Vote for Cal uniforms vis-a-vis Pac 12 rankings!

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Cal Junkie
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Currently, we are tied for DFL with Stanfurd. This needs to change.

http://www.espn.com/blog/pac12/post/_/id/102529/vote-who-has-the-best-uniforms-in-the-pac-12
bear2034
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voted. too bad they used the blue tops white pants combo.
bear2034
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Cal Junkie;842717383 said:

Currently, we are tied for DFL with Stanfurd. This needs to change.

http://www.espn.com/blog/pac12/post/_/id/102529/vote-who-has-the-best-uniforms-in-the-pac-12


EECS, work your magic!
Vandalus
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oskirules;842717420 said:

voted. too bad they used the blue tops white pants combo.


Seriously.
going4roses
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Just win!!!
Vandalus
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I hate fan polls like these, unless and until the EECS dept gets ramped up and we win.
going4roses
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Lol
Bear_Territory
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There needs to be a rule against white pants at home.
CalBearinLA
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Bear_Territory;842717468 said:

There needs to be a rule against white pants at home.


from what i understand, the seniors picked that combo last year.
going4roses
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CalBearinLA;842717471 said:

from what i understand, the seniors picked that combo last year.


Yep
bear2034
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going4roses;842717472 said:

Yep


The white pants must be roomier in the junk or something.
NYCGOBEARS
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oskirules;842717552 said:

The white pants must be roomier in the junk or something.


Makes the junk look bigger.
going4roses
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NYCGOBEARS;842717553 said:

Makes the junk look bigger.


Dead
TheSouseFamily
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oskirules;842717420 said:

voted. too bad they used the blue tops white pants combo.


That combo deserves to be last. It's horrendous!
Sonofoski
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CalBearinLA;842717471 said:

from what i understand, the seniors picked that combo last year.


Since when do coaches allow players to pick the uniforms they will wear representing CAL. Players that are just passing through get to pick the uniform that represents us. It should never happen. The university is bigger than a bunch of players who are here for a few years.
petalumabear
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Sonofoski;842717697 said:

Since when do coaches allow players to pick the uniforms they will wear representing CAL. Players that are just passing through get to pick the uniform that represents us. It should never happen. The university is bigger than a bunch of players who are here for a few years.


Yeah it's not like they are Cal grads or anything... smh
Mr. Triangle
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The uniforms are pretty weak. Too bad the vote isn't limited just to helmets. The helmets are on fleek. (I have no idea what that means, I hear that from my kids.)
BearlyCareAnymore
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Sonofoski;842717697 said:

Since when do coaches allow players to pick the uniforms they will wear representing CAL. Players that are just passing through get to pick the uniform that represents us. It should never happen. The university is bigger than a bunch of players who are here for a few years.


I agree. Why should players have a say in what they wear when they are just passing through for a few years? The decision should be made by people who passed through for a few years 40 years ago, most of whom never played. Youth can be so self centered.
oski003
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People who stayed for a 5th year should decide because they have more time at Cal.
Sonofoski
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Do you have any idea of what tradition is?

Do you actually think any coach at USC, Michigan, Wisconsin, Alabama, Auburn, Penn State, Florida, Florida State and I could name several more is going to allow a football player or players to decide what uniform they are going to wear?

Why do you think USC doesn't put names on the back of their jerseys?

Get a clue.
AlbertaBear
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What a ridiculous thing to be up in arms about.
blungld
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If I'm being honest I don't think we have best uniform anymore. The recent editions aren't as good as some of the classic looks: Roth era, Snyder era, and Kapp era.

If I knew nothing about college football I would probably pick Washington for pure aesthetics.
BearlyCareAnymore
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Sonofoski;842718028 said:

Do you have any idea of what tradition is?

Do you actually think any coach at USC, Michigan, Wisconsin, Alabama, Auburn, Penn State, Florida, Florida State and I could name several more is going to allow a football player or players to decide what uniform they are going to wear?

Why do you think USC doesn't put names on the back of their jerseys?

Get a clue.


Penn State should not change their uniforms because they have a tradition that people deeply care about. Please provide photographic evidence of Cal having traditional uniforms. You can't. Cal has changed their uniforms every decade or so and few care. By tradition you mean the ones you like
Sonofoski
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OaktownBear;842718114 said:

Penn State should not change their uniforms because they have a tradition that people deeply care about. Please provide photographic evidence of Cal having traditional uniforms. You can't. Cal has changed their uniforms every decade or so and few care. By tradition you mean the ones you like


You seemed to have missed the point; I'm talking about players picking the uniform. BTW, does the CAL uniform have blocked numbers? CAL has had blocked numbers for at least 35 years. That changed in 2013 or did you notice?

And I'm not talking about uniforms I like, I'm talking about tradition.
BearlyCareAnymore
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Sonofoski;842718649 said:

You seemed to have missed the point; I'm talking about players picking the uniform. BTW, does the CAL uniform have blocked numbers? CAL has had blocked numbers for at least 35 years. That changed in 2013 or did you notice?

And I'm not talking about uniforms I like, I'm talking about tradition.


I didn't miss the point. You did. If there is no tradition tied to the uniform, there is nothing wrong with the players having input. And it isn't like the coaches let them design a uniform. They have 4 jerseys and 3 pants that the athletic department had designed. The most the players got to pick is which combination to wear. If you have a problem with their being white pants, that is on the athletic department. The players didn't decide that there would be white pants. The school did. The players just decided to wear them.

What is the tradition that you think is being violated?

On the block numbers, I would assume Cal has used a form of block for far longer than 35 years. That is because most numbers are some form of block, not because there was a conscious style choice. That is like saying sleeves are a tradition. And while they have had block lettering, it hasn't been the same style. For instance, some years it has been outlined in white. Some years it hasn't. Some years the block has had straight square corners. Some years it has had angled corners. It is not a tradition like Penn State. Besides, the players had nothing to do with it. Sandy wanted our own font and had one designed (a silly waste of money especially when it is barely recognizable as different from a block)
Sonofoski
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OaktownBear;842718682 said:

I didn't miss the point. You did. If there is no tradition tied to the uniform, there is nothing wrong with the players having input. And it isn't like the coaches let them design a uniform. They have 4 jerseys and 3 pants that the athletic department had designed. The most the players got to pick is which combination to wear. If you have a problem with their being white pants, that is on the athletic department. The players didn't decide that there would be white pants. The school did. The players just decided to wear them.

What is the tradition that you think is being violated?

On the block numbers, I would assume Cal has used a form of block for far longer than 35 years. That is because most numbers are some form of block, not because there was a conscious style choice. That is like saying sleeves are a tradition. And while they have had block lettering, it hasn't been the same style. For instance, some years it has been outlined in white. Some years it hasn't. Some years the block has had straight square corners. Some years it has had angled corners. It is not a tradition like Penn State. Besides, the players had nothing to do with it. Sandy wanted our own font and had one designed (a silly waste of money especially when it is barely recognizable as different from a block)


Here are my points.

I believe there is tradition in uniforms. Until Tedford, our uniforms were blue tops, gold pants at home and white tops and gold pants on the road. Yes, there have been changes in uniforms prior to Tedford, Mike White had us in light blue with gold helmets and blue pants on the road. When JoeK became coach we returned to traditional blue tops, gold pants and white tops and gold away. In the Gilberston years, it was blue pants on the road. When Holmoe was coach, we went back to traditional uniforms.

I am not aware that in any of this period, except for Tedford, were players given any input into what uniform to wear. And in all of this time, the numbers were blocked. Take a look at the Raiders, Green Bay, Niners, Indianapolis, they all have blocked numbers on their uniforms; Stanford has blocked numbers. Teams that don't have blocked numbers are UCLA, Washington, WSU and in the pros Seattle, the Rams, Chicago. Apparently, Sandy doesn't know the difference between blocked and unblocked numbers and neither does the athletic department.

I don't know what the motivation was to alter our uniforms except to follow the crowd. I do know that Tedford on his own changed our uniforms because I talked to him about it. It would never happen at USC (they believe in tradition) and the other schools I mentioned.

As I said earlier, tradition is something I value. CAL football uniforms should be blue tops, gold pants at home and white tops and gold pants on the road. The numbers should be blocked. If Tedford had removed the stripe from the helmet and removed all the stripes from the pants, we would have had a great looking uniform. We did have blocked numbers on those uniforms.
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