Blueblood;842860317 said:
ahahahahahahahahahahhhhhhh.......god, it feels good to be back!
Mike Williams should sue the producers of Groundhog Day for copyright infringement.
Blueblood;842860317 said:
ahahahahahahahahahahhhhhhh.......god, it feels good to be back!
MoragaBear;842860148 said:
To be clear, I think Wilcox and the staff aren't as worried about the QB and team as you think they are.
OdontoBear66;842860514 said:
Considering we had one of the worst defenses in America last year, and yes, we improved under the current players and coaching, but that defense has made our current offense look bad, does not bode well for our QB and OL outlook, despite what the mods suggest. Yes, defenses tend to be ahead of offenses at this time of year, but Our Defense ahead of our offense???
moonpod;842860519 said:
OR our defensive coaching and scheming really was that bad last year.
OdontoBear66;842860514 said:
Considering we had one of the worst defenses in America last year, and yes, we improved under the current players and coaching, but that defense has made our current offense look bad, does not bode well for our QB and OL outlook, despite what the mods suggest. Yes, defenses tend to be ahead of offenses at this time of year, but Our Defense ahead of our offense???
wifeisafurd;842860535 said:
My bet is the defense improves a lot and the offense losses scoring production due to line-up changes and more sustained, time consuming drives. Not sure where that gets Cal from a win/loss perspective.
6956bear;842860556 said:
Yes defenses tend to be ahead of the offenses after 2 weeks of camp. But IMO the lack of sustained reps by any of the Qbs is a major part of the problem. Offense develops a rhythm over time and that comes from repeated reps working as a unit. So much shuffling of players along the OL and at WR that very little rhythm gets established. The OL may be a weak link based on what I saw yesterday. Compounding the problem is that a new offense is being installed and some players like D Robertson and Stovall sat out the Spring for various reasons. Malik McMorris did not play yesterday either. They are being cautious with some bodies being dinged. The defense had a full compliment of players to play. It showed.
I am not in disagreement with the staff in shuffling the players so far. They need to find out who can play and strengths of the players. But now after a Spring and 2 weeks of Fall camp it is likely time to get more work for the units that will be playing. The QB competition may still be ongoing but IMO anyway it should not be a 4 man battle. Pick your 2 best get them the reps they need and find out which one is the starter. Hopefully by next Saturday they can have a full compliment of OL and WRs along with McMorris and the offense will be better. But after Saturday they will need to prepare for the season in earnest. Pick a QB (IMO they could pick now) and get going.
But the defense is playing better. The tackling was noticeably better. The depth at DB was very impressive. All 10 ( I count the nickel backs as they will play so much) among the 2 deep were pretty good. Trey Turner and Ashtyn Davis were running with the 3's and they are solid players. The DBs may not have any surefire top notch NFL type guys but nice athleticism all around. And much better use of players like Downs (blitzing and attacking) and Saffle (standing up where he can use his athleticism) and varying the fronts and pass rush schemes. Not Alabama by any stretch but better.
moonpod;842860559 said:
If the defense ends up around 70 and the O drops to about 40 historically that easily gets us bowling. That being said 70 would be a giant leap for the D (although still below the middle) and 40 is a pretty good drop for the O
dajo9;842860572 said:
I get the impression the O is set to drop more than that.
tequila4kapp;842860578 said:
The OL and QB areas are problems. That is a bad sign for this year. BUT...big picture, the offense is going to be more than fine. Our OC has a track record. That doesn't just go away. We will eventually be fine on that side of the ball. The defensive improvement is great to hear about. Put the two together and we'll eventually see some solid, balanced football. Again, maybe that doesn't happen this season. But I believe it is coming.
XXXBEAR;842860580 said:
So happy to see the resurgence of the defense! Wouldn't surprise me to see Wilcox and staff naming the QB starter this week (and I think it's Bowers).
moonpod;842860559 said:
If the defense ends up around 70 and the O drops to about 40 historically that easily gets us bowling. That being said 70 would be a giant leap for the D (although still below the middle) and 40 is a pretty good drop for the O
OaktownBear;842860649 said:
Not as big a difference as you think. Pace of play alone will reduce the number of points scored on both sides of the ball by 10%-15%. If I remember correctly we were close to 40 in offensive efficiency last year and in the nineties in defense efficiency.
ducky23;842860623 said:
I think Matt Anderson is going to be of Doug brien like importance this year.
Under dykes, the kicker is not of huge significance since the offense is generally efficient enough to score tds and the defense is bad enough where fgs don't matter as much.
This year will most likely be very different and every fg will be of greater importance. So it'll be nice to have one of the better kickers in the country. Cause I can see us stalling out on the 30 a lot this year.
oskirules;842860757 said:
Matty Ice Anderson for Heisman.
moonpod;842860722 said:
it'll be interesting because sure pace of play had to factor but ultimately in total O we were 10 last year and total D we were 125 and we JUST missed bowling.
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Oaktown some of that is by design on the offensive side. sure could the efficiency be better absolutely but fundamentally Dykes and many of the spread offenses aren't designed to be "effecient" but more they wear down defenses. does it hurt your own defense? absolutely because there's a sort of "acceptance" that you might end up with a 10 second 3 and out. ultimately it ended up being by either measure a top tier O last year. sure much better at yards than points, but still it was a top tier O.
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as for EWU pace of play, it seems to vary tremendously depending on whom they play and who they have playing for them. you don't drop 45 on WSU, 42 on Oregon and 52 on UW in consecutive years playing slow. also would hazard it's dangerous to extrapolate to much EITHER way with EWU efficiency and pace with what we will do this year regardless of our QB and OL situations relative to last year for EWU (i think they had a returning true soph starter at QB--the guy that replaced Adams). Baldwin tends to tailor what he actually does with his O to his players strengths and they have stated that they haven't started the "customizing" yet. I think they said that will start this week or maybe next (think they said 2 weeks before UNC, but might be off)
OaktownBear;842860945 said:
Have to agree to disagree on this one.
FrankBear21;842860282 said:
You're going to like it.
NYCGOBEARS;842860291 said:
I just rewatched the whole series recently. Love that show.
LACalFan;842862153 said:
Is this the kind of series that takes a few episodes before it starts clicking? I'm 2 in, and so far feeling kind of meh about it.
NYCGOBEARS;842862157 said:
Yeah, it really grabs you about midway through season one.
HoopDreams;842863079 said:
so i guess its bowers?
moonpod;842860913 said:
O.....
as for EWU pace of play, it seems to vary tremendously depending on whom they play and who they have playing for them. .... Baldwin tends to tailor what he actually does with his O to his players strengths and they have stated that they haven't started the "customizing" yet. I think they said that will start this week or maybe next (think they said 2 weeks before UNC, but might be off)
I do agree that most likely we will have a slower pace of play than we had under Sonny, but I wouldn't be surprised to see our pace of play vary and I wouldn't be surprised if at least initially the offense didn't at least superficially look very similar to what we ran last year (it's the way the roster is structured)