Wow. Hanged himself in prison

If you can't do the time, don't do the crime(s).

This is very interesting...http://www.bostonglobe.com/metro/2017/04/19/hernandezdismiss/BvCcJQ1Ubg3mJAze0ttpvJ/story.html


One week ago...
http://sports.yahoo.com/news/aaron-hernandez-trial-heartbreaking-scene-4-year-old-daughter-shows-court-224354702.html




Great column...
http://sports.yahoo.com/news/aaron-hernandez-exhibited-slightest-change-final-days-143616551.html

MiZery;842833740 said:

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Wow. Hanged himself in prison

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Not to speak ill of the dead or anything, but **** that piece of ****.

okaydo;842833745 said:

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This is very interesting...http://www.bostonglobe.com/metro/2017/04/19/hernandezdismiss/BvCcJQ1Ubg3mJAze0ttpvJ/story.html


One week ago...
http://sports.yahoo.com/news/aaron-hernandez-trial-heartbreaking-scene-4-year-old-daughter-shows-court-224354702.html




Great column...
http://sports.yahoo.com/news/aaron-hernandez-exhibited-slightest-change-final-days-143616551.html

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Editing this: Hernandez' first conviction was voided under a very technical Massachusetts criminal procedural law (you need a live defendant to have a case pending appeal, otherwise it reverts to where the case, including the trial, never happened)(link provided by okaydo):

http://www.bostonglobe.com/metro/2017/04/19/hernandezdismiss/BvCcJQ1Ubg3mJAze0ttpvJ/story.html

I was using the term "innocent" only in that the court system essentially now doesn't recognize Hernandez' first case as even having been brought. Now even defendants who have a trial against them have a presumption of innocence. But for his first case, it's as if the trial or charge never even happened. You now, it's like $C vacating its wins during the Reggie Bush era.

As for what he really did, well, that's another story.

KoreAmBear;842833756 said:

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Hernandez died innocent under the law.

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He was serving life without parole

KoreAmBear;842833756 said:

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Hernandez died innocent under the law.

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He killed the guy he got convicted of murder for to cover up the double murder he got off on.

This raises a number of questions: what was the thread count on the sheet to hold such weight? Will Hernandez be listed as "questionable" in the Pats next injury report?

Was Johnny Cochrane not available to defend AHern?

KoreAmBear;842833756 said:

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Hernandez died innocent under the law.

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What are you talking about? He was already in jail for killing somebody else. This is no loss!

His death apparently voids the original conviction.

"Hernandez was still in the process of appealing his 2014 conviction of murdering Odin Lloyd, which means a legal principle dating back to English common law called “abatement ab initio” applies to his case. “Ab initio” translates to “from the beginning” and chief legal counsel to the Massachusetts Bar Association Michael Healy told the Boston Globe that the principle reverts a case to its start if the convicted party dies before the appeals process has concluded."

“Unfortunately, in the Odin Lloyd matter, for the family, there won’t be any real closure,” Healy said. “Aaron Hernandez will go to his death an innocent man.”

socaliganbear;842833774 said:

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His death apparently voids the original conviction.

"Hernandez was still in the process of appealing his 2014 conviction of murdering Odin Lloyd, which means a legal principle dating back to English common law called "abatement ab initio" applies to his case. "Ab initio" translates to "from the beginning" and chief legal counsel to the Massachusetts Bar Association Michael Healy told the Boston Globe that the principle reverts a case to its start if the convicted party dies before the appeals process has concluded."

"Unfortunately, in the Odin Lloyd matter, for the family, there won't be any real closure," Healy said. "Aaron Hernandez will go to his death an innocent man."

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Yes I saw that too- so the family may get his pension and any other money due on his contract, denied under the conviction charge and the Pats get cap relief. Win- win

Plus Hernandez gets to sue Bob Kraft for cutting an innocent man

Does anyone know if by him committing suicide, his daughter gets money she would not of got if he was found guilty. It would explain why he did it right now. If nothing else, it seemed that he cared about her.

MaximusArelliusDaBearius;842833785 said:

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Does anyone know if by him committing suicide, his daughter gets money she would not of got if he was found guilty. It would explain why he did it right now.

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That's the working theory but I suspect the murder victims family may sue for same

GB54;842833787 said:

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That's the working theory but I suspect the murder victims family may sue for same

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Dudes a piece of **** but as a father anyone could understand that thinking. I messed up, Im a loser, Ill never get out. Whats the best decision I could make at this point in my life.

MaximusArelliusDaBearius;842833788 said:

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Dudes a piece of **** but as a father anyone could understand that thinking. I messed up, Im a loser, Ill never get out. Whats the best decision I could make at this point in my life.

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I doubt if Hernandez was an expert on vague criminal law in the Commonwealth, so maybe he had some help or maybe he had another motive?

Every single aspect of this story kind of makes me sick.

crazy end to a sad story. to a certain extent, it probably helps the victims families as they dont have to wonder about appeals etc. up to the man upstairs to make the final judgment now.

Big C_Cal;842833792 said:

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Every single aspect of this story kind of makes me sick.

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Yes. He was a bad guy. No loss.

You reap what you sow.

Didn't the NFL protect OJ's pension from the courts and the Goldman family?

gobears725;842833795 said:

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crazy end to a sad story. to a certain extent, it probably helps the victims families as they dont have to wonder about appeals etc. up to the man upstairs to make the final judgment now.

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LOL. Under that definition then all convictions are void and everybody is innocent upon death. You can appeal anything in our legal system and then restart the whole process again based on "new information". The cycle never stops.

sp4149;842833811 said:

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Didn't the NFL protect OJ's pension from the courts and the Goldman family?

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semantics, but the correct way to frame it is that federal law protected OJ's NFL pension from the Goldman family. NFL just pays it.

Nm

sp4149;842833811 said:

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Didn't the NFL protect OJ's pension from the courts and the Goldman family?

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???? I was just commenting that at least the victim's families don't have to worry about Hernandez winning an appeal and getting out of jail. If something so tragic ever happened to me, I'd hate it if it kept dragging out. Hopefully the victim's families can find some peace and closure.

KoreAmBear;842833756 said:

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Hernandez died innocent under the law.

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To clarify. A person who is found not guilty of a crime is not found to be
"innocent". That person is merely found "not guilty". That person might still be morally guilty of the crime but the prosecuter was not able to convince a jury of such guilt beyond a reasonable doubt.

GivemTheAxe;842833834 said:

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To clarify. A person who is found not guilty of a crime is not found to be
"innocent". That person is merely found "not guilty". That person might still be morally guilty of the crime but the prosecuter was not able to convince a jury of such guilt beyond a reasonable doubt.

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Well he wasn't found "not guilty" either. What I am saying is that basically his whole case is a nullity since while we was convicted in his first case, his conviction was basically void because he died while his appeal was pending. So essentially, like a games that have been vacated, his conviction was vacated. So in that sense I am saying he is "innocent." Basically the case was voided/vacated. Of course we all know he wasn't but...

Ncsf;842833770 said:

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What are you talking about? He was already in jail for killing somebody else. This is no loss!

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Read @okaydo's citation to a technical procedural rule under Massachusetts law.

GivemTheAxe;842833834 said:

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To clarify. A person who is found not guilty of a crime is not found to be
"innocent". That person is merely found "not guilty". That person might still be morally guilty of the crime but the prosecuter was not able to convince a jury of such guilt beyond a reasonable doubt.

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I think you bring up two important points. No one is found to be innocent under the law. The criminal law presumes that someone is innocent until they have been found guilty without reasonable doubt.

However, I think you also bring up another point that people seem to confuse. The general public is not a criminal court. The reason for such high standard in a criminal court is to protect potentially innocent person from the devastating effect of being found guilty by the government (e.g., take away someone's liberty or property). The societal opinion is that it is better to let guilty people go if that is the price to reduce the odds that an innocent person would be found guilty. The public opinion is not bound by the same standard. And someone can clearly be morally guilty even if they are not found legally and criminally guilty. It bugs me when people confuse legal standard for criminal conviction with general public opinion. As such, I think your point is salient.

Having said all that, and no matter what I think about Aaron as a human being, it does make me sad that he no longer has a chance to repent or be a father to his daughter.

Big C_Cal;842833792 said:

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Every single aspect of this story kind of makes me sick.

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I'm disappointed in you. Right now, Mark Wahlberg is writing a screen play about an idealistic defense attorney( working name, Sully) who takes on Hernandez's case, discovers his innocence, clears his name and catches a pass from Tom Brady to win another Super Bowl. Wait for the movie before jumping to conclusions

MaximusArelliusDaBearius;842833785 said:

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Does anyone know if by him committing suicide, his daughter gets money she would not of got if he was found guilty. It would explain why he did it right now. If nothing else, it seemed that he cared about her.

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Yep, he made 6 million by killing himself.

http://nypost.com/2017/04/20/patriots-now-might-owe-aaron-hernandez-millions/

MaximusArelliusDaBearius;842834368 said:

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Yep, he made 6 million by killing himself.

http://nypost.com/2017/04/20/patriots-now-might-owe-aaron-hernandez-millions/

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Good career move

MaximusArelliusDaBearius;842834368 said:

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Yep, he made 6 million by killing himself.

http://nypost.com/2017/04/20/patriots-now-might-owe-aaron-hernandez-millions/

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Can you make money if you're not alive?

oskirules;842834373 said:

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Can you make money if you're not alive?

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You can make it you just can't spend it