Rxrg09b;842715695 said:

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So my biggest question is why a 32 year old "man" feels compelled to lie to his mom about, "how was last night, did you boys have fun?" Why feel compelled to lie to illicit sympathy from your mom? Probably hasn't helped living in Phelps shadow the past 12 or so years. But to your mom? I could understand getting back to Olympic Village, looking at 20,000 or remaining condoms to be used, talking to my second favorite Cal grad Alex Morgan (first is the pole jumper and sadly don't even know her name - Shocky1, some help?) and exaggerating a story to get laid (... And I was, like, whatever). But to your mom?!?

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A: You can't filter this guy's actions through the lens of a normal, literate, functional person, so don't even try.

[video=youtube;gpBYpwxdyTQ][/video]

510Bear;842715702 said:

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A: You can't filter this guy's actions through the lens of a normal, literate, functional person, so don't even try.

[video=youtube;gpBYpwxdyTQ][/video]

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You just crushed it with the YouTube answer.

NYCGOBEARS;842715474 said:

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This story is getting better by the minute. First; the cover up, then the lies, and now the painful truth is leaking out. What a bunch of dumbasses. Luckily, no Cal swimmers were involved.

Forget that Lochte's legacy will always be overshadowed by Phelps, this event will be what he's remembered for. Go Gator!

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Check out his sister's interview (on this site). Then substitute the word "******" for every time she throws out the word "chink". Equally outrageous and sickening.
Great job of raising these outstanding children, Mom.

510Bear;842715702 said:

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A: You can't filter this guy's actions through the lens of a normal, literate, functional person, so don't even try.

[video=youtube;gpBYpwxdyTQ][/video]

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Exactly. He's literally a dumbass.

93gobears;842715662 said:

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Are Brazilian prisons anything like Turkish prisons?

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Better looking women, worse drugs

GB54;842715716 said:

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Better looking women, worse drugs

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Ayahuasca sessions with a shaman might be a legitimate rehabilitation tool and prison rape prevention strategy.

510Bear;842715702 said:

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A: You can't filter this guy's actions through the lens of a normal, literate, functional person, so don't even try.

[video=youtube;gpBYpwxdyTQ][/video]

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Lol, what's hilarious (for me) is his comment about "what women want". My fraternity brother was Mel Gibsons leg stand in for that movie, iirc there was a leg shaving scene.

Lochte: "*Sh*t! I knew I should have stuck with the story about the hookers."

I believe that Lochte's story is truer than the cops, at least until they provide actual evidence. I believe more will come out once all swimmers have left Brazil.

Feigen's going to have to fork over $11K to get his passport back. Thanks, Lochte!

oski003;842715753 said:

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I believe that Lochte's story is truer than the cops, at least until they provide actual evidence. I believe more will come out once all swimmers have left Brazil.

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(I commend your patriotism.)

Which Lochte story are you referring to in the above?

oski003;842715753 said:

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I believe that Lochte's story is truer than the cops, at least until they provide actual evidence. I believe more will come out once all swimmers have left Brazil.

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Is it enough for you to believe it when Lochte offered an apology that was something less than an apology? A group of thugs who just happen to be gifted athletes get away from vandalism... shame.

http://www.sbnation.com/2016/8/19/12552998/rio-olympics-ryan-lochte-robbing-apology-statement-2016

Has it occurred to anyone that Lochte may not have been lying but that he is just that stupid to believe what he said?

YuSeeBerkeley;842715797 said:

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Has it occurred to anyone that Lochte may not have been lying but that he is just that stupid to believe what he said?

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Bingo!

Rxrg09b;842715794 said:

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(I commend your patriotism.)

Which Lochte story are you referring to in the above?

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The one where someone pointed a gun at him and took his money before allowing him to leave.

NYCGOBEARS - I love your comments on this cluster+++ - the LA Times called Lochte the "Ugly American." Spot on imo.

Just for your information, the Brazilian that intervened to translate for the swimmers at the gas station said in the local news that he explained to the Americans that the security guards wanted them to stay at the gas station until the police arrival. The swimmers became very nervous and said that they did not want the incident to end up in the police station and offered to pay for the damages. They paid 100 reais and 20 dollars, which totals about 50 dollars and were let go. The initial Lochte statement said that they were robbed of 400 dollars. I guess the financial loss for Lochte from the incident will be in the hundreds of thousands of dollars because undoubtetly he will lose some of his sponsors, so Feigens financial loss from the incident is relatively minor.

bearister;842715619 said:

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Watch it, boy. My daughter graduated USC, got a good job and is off my payroll and medical plan. I have no gripe with them. She loved it there.

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I'll see you one daughter and raise you an ex-wife.

Lochte makes bong sucking drunk Phelps look like a Nobel Prize winner.

YuSeeBerkeley;842715797 said:

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Has it occurred to anyone that Lochte may not have been lying but that he is just that stupid to believe what he said?

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No. See "forked tongue".

oskigobears;842715535 said:

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I agree with TheSouseFamily post.

Stupid decisions by drunk folks will come home to haunt you!

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The Souse Family would know, being the best family and all.

philbert;842715525 said:

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Why did he make up the story in the first place? Sounds like they had paid off the convenience store owner for the door damage, so what is the point of the robbery story? Makes no sense to me.

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The point? "OMG brown people. SCARY! Amirite?"

NYCGOBEARS;842715474 said:

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This story is getting better by the minute.

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Could be both stories are true, the different versions dependent on different common procedures.
As an American, if an armed cop or pseudo-cop confronted me, and demanded money in a way I perceived to be threatening, I would certainly comply in fear but might very well later describe the event as a robbery.
Possibly in Brazil immediate cash fines or reimbursement for situations or damage is the commonplace behavior and no one would invoke the word "robbery."
Hasn't everyone seen Rashomon?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rashomon_effect

CaliforniaGoldenBear;842715853 said:

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Could be both stories are true, the different versions dependent on different common procedures.
As an American, if an armed cop or pseudo-cop confronted me, and demanded money in a way I perceived to be threatening, I would certainly comply in fear but might very well later describe the event as a robbery.
Possibly in Brazil immediate cash fines or reimbursement for situations or damage is the commonplace behavior and no one would invoke the word "robbery."
Hasn't everyone seen Rashomon?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rashomon_effect

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I got pulled over by a cop in Nicaragua recently. I handed him $10 and he said buenos dias senor.

CaliforniaGoldenBear;842715853 said:

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Could be both stories are true, the different versions dependent on different common procedures.
As an American, if an armed cop or pseudo-cop confronted me, and demanded money in a way I perceived to be threatening, I would certainly comply in fear but might very well later describe the event as a robbery.
Possibly in Brazil immediate cash fines or reimbursement for situations or damage is the commonplace behavior and no one would invoke the word "robbery."
Hasn't everyone seen Rashomon?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rashomon_effect

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But the lie of omission is the giveaway. Lochte knew they vandalized the place, but failed to mention it in his tale. A 32 year old man with extensive international experience should be familiar with the importance of the truth. Initially I was glad he got away. Now, not so much.

He talks like Jeff Spicoli. Lamont and Tonelli did a great bit this morning on him purportedly being interviewed by his better as a bs artist, Brian Williams.

Why did they vandalize the place? Was alcohol involvef?

joe yaks;842715870 said:

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Why did they vandalize the place? Was alcohol involvef?

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Sounds like lots of it. And the door to run some off was locked.

OdontoBear66;842715883 said:

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Sounds like lots of it. And the door to run some off was locked.

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"Run some off." Love it. Stealing it.

grandmastapoop;842715560 said:

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I don't get why this is a mystery. Seems easy to piece together.

The swimmers are wasted. They take a cab. The cab stops at a gas station. The swimmers go to use the bathroom but its locked. The swimmers try to break down the door. They fail. They **** on the walls instead. They either get confronted there by security or go to their cab. The driver either refuses to go because he saw what happened or the security guards get there before they can drive away. The guards order them out of the cab. The guards may or may not have pulled their guns, but no one disputes they have them. Sounds like at least one did pull his gun. The swimmers eventually leave and for some reason Lochte tells his mom, probably because he's an idiot who wanted to tell her what he went through while leaving out his wrongdoings. She blabs to the media. The swimmers are all wasted so their stories are a bit different, plus they are trying to hide their wrongdoings, as well.

It's something along these lines.

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http://deadspin.com/gunnar-bentz-is-back-in-the-u-s-and-says-ryan-lochte-i-1785529473

Prettay, prettay, prettay good, me.

Calcoholic;842715592 said:

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Agree. In this video you can see the part of Lochte's story is at least partially truthful, where they get in the cab and the cab driver refuses to leave, and then they get back out. 0:52 - 1:35.



And then in this video (0:35 - end), they are clearly shown being forced to sit on the curb with their hands up. You can't see anyone pointing a gun at them (out of frame) but that certainly seems likely.



I'm not defending them - they are still idiots - but it's clear that they didn't "fabricate" everything. It appears they told a highly embellished version, which kept changing over time, but the narrative out of the Brazilian authorities and much of the media (that swimmers made it all up out of whole cloth) also isn't accurate.

The characterization of it as a "robbery" is Lochte and company's biggest problem. That's pretty hard to defend.

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Perhaps he should have used the word "extortion" instead of "robbery"...

BrazBear;842715809 said:

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Just for your information, the Brazilian that intervened to translate for the swimmers at the gas station said in the local news that he explained to the Americans that the security guards wanted them to stay at the gas station until the police arrival. The swimmers became very nervous and said that they did not want the incident to end up in the police station and offered to pay for the damages. They paid 100 reais and 20 dollars, which totals about 50 dollars and were let go. The initial Lochte statement said that they were robbed of 400 dollars. I guess the financial loss for Lochte from the incident will be in the hundreds of thousands of dollars because undoubtetly he will lose some of his sponsors, so Feigens financial loss from the incident is relatively minor.

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Good info. Thx.

What did they actually do over by that bathroom?
What evidence is there that they did it?

I'm hearing that they pee'd on a wall?
They broke down a door?
They tore down some exterior picture frame on the outside wall?
They completely destroyed the interior of the bathroom?

If all they did was Pee, big deal. Not right to pull a gun for that?
On the other hand, if they totaled the bathroom entirely, then I can understand why all the commotion and the gas station wanting to stop them from getting away.

I have to say, when this first came out, I thought the Brazilians looked really bad. Robbing folks in a taxi (like them being a setup mark).... the judge ordering them to not leave (not fair to do to victims). In the end, it is sounding like the Brazilians were merely defending their gas station turf and the judge (based upon quick police investigative info) determined who the victims actually were.

Not saying it's right to pull a gun, but I can understand it better... someone comes to your house (or gas station), you're gonna stand your ground.

They just aired this guy's interview with Matt Lauer in primetime and it's obvious he's really, really sorry [SIZE=1]he got caught[/SIZE].