Where will the sand volleyball courts go? Don't see them in that rendering.
Agree. The community space will just become a smaller version of Peoples Park, populated by druggies, vagrants, and mentally ill folks.oskirules said:
Conceptual schematic for People's Park released. I would propose to get rid of the community space, shift the buildings closer to the Telegraph side, and try to keep as many trees on the east side as possible.
http://www.berkeleyside.com/2018/05/11/its-not-just-peoples-park-that-will-see-housing-uc-berkeley-chancellor-vows-to-build-7500-beds-in-10-years
https://www.berkeleyside.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/05/peoples-park-preliminary-050918.pdf
Golden One said:Agree. The community space will just become a smaller version of Peoples Park, populated by druggies, vagrants, and mentally ill folks.oskirules said:
Conceptual schematic for People's Park released. I would propose to get rid of the community space, shift the buildings closer to the Telegraph side, and try to keep as many trees on the east side as possible.
http://www.berkeleyside.com/2018/05/11/its-not-just-peoples-park-that-will-see-housing-uc-berkeley-chancellor-vows-to-build-7500-beds-in-10-years
https://www.berkeleyside.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/05/peoples-park-preliminary-050918.pdf
Sebastabear said:I'll make you a deal. You and I go to the park and if the number of people who know who Mario Savio is (much less Dan Siegel) outnumber the number of people who try to sell us heroin I'll buy you a Top Dog. Hell I'll buy you all of the Top Dogs. Pretty sure my wallet will stay firmly in my pocket.okaydo said:Strykur said:
Recent students have no attachment to the Park and mostly despise it, the only people interested in thwarting this plan will be outside the campus and be enormously outnumbered by those in support of it, especially the students.
I believe the most "recent students" who were attached to the park are currently of retirement age.
(I'm the exception because, unlike my peers, as I've come to learn a lot about the history of the place, and got to know many of the park's central figures. And the people of the Telegraph Area Association, who were plagued by the park. I find it fascinating. I even went on a ridealong with the Berkeley PD as we visited the park late at night.)
bearlyamazing said:
While I'm glad we're finally putting this valuable piece of land to good use, to mix students and the mentally ill in such close proximity seems like a recipe for disaster.
You mean, as in, Eschleman?okaydo said:bearlyamazing said:
While I'm glad we're finally putting this valuable piece of land to good use, to mix students and the mentally ill in such close proximity seems like a recipe for disaster.
Eh, Unit 3 has existed for years in close proximity to the mentally ill.
oskirules said:
Since we recently heard the site for the new UC Hotel will probably used for student housing, I presume these pictures of the hotel design will now be scrapped.
http://www.weisbachad.com/hotel/
This was planned on the corner of Oxford and University Ave.
The hotel project has been put on hold, but per the Chancellor's recent interviews, it is still a development priority. As for for the neighborhood, it would be going up right next to a massive new housing development right next door. If you've gone passed this block recently, you'll see that all those buildings/businesses on the corner of Shattuck and University have been closed down in preparation for the new project.tequila4kapp said:
Is this going to be student housing or a hotel or both? Either way, the building is just okay but it doesn't fit in to the rest of the neighborhood at all. I guess that can become a trigger for change...otherwise it becomes a eyesore that people stay away from.
I'd be interested. We toured the units recently and they were, if anything, even grimmer than I remembered. Would be interested to see what they did with Blackwell. Thanks for the offer.CaliforniaEternal said:
For anyone that is interested, I can post pictures of the mostly-finished rooms inside the new Blackwell Hall dorm at Bancroft and Dana in a couple weeks. From what I've heard, they made the rooms pretty compact to maximize the number of beds in the building. I can't wait to see how the rooms there compare to Unit 1 where I lived.
Please do!CaliforniaEternal said:
For anyone that is interested, I can post pictures of the mostly-finished rooms inside the new Blackwell Hall dorm at Bancroft and Dana in a couple weeks. From what I've heard, they made the rooms pretty compact to maximize the number of beds in the building. I can't wait to see how the rooms there compare to Unit 1 where I lived.
Ridiculously ugly and utilitarian design. It's funny how USC and UCLA managed to incorporate their classic campus architecture in their new respective student housing and conference center, but we are stuck with the generic.oskirules said:
Since we recently heard the site for the new UC Hotel will probably used for student housing, I presume these pictures of the hotel design will now be scrapped.
http://www.weisbachad.com/hotel/
This was planned on the corner of Oxford and University Ave.
Imagine the surprise in Westwood that red brick and sandstone just happened to echo the history of the campus and create a sense of place.socaliganbear said:
Luskin looks like a conference center in a business park in literally any part of America. It just happens to use red brick.
Where is the building in the picture above? It looks a lot like the new Berkeley Way West on Shattuck Ave.socaliganbear said:
The school's "downtown" campus is all super modern. The bio sciences building, the giant new building next to it, the new BAM. This would actually fit in nicely.Another Bear said:
If that were on campus I could see the argument against the design. I'm guessing the university sees it as adjacent.
Red brick isn't a Cal thing. Looks like the civic center for a city of around 400k built in the late 90s/00s.
Yep, it's a new building at Harvard. And yes, it looks like our new building lol.oskirules said:Where is the building in the picture above? It looks a lot like the new Berkeley Way West on Shattuck Ave.socaliganbear said:
Holy smokes, it's a different architect, but they're the same guys who designed the Maximino Martinez Commons student housing on Channing.socaliganbear said:Yep, it's a new building at Harvard. And yes, it looks like our new building lol.oskirules said:Where is the building in the picture above? It looks a lot like the new Berkeley Way West on Shattuck Ave.socaliganbear said:
Maximo Martinez is a great example. A very cool building that isn't trying to recreate Harvard Square. I like that we're building and designing like the urban campus we are.oskirules said:Holy smokes, it's a different architect, but they're the same guys who designed the Maximino Martinez Commons student housing on Channing.socaliganbear said:Yep, it's a new building at Harvard. And yes, it looks like our new building lol.oskirules said:Where is the building in the picture above? It looks a lot like the new Berkeley Way West on Shattuck Ave.socaliganbear said:
https://behnisch.com/work/filter:chronological
A little of that imagination and design would go a long way with the new dorms at the corner.socaliganbear said:
Sensing a theme.... And it's cool.
socaliganbear said:
If you know Stanley Saitowitz (the lead architect) then this design makes sense. He does a lot of high end minimalist buildings with clean lines, white walls, glass etc. I don't like how it activates the sidewalk on Oxford, but overall, I like it.
Anyhow, will be interesting to see what happens with the site now.