It's a swipe but it's not factually incorrect. Cal could beat Texas for a decade straight -- football in Texas will always matter more than it does in California sans $C.TheSouseFamily said:
"I left Cal to experience bigger football", said Watson to ESPN via text.
I'll always wish a fellow Cal grad the best of luck, but that was an unnecessary swipe, especially when he beat Texas twice during his time at Cal.
http://www.espn.com/college-football/story/_/id/23427295/former-cal-golden-bears-rb-tre-watson-joining-texas-longhorns-graduate-transfer
I don't think his statement is analogous to your first one. It's more like "I left my first wife for better sex." It hurts, even if true. However, we appear to be on a massive upswing, and I think we're going to be pretty awesome next year. Also, I don't recall Tre being an impact player, anyway, so I hope he gets much better or he's going to have difficulty even getting on the field.TheSouseFamily said:
You're right, packawana. And it's not THAT big of a deal. I assure you my feelings aren't hurt here. I just think the message could have been better if framed more positively.
"I'm marrying my second wife because she's the most intelligent, gorgeous and kind person I've ever met" sounds much better than "I left my first wife because she was quite average looking, a bit dense and kinda mean if I'm being totally honest."
He was very good by the end of 2016. Probably our best back at that point. His loss created depth issues. Luckily coaches gave Laird a chance last year. Overall we'll be OK. Good luck to him.bearsandgiants said:I don't think his statement is analogous to your first one. It's more like "I left my first wife for better sex." It hurts, even if true. However, we appear to be on a massive upswing, and I think we're going to be pretty awesome next year. Also, I don't recall Tre being an impact player, anyway, so I hope he gets much better or he's going to have difficulty even getting on the field.TheSouseFamily said:
You're right, packawana. And it's not THAT big of a deal. I assure you my feelings aren't hurt here. I just think the message could have been better if framed more positively.
"I'm marrying my second wife because she's the most intelligent, gorgeous and kind person I've ever met" sounds much better than "I left my first wife because she was quite average looking, a bit dense and kinda mean if I'm being totally honest."
I care. Not a whole lot, to be clear, but enough to write this short post. Tre Watson was a good Golden Bear who graduated and I wish him well, but he could have worded that differently. If he doesn't crack the RB rotation as a Longhorn, I'm not gonna gloat, but I won't feel bad either.socaliganbear said:
It's clearly poor form, but who cares. We've got a solid season ahead of us, let him move on however he feels he needs to.
He graduated.Big C said:I care. Not a whole lot, to be clear, but enough to write this short post. Tre Watson was a good Golden Bear who graduated and I wish him well, but he could have worded that differently. If he doesn't crack the RB rotation as a Longhorn, I'm not gonna gloat, but I won't feel bad either.socaliganbear said:
It's clearly poor form, but who cares. We've got a solid season ahead of us, let him move on however he feels he needs to.
Reading the tea leaves, I'm guessing he and the current staff didn't totally "click". Or, it could just be accepted at face value: He saw a chance to have his BA from Cal and begin some free grad work at a "major" football school and thought that would be cool. Maybe he wasn't going to get into a grad program here and also didn't see an NFL future.
Am I sort of contradicting myself here? Oh well...
Yah, but he ain't lying. With the way Cal treats its major sports, I don't blame him. Cal keeps promising to step but but never does. I don't blame the athletes who can do so from getting a taste of a football program at a university that actually cares about winning. Over thirty years as a Cal fan, it's become pretty obvious Cal doesn't care and never will.TheSouseFamily said:
"I left Cal to experience bigger football", said Watson to ESPN via text.
I'll always wish a fellow Cal grad the best of luck, but that was an unnecessary swipe, especially when he beat Texas twice during his time at Cal.
http://www.espn.com/college-football/story/_/id/23427295/former-cal-golden-bears-rb-tre-watson-joining-texas-longhorns-graduate-transfer
Too many Cal fans have accepted that Cal is a loser program and expect the student-athletes to share their attitude in the name of "loyalty."71Bear said:He graduated.Big C said:I care. Not a whole lot, to be clear, but enough to write this short post. Tre Watson was a good Golden Bear who graduated and I wish him well, but he could have worded that differently. If he doesn't crack the RB rotation as a Longhorn, I'm not gonna gloat, but I won't feel bad either.socaliganbear said:
It's clearly poor form, but who cares. We've got a solid season ahead of us, let him move on however he feels he needs to.
Reading the tea leaves, I'm guessing he and the current staff didn't totally "click". Or, it could just be accepted at face value: He saw a chance to have his BA from Cal and begin some free grad work at a "major" football school and thought that would be cool. Maybe he wasn't going to get into a grad program here and also didn't see an NFL future.
Am I sort of contradicting myself here? Oh well...
He told the truth.
If you don't like what he said, do something about it - start winning.
It's kinda like when teams whine about someone pouring it on at the end of a lopsided game. If you don't like it, do something about it. It isn't the better team's problem, it is the crappy team's problem.
In essence, I have no problem with what he said because he was right. I prefer the honest, frank approach.
Agreed, he could have chosen his words more carefully, but it could have been worse. He could have said I'm going to a better program, better school, or my dream football school. whatever. Best of luck to him.TheSouseFamily said:
Was never about being Tre being right. Or being honest or frank. Or fans expecting loyalty. Or fans not wishing the kid well and being thankful for his contributions. Or lamenting the state of our own program. It was simply about tact. That's it. Anyway, moving on....
^ ^ ^ Yup, it's not a huge deal. Just a minor thing. ^ ^ ^TheSouseFamily said:
Was never about being Tre being right. Or being honest or frank. Or fans expecting loyalty. Or fans not wishing the kid well and being thankful for his contributions. Or lamenting the state of our own program. It was simply about tact. That's it. Anyway, moving on....
You mean the ones about Cal always sucking and being real about it?going4roses said:
Hmm k @ some of the comments
This has absolutely nothing to do with winning or losing games.71Bear said:He graduated.Big C said:I care. Not a whole lot, to be clear, but enough to write this short post. Tre Watson was a good Golden Bear who graduated and I wish him well, but he could have worded that differently. If he doesn't crack the RB rotation as a Longhorn, I'm not gonna gloat, but I won't feel bad either.socaliganbear said:
It's clearly poor form, but who cares. We've got a solid season ahead of us, let him move on however he feels he needs to.
Reading the tea leaves, I'm guessing he and the current staff didn't totally "click". Or, it could just be accepted at face value: He saw a chance to have his BA from Cal and begin some free grad work at a "major" football school and thought that would be cool. Maybe he wasn't going to get into a grad program here and also didn't see an NFL future.
Am I sort of contradicting myself here? Oh well...
He told the truth.
If you don't like what he said, do something about it - start winning.
It's kinda like when teams whine about someone pouring it on at the end of a lopsided game. If you don't like it, do something about it. It isn't the better team's problem, it is the crappy team's problem.
In essence, I have no problem with what he said because he was right. I prefer the honest, frank approach.
No one is "putting down" Tre, only his choice of words. Meanwhile, you're putting down Cal and their fans.Uthaithani said:Too many Cal fans have accepted that Cal is a loser program and expect the student-athletes to share their attitude in the name of "loyalty."71Bear said:He graduated.Big C said:I care. Not a whole lot, to be clear, but enough to write this short post. Tre Watson was a good Golden Bear who graduated and I wish him well, but he could have worded that differently. If he doesn't crack the RB rotation as a Longhorn, I'm not gonna gloat, but I won't feel bad either.socaliganbear said:
It's clearly poor form, but who cares. We've got a solid season ahead of us, let him move on however he feels he needs to.
Reading the tea leaves, I'm guessing he and the current staff didn't totally "click". Or, it could just be accepted at face value: He saw a chance to have his BA from Cal and begin some free grad work at a "major" football school and thought that would be cool. Maybe he wasn't going to get into a grad program here and also didn't see an NFL future.
Am I sort of contradicting myself here? Oh well...
He told the truth.
If you don't like what he said, do something about it - start winning.
It's kinda like when teams whine about someone pouring it on at the end of a lopsided game. If you don't like it, do something about it. It isn't the better team's problem, it is the crappy team's problem.
In essence, I have no problem with what he said because he was right. I prefer the honest, frank approach.
What you say is 100% true. Fans of a school that doesn't win (and does nothing to change that) shouldn't put down student athletes who choose other schools because they do want to win. Amazing at it may seem to a lot of Cal fans, WINNING is a big deal to a lot of athletes and fans. Especially the good ones.
flounder said:
Tre is a grown man and was keeping it real. Let's do the same, he's was a decent running back with a torn ACL who got passed up by a walk-on. Only thing that matters about him at this point is that he helped the APR.
If we like the honest, frank approach, I'm fine with that. I have no ill will. But the flip side is the honest approach isn't one way and it isn't only to our detriment. The honest truth is he got injured and while injured he lost his job to our walk on third string running back, and that most likely also factored into his decision to leave. I would have liked to keep him as a backup, but he was a backup at this point, so it wasn't a loss we couldn't bear. If a big program like Texas wants to sign our backups, good for them. If he doesn't like me saying that, he should have beat out the walk on.71Bear said:He graduated.Big C said:I care. Not a whole lot, to be clear, but enough to write this short post. Tre Watson was a good Golden Bear who graduated and I wish him well, but he could have worded that differently. If he doesn't crack the RB rotation as a Longhorn, I'm not gonna gloat, but I won't feel bad either.socaliganbear said:
It's clearly poor form, but who cares. We've got a solid season ahead of us, let him move on however he feels he needs to.
Reading the tea leaves, I'm guessing he and the current staff didn't totally "click". Or, it could just be accepted at face value: He saw a chance to have his BA from Cal and begin some free grad work at a "major" football school and thought that would be cool. Maybe he wasn't going to get into a grad program here and also didn't see an NFL future.
Am I sort of contradicting myself here? Oh well...
He told the truth.
If you don't like what he said, do something about it - start winning.
It's kinda like when teams whine about someone pouring it on at the end of a lopsided game. If you don't like it, do something about it. It isn't the better team's problem, it is the crappy team's problem.
In essence, I have no problem with what he said because he was right. I prefer the honest, frank approach.
71Bear said:He graduated.Big C said:I care. Not a whole lot, to be clear, but enough to write this short post. Tre Watson was a good Golden Bear who graduated and I wish him well, but he could have worded that differently. If he doesn't crack the RB rotation as a Longhorn, I'm not gonna gloat, but I won't feel bad either.socaliganbear said:
It's clearly poor form, but who cares. We've got a solid season ahead of us, let him move on however he feels he needs to.
Reading the tea leaves, I'm guessing he and the current staff didn't totally "click". Or, it could just be accepted at face value: He saw a chance to have his BA from Cal and begin some free grad work at a "major" football school and thought that would be cool. Maybe he wasn't going to get into a grad program here and also didn't see an NFL future.
Am I sort of contradicting myself here? Oh well...
He told the truth.
If you don't like what he said, do something about it - start winning.
It's kinda like when teams whine about someone pouring it on at the end of a lopsided game. If you don't like it, do something about it. It isn't the better team's problem, it is the crappy team's problem.
In essence, I have no problem with what he said because he was right. I prefer the honest, frank approach.
OaktownBear said:If we like the honest, frank approach, I'm fine with that. I have no ill will. But the flip side is the honest approach isn't one way and it isn't only to our detriment. The honest truth is he got injured and while injured he lost his job to our walk on third string running back, and that most likely also factored into his decision to leave. I would have liked to keep him as a backup, but he was a backup at this point, so it wasn't a loss we couldn't bear. If a big program like Texas wants to sign our backups, good for them. If he doesn't like me saying that, he should have beat out the walk on.71Bear said:He graduated.Big C said:I care. Not a whole lot, to be clear, but enough to write this short post. Tre Watson was a good Golden Bear who graduated and I wish him well, but he could have worded that differently. If he doesn't crack the RB rotation as a Longhorn, I'm not gonna gloat, but I won't feel bad either.socaliganbear said:
It's clearly poor form, but who cares. We've got a solid season ahead of us, let him move on however he feels he needs to.
Reading the tea leaves, I'm guessing he and the current staff didn't totally "click". Or, it could just be accepted at face value: He saw a chance to have his BA from Cal and begin some free grad work at a "major" football school and thought that would be cool. Maybe he wasn't going to get into a grad program here and also didn't see an NFL future.
Am I sort of contradicting myself here? Oh well...
He told the truth.
If you don't like what he said, do something about it - start winning.
It's kinda like when teams whine about someone pouring it on at the end of a lopsided game. If you don't like it, do something about it. It isn't the better team's problem, it is the crappy team's problem.
In essence, I have no problem with what he said because he was right. I prefer the honest, frank approach.
I do have to say, I think if somebody here had responded when he announced his transfer with something like "Good. It opens up a schollie. He was a backup that got beat out by a walk on. We don't need him". That person would have been called a jerk by a lot of people here for telling the truth.
Actually, I read the article more carefully and I have to change my response. I don't think he told the truth. I don't think he kept it real. Had he merely said Texas was a bigger football experience than Cal, that might have been true. He said he left Cal because he wanted a bigger football experience. Sorry. I call BS. He left Cal because he lost his job. Texas' running game sucked last year and they lost their best runner. At best his statement was a half truth, leaving out the half that was uncomfortable for him - that he lost his job and Texas provided an opportunity he did not have at Cal.OaktownBear said:71Bear said:He graduated.Big C said:I care. Not a whole lot, to be clear, but enough to write this short post. Tre Watson was a good Golden Bear who graduated and I wish him well, but he could have worded that differently. If he doesn't crack the RB rotation as a Longhorn, I'm not gonna gloat, but I won't feel bad either.socaliganbear said:
It's clearly poor form, but who cares. We've got a solid season ahead of us, let him move on however he feels he needs to.
Reading the tea leaves, I'm guessing he and the current staff didn't totally "click". Or, it could just be accepted at face value: He saw a chance to have his BA from Cal and begin some free grad work at a "major" football school and thought that would be cool. Maybe he wasn't going to get into a grad program here and also didn't see an NFL future.
Am I sort of contradicting myself here? Oh well...
He told the truth.
If you don't like what he said, do something about it - start winning.
It's kinda like when teams whine about someone pouring it on at the end of a lopsided game. If you don't like it, do something about it. It isn't the better team's problem, it is the crappy team's problem.
In essence, I have no problem with what he said because he was right. I prefer the honest, frank approach.
packawana said:OaktownBear said:If we like the honest, frank approach, I'm fine with that. I have no ill will. But the flip side is the honest approach isn't one way and it isn't only to our detriment. The honest truth is he got injured and while injured he lost his job to our walk on third string running back, and that most likely also factored into his decision to leave. I would have liked to keep him as a backup, but he was a backup at this point, so it wasn't a loss we couldn't bear. If a big program like Texas wants to sign our backups, good for them. If he doesn't like me saying that, he should have beat out the walk on.71Bear said:He graduated.Big C said:I care. Not a whole lot, to be clear, but enough to write this short post. Tre Watson was a good Golden Bear who graduated and I wish him well, but he could have worded that differently. If he doesn't crack the RB rotation as a Longhorn, I'm not gonna gloat, but I won't feel bad either.socaliganbear said:
It's clearly poor form, but who cares. We've got a solid season ahead of us, let him move on however he feels he needs to.
Reading the tea leaves, I'm guessing he and the current staff didn't totally "click". Or, it could just be accepted at face value: He saw a chance to have his BA from Cal and begin some free grad work at a "major" football school and thought that would be cool. Maybe he wasn't going to get into a grad program here and also didn't see an NFL future.
Am I sort of contradicting myself here? Oh well...
He told the truth.
If you don't like what he said, do something about it - start winning.
It's kinda like when teams whine about someone pouring it on at the end of a lopsided game. If you don't like it, do something about it. It isn't the better team's problem, it is the crappy team's problem.
In essence, I have no problem with what he said because he was right. I prefer the honest, frank approach.
I do have to say, I think if somebody here had responded when he announced his transfer with something like "Good. It opens up a schollie. He was a backup that got beat out by a walk on. We don't need him". That person would have been called a jerk by a lot of people here for telling the truth.
I mean that would be factually incorrect. He wasn't a backup, and not having him makes our depth far more questionable in that position. What he said was factual.
As Laird began to really emerge last season, I could sort of envision this playing out the way it did. If Watson stayed and Laird stayed healthy, splitting time was about the best TW could hope for, rather than being THE feature back, which is probably what he thought he had coming to him..OaktownBear said:packawana said:OaktownBear said:If we like the honest, frank approach, I'm fine with that. I have no ill will. But the flip side is the honest approach isn't one way and it isn't only to our detriment. The honest truth is he got injured and while injured he lost his job to our walk on third string running back, and that most likely also factored into his decision to leave. I would have liked to keep him as a backup, but he was a backup at this point, so it wasn't a loss we couldn't bear. If a big program like Texas wants to sign our backups, good for them. If he doesn't like me saying that, he should have beat out the walk on.71Bear said:He graduated.Big C said:I care. Not a whole lot, to be clear, but enough to write this short post. Tre Watson was a good Golden Bear who graduated and I wish him well, but he could have worded that differently. If he doesn't crack the RB rotation as a Longhorn, I'm not gonna gloat, but I won't feel bad either.socaliganbear said:
It's clearly poor form, but who cares. We've got a solid season ahead of us, let him move on however he feels he needs to.
Reading the tea leaves, I'm guessing he and the current staff didn't totally "click". Or, it could just be accepted at face value: He saw a chance to have his BA from Cal and begin some free grad work at a "major" football school and thought that would be cool. Maybe he wasn't going to get into a grad program here and also didn't see an NFL future.
Am I sort of contradicting myself here? Oh well...
He told the truth.
If you don't like what he said, do something about it - start winning.
It's kinda like when teams whine about someone pouring it on at the end of a lopsided game. If you don't like it, do something about it. It isn't the better team's problem, it is the crappy team's problem.
In essence, I have no problem with what he said because he was right. I prefer the honest, frank approach.
I do have to say, I think if somebody here had responded when he announced his transfer with something like "Good. It opens up a schollie. He was a backup that got beat out by a walk on. We don't need him". That person would have been called a jerk by a lot of people here for telling the truth.
I mean that would be factually incorrect. He wasn't a backup, and not having him makes our depth far more questionable in that position. What he said was factual.
Laird is the starter. He is the backup. How is that incorrect?
