some growing pains, probably a few more INTs.

But I love our RBs and our WRs are young but insanely talented... so.. I could see good things.

Defense could improve and still be terrible, but I do not like that LB depth. Really hope our best couple LBs can stay reasonably healthy.
calgo430
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i think we will score a lot of points. i dream our defense gets turnovers which results in wins.
FCBear
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bearister
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Oakbear;842710276 said:

every year I get my hopes up about this time of year ..

this year's dream, Webb is the second coming of Goff, leads Cal to 8-9 wins and is the first QB taken in the draft..

I could dream for more, but this would get me thru the year LOL


Minor problem: Goff is a generational athlete.
NYCGOBEARS
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XXXBEAR;842710282 said:

Yeah- know what you mean...

What if Webb leads a terrific Cal offense?
What if the offensive line is as big and mean as it appears?
What if Enwere's production at RB rivals Mccaffrey and the Big Game is really "big"?
What if Robertson, Stovall, and a string of talented receivers allow us to reload ANd give us yards after the catch?
What if Spavital and Webb and the RBs combine for the most potent offense in the PAC 12?
What if our defense is statistically better this year and moves into the middle rankings of the PAC 12 defenses?
What if our kicker actually kicks it consistently to the end zone and special teams play rocks due to increased depth?
What if we actually are one of the best conditioned teams under Harrington?

"You may say I'm a dreamer, but I'm not the only one...."


Poor John Lennon got assassinated for thinking like that.
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Cal89;842710281 said:

The beautiful thing here, and it's been said before by myself and others, is that we don't need a Goff-like QB to be as good as 2015's mediocre Pac-12 offense. Sub 62% in pass completions in conference games is rather poor. Eleven INTs in those games, worst in the Pac-12, tied with the Buffs...

Our new QB doesn't need to be a future number one pick to elevate those very important metrics. Yet, we hear that Webb might be high round material!


Jared Goff did a marvelous job masking what was still a very poor pass-protecting line. If we can protect the QB, you are right that we don't need a #1 draft pick QB. If the line is not greatly improved though, the QB will have a tough time, unless he's as good as Jared Goff.
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grandmastapoop;842710343 said:

Jared Goff did a marvelous job masking what was still a very poor pass-protecting line. If we can protect the QB, you are right that we don't need a #1 draft pick QB. If the line is not greatly improved though, the QB will have a tough time, unless he's as good as Jared Goff.


Thank you Grandma.
Last year Goff was able to complete so many of his passes only because he could make quick decisions and could get rid of the ball just as quickly.
Too many fans overlooked this point. If Goff had had as much time as most of the QB's in the PAC12, he would have led the league in pass completions.

How much time did Hogan have in the pocket? or Rosen? When they were pressured their completion rate dropped dramatically.
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68great;842710345 said:

Thank you Grandma.
Last year Goff was able to complete so many of his passes only because he could make quick decisions and could get rid of the ball just as quickly.
Too many fans overlooked this point. If Goff had had as much time as most of the QB's in the PAC12, he would have led the league in pass completions.

How much time did Hogan have in the pocket? or Rosen? When they were pressured their completion rate dropped dramatically.


+1
Beardog26
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68great;842710345 said:

Thank you Grandma.
Last year Goff was able to complete so many of his passes only because he could make quick decisions and could get rid of the ball just as quickly.
Too many fans overlooked this point. If Goff had had as much time as most of the QB's in the PAC12, he would have led the league in pass completions.

How much time did Hogan have in the pocket? or Rosen? When they were pressured their completion rate dropped dramatically.


Goff was also very adept at moving his feet and position in the pocket to drift away from the pressure points while keeping his head up and eyes downfield. This would buy him that small additional amount of time for the receiver to create some separation and Goff to deliver the ball to open space. It is one of his strengths which NFL scouts loved leading up to the draft.
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Beardog26;842710353 said:

Goff was also very adept at moving his feet and position in the pocket to drift away from the pressure points while keeping his head up and eyes downfield. This would buy him that small additional amount of time for the receiver to create some separation and Goff to deliver the ball to open space. It is one of his strengths which NFL scouts loved leading up to the draft.


I cracked up hearing so called analysts saying he had terrible footwork
Cal89
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68great;842710345 said:

Thank you Grandma.
Last year Goff was able to complete so many of his passes only because he could make quick decisions and could get rid of the ball just as quickly.
Too many fans overlooked this point. If Goff had had as much time as most of the QB's in the PAC12, he would have led the league in pass completions.

How much time did Hogan have in the pocket? or Rosen? When they were pressured their completion rate dropped dramatically.


Whatever more time other QBs had, only one team yielded fewer sacks per attempted pass. Yes, hurries, hits matter too; and the TFS blocking was to some degree to allow for such...

There have been seasons where the Pac-12 had as many three QB's, 2014 being the most recent, completing passes 69-70% of the time. Surprisingly, their sack rates were very high, led the conference even. A QB of Goff's caliber and experience, those receivers, completing passes below 62% of the time in conference games sucks. It's why we have a new OC.

I truly feel that the TFS was holding this team back. TF's assertion that the System needs to complete passes at 69 to 70% in large part probably goes back to 2012 at La Tech when Colby Cameron did so. As I stated before a few times, Cameron was sacked just 10 times the whole year. I believe that must be a record when one considers that was with 522 passes! The fewest sacks in the Pac-12 last year - 22 by Stanford, who is the most run-heavy team in the conference. Ten sacks on 522 attempted passes is crazy good. Can that be replicated in the Pac-12, anything close to it? Never say never I suppose, but highly unlikely. Further, La Tech's 2012 roster was comprised of recruiting classes that were often the very top of the WAC. We don't have Southern Cal recruiting hauls here...

TF had one the best QBs in college, the number one overall pick, a QB who finished with 1,568 TFS passes, NFL-bound receivers, the second fewest sacks in the conference, RBs who averaged 4.6 yards a carry, an entire team recognized as the most experienced in the P5 - and the offense is an average Pac-12 one, only reaching 6th after playing ASU's worst team in years, which thankfully had the worst pass D in FBS.

Darn right our offense can be better next year, with a different, and hopefully better OC.
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I'll skip the Goffs and the ARs if I can get an annual redeux of Make Paw, Pat Barnes, Dave Barr, Nate Longshore without injuries. Those guys all were ballers. I'm not sure if I would take Boller again.
TheSouseFamily
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Beardog26;842710353 said:

Goff was also very adept at moving his feet and position in the pocket to drift away from the pressure points while keeping his head up and eyes downfield. This would buy him that small additional amount of time for the receiver to create some separation and Goff to deliver the ball to open space. It is one of his strengths which NFL scouts loved leading up to the draft.


The Goff memory that will linger most prominently for me was that completely ridiculous escape from the pocket (and complete pass) in the ASU game with 2 minutes left. That play encapsulates exactly your point. The footwork and field awareness was just unreal.
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burritos;842710362 said:

I'll skip the Goffs and the ARs if I can get an annual redeux of Make Paw, Pat Barnes, Dave Barr, Nate Longshore without injuries. Those guys all were ballers. I'm not sure if I would take Boller again.


Maybe you wouldn't but my wife wouldn't mind...lol
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TheSouseFamily;842710365 said:

The Goff memory that will linger most prominently for me was that completely ridiculous escape from the pocket (and complete pass) in the ASU game with 2 minutes left. That play encapsulates exactly your point. The footwork and field awareness was just unreal.

That was amazing and likely won the game.

Not quite as crazy but still sublime was that first TD at Austin, escaping and rolling left to throw a dart to a sprinting Mo Harris in the end zone.
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Modest dream :
At the halfway point of the season, after the Oregon St. game, the sports media is talking about Cal as one of the surprise teams of the season (surprise in a good way). Would make BI interesting during the bye week as the negas and the pumpers fought it out.

Also, 65% pass completion. Much more fun than 54%.
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Oakbear;842710276 said:

every year I get my hopes up about this time of year ..

this year's dream, Webb is the second coming of Goff, leads Cal to 8-9 wins and is the first QB taken in the draft..

I could dream for more, but this would get me thru the year LOL


In a somewhat related story, there is nothing wrong with dreaming, as long as those dreams are within some bounds of rationality.

Heck, I dream about living in California all the time!
burritos
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Dark Reverie;842710505 said:

In a somewhat related story, there is nothing wrong with dreaming, as long as those dreams are within some bounds of rationality.

Heck, I dream about living in California all the time!

I just met a fellow Vol who moved into our neighborhood. He mentioned how Gameday at Knoxville was amazing and how the Vol Navy quite a unique feature and experience. We both bashed Lane Kiffin and both subscribed to the rumor that Lane is giving extra curricular lessons to Saban's daughter. Interesting enough, his daughter is named Berkeley, though he said that it's not because he's a "hippy" but because there's a town in Tennessee called Berkeley, I didn't know that.
barabbas
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burritos;842710529 said:

I just met a fellow Vol who moved into our neighborhood. He mentioned how Gameday at Knoxville was amazing and how the Vol Navy quite a unique feature and experience. We both bashed Lane Kiffin and both subscribed to the rumor that Lane is giving extra curricular lessons to Saban's daughter. Interesting enough, his daughter is named Berkeley, though he said that it's not because he's a "hippy" but because there's a town in Tennessee called Berkeley, I didn't know that.


There you go: Berkeley" brand=hippy U
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