Saban might clean house. If Tosh goes, hopefully the California pipeline to Alabama will go with it.
Yeah, I wouldn't get your hopes uphotlanta said:
Saban might clean house. If Tosh goes, hopefully the California pipeline to Alabama will go with it.
I agree. Bama just got beaten by a team that was on a mission. Saban will get a chance to turn the tables in the title game next year when they play again.Yogi Bear said:Yeah, I wouldn't get your hopes uphotlanta said:
Saban might clean house. If Tosh goes, hopefully the California pipeline to Alabama will go with it.
DWM81 said:
Tosh will likely never return to Cal...
He may very well be correct. And he may have heard it from someone qualified to tell him as much. But I don't know that Finebaum knows Xs and Os in order to be qualified to make this assessment.Bear8 said:
I was a bit shocked this morning on the ESPN show "Get Up," hosted by Mike Greenberg. Mike was interviewing Paul Finebaum on the game. If you don't know, Finebaum is the sports broadcaster/journalist closest to the Bama football program and something of a rooter for Sabin. Quoting Finebaum as close as I can: "Tosh Lupoi is the worst defensive coordinator that Saban has ever had." He then cited several previous DCs such as Jeremy Pruitt, Kirby Smart and Dabo Swinney.
Us Cal fans knew that Tosh was probably above his pay grade as DC, but to hear it from a knowledgeable insider such as Finebaum was something of a shock. It should also quiet those on this Board who want to bring him back and reward Lupoi with the DC job.
GMP said:He may very well be correct. And he may have heard it from someone qualified to tell him as much. But I don't know that Finebaum knows Xs and Os in order to be qualified to make this assessment.Bear8 said:
I was a bit shocked this morning on the ESPN show "Get Up," hosted by Mike Greenberg. Mike was interviewing Paul Finebaum on the game. If you don't know, Finebaum is the sports broadcaster/journalist closest to the Bama football program and something of a rooter for Sabin. Quoting Finebaum as close as I can: "Tosh Lupoi is the worst defensive coordinator that Saban has ever had." He then cited several previous DCs such as Jeremy Pruitt, Kirby Smart and Dabo Swinney.
Us Cal fans knew that Tosh was probably above his pay grade as DC, but to hear it from a knowledgeable insider such as Finebaum was something of a shock. It should also quiet those on this Board who want to bring him back and reward Lupoi with the DC job.
Worst Saban has had isnt really a great knock. I mean, the poorest billionaire is still a billionaire.Bear8 said:
I was a bit shocked this morning on the ESPN show "Get Up," hosted by Mike Greenberg. Mike was interviewing Paul Finebaum on the game. If you don't know, Finebaum is the sports broadcaster/journalist closest to the Bama football program and something of a rooter for Sabin. Quoting Finebaum as close as I can: "Tosh Lupoi is the worst defensive coordinator that Saban has ever had." He then cited several previous DCs such as Jeremy Pruitt, Kirby Smart and Dabo Swinney.
Us Cal fans knew that Tosh was probably above his pay grade as DC, but to hear it from a knowledgeable insider such as Finebaum was something of a shock. It should also quiet those on this Board who want to bring him back and reward Lupoi with the DC job.
14 games isnt good enough for Cal.82gradDLSdad said:GMP said:He may very well be correct. And he may have heard it from someone qualified to tell him as much. But I don't know that Finebaum knows Xs and Os in order to be qualified to make this assessment.Bear8 said:
I was a bit shocked this morning on the ESPN show "Get Up," hosted by Mike Greenberg. Mike was interviewing Paul Finebaum on the game. If you don't know, Finebaum is the sports broadcaster/journalist closest to the Bama football program and something of a rooter for Sabin. Quoting Finebaum as close as I can: "Tosh Lupoi is the worst defensive coordinator that Saban has ever had." He then cited several previous DCs such as Jeremy Pruitt, Kirby Smart and Dabo Swinney.
Us Cal fans knew that Tosh was probably above his pay grade as DC, but to hear it from a knowledgeable insider such as Finebaum was something of a shock. It should also quiet those on this Board who want to bring him back and reward Lupoi with the DC job.
A college coach has to be judged on BOTH his ability to recruit and coach. Tosh can certainly recruit, possibly better than anyone in college football. Maybe he is a 'minus' coach but in total he's pretty good. And Alabama did beat every team it played minus 1. I'd take him.
Dabo was an assistant at Bama not a coordinator.LunchTime said:Worst Saban has had isnt really a great knock. I mean, the poorest billionaire is still a billionaire.Bear8 said:
I was a bit shocked this morning on the ESPN show "Get Up," hosted by Mike Greenberg. Mike was interviewing Paul Finebaum on the game. If you don't know, Finebaum is the sports broadcaster/journalist closest to the Bama football program and something of a rooter for Sabin. Quoting Finebaum as close as I can: "Tosh Lupoi is the worst defensive coordinator that Saban has ever had." He then cited several previous DCs such as Jeremy Pruitt, Kirby Smart and Dabo Swinney.
Us Cal fans knew that Tosh was probably above his pay grade as DC, but to hear it from a knowledgeable insider such as Finebaum was something of a shock. It should also quiet those on this Board who want to bring him back and reward Lupoi with the DC job.
Dabo wasnt DC. Either you are mistaken, I am, or Finebaum is.
WR71Bear said:Dabo was an assistant at Bama not a coordinator.LunchTime said:Worst Saban has had isnt really a great knock. I mean, the poorest billionaire is still a billionaire.Bear8 said:
I was a bit shocked this morning on the ESPN show "Get Up," hosted by Mike Greenberg. Mike was interviewing Paul Finebaum on the game. If you don't know, Finebaum is the sports broadcaster/journalist closest to the Bama football program and something of a rooter for Sabin. Quoting Finebaum as close as I can: "Tosh Lupoi is the worst defensive coordinator that Saban has ever had." He then cited several previous DCs such as Jeremy Pruitt, Kirby Smart and Dabo Swinney.
Us Cal fans knew that Tosh was probably above his pay grade as DC, but to hear it from a knowledgeable insider such as Finebaum was something of a shock. It should also quiet those on this Board who want to bring him back and reward Lupoi with the DC job.
Dabo wasnt DC. Either you are mistaken, I am, or Finebaum is.
Yet they've managed to lose by nearly 40 pts with a bunch of first rounders... This shows how weak Tosh is as a gameday, X&Os DC. His recruiting has been so stellar that he's leveraged himself into the DC gig, and put himself in a position where he's neutralized all that talent he's recruited, which I think is hilarious. In prior years he couldn't do that kind of damage as merely a position coach.hotlanta said:
They also have future pros at each position.
Tosh will likely never return to Cal and certainly not while Wilcox is HC (Dykes wanted Tosh, Wilcox put the kabosh on that - no way a good friend of JT hires his nemesis)DWM81 said:
Tosh may be demoted from Co-DC but he will be on the ALA Staff next year. Saban need his elite recruiting skills. Tosh will likely never return to Cal...
Alabama never really recruited the West Coast until Tosh showed up. Since then, they have taken some of the west's best players to the south and the program has taken its success to another level.Uthaithani said:Tosh will likely never return to Cal and certainly not while Wilcox is HC (Dykes wanted Tosh, Wilcox put the kabosh on that - no way a good friend of JT hires his nemesis)DWM81 said:
Tosh may be demoted from Co-DC but he will be on the ALA Staff next year. Saban need his elite recruiting skills. Tosh will likely never return to Cal...
Saban and Bama don't need Tosh's help to recruit. That doesn't mean Saban will fire him over one loss, but regardless he isn't coming to Cal. And whether he's in Bama or not, they're going to get the top players. They did fine recruiting before Tosh and will recruit well when Tosh is gone, too.
Lol Wilcox tried to hire Tosh.Uthaithani said:Tosh will likely never return to Cal and certainly not while Wilcox is HC (Dykes wanted Tosh, Wilcox put the kabosh on that - no way a good friend of JT hires his nemesis)DWM81 said:
Tosh may be demoted from Co-DC but he will be on the ALA Staff next year. Saban need his elite recruiting skills. Tosh will likely never return to Cal...
Saban and Bama don't need Tosh's help to recruit. That doesn't mean Saban will fire him over one loss, but regardless he isn't coming to Cal. And whether he's in Bama or not, they're going to get the top players. They did fine recruiting before Tosh and will recruit well when Tosh is gone, too.
double lol, wilcox didn't just try to get tosh at Cal last year, he actually did hire him at UW.socaliganbear said:Lol Wilcox tried to hire Tosh.Uthaithani said:Tosh will likely never return to Cal and certainly not while Wilcox is HC (Dykes wanted Tosh, Wilcox put the kabosh on that - no way a good friend of JT hires his nemesis)DWM81 said:
Tosh may be demoted from Co-DC but he will be on the ALA Staff next year. Saban need his elite recruiting skills. Tosh will likely never return to Cal...
Saban and Bama don't need Tosh's help to recruit. That doesn't mean Saban will fire him over one loss, but regardless he isn't coming to Cal. And whether he's in Bama or not, they're going to get the top players. They did fine recruiting before Tosh and will recruit well when Tosh is gone, too.
82gradDLSdad said:GMP said:He may very well be correct. And he may have heard it from someone qualified to tell him as much. But I don't know that Finebaum knows Xs and Os in order to be qualified to make this assessment.Bear8 said:
I was a bit shocked this morning on the ESPN show "Get Up," hosted by Mike Greenberg. Mike was interviewing Paul Finebaum on the game. If you don't know, Finebaum is the sports broadcaster/journalist closest to the Bama football program and something of a rooter for Sabin. Quoting Finebaum as close as I can: "Tosh Lupoi is the worst defensive coordinator that Saban has ever had." He then cited several previous DCs such as Jeremy Pruitt, Kirby Smart and Dabo Swinney.
Us Cal fans knew that Tosh was probably above his pay grade as DC, but to hear it from a knowledgeable insider such as Finebaum was something of a shock. It should also quiet those on this Board who want to bring him back and reward Lupoi with the DC job.
A college coach has to be judged on BOTH his ability to recruit and coach. Tosh can certainly recruit, possibly better than anyone in college football. Maybe he is a 'minus' coach but in total he's pretty good. And Alabama did beat every team it played minus 1. I'd take him.
Yeah, I wouldn't get my hopes up.71Bear said:I agree. Bama just got beaten by a team that was on a mission. Saban will get a chance to turn the tables in the title game next year when they play again.Yogi Bear said:Yeah, I wouldn't get your hopes uphotlanta said:
Saban might clean house. If Tosh goes, hopefully the California pipeline to Alabama will go with it.
Cal89 said:
We all realize Clemson has one of the best offenses, but several of their opponents contained them better than Alabama, and not just Notre Dame....
I believe it was passing yards and yards per attempt that I was looking at with respect to ND. More noteworthy were the likes of Ga Tech and Syracuse Ds, with their rosters of top 40 and top 60 classes respectively. Those Ds with much less recruited talent did better than Alabama's against Clemson. The upside of good coaching... and our D is very much in that discussion (over-delivering). Texas A&M's D's also did relatively better.wifeisafurd said:Cal89 said:
We all realize Clemson has one of the best offenses, but several of their opponents contained them better than Alabama, and not just Notre Dame....
Versus Notre Dame
523 yards, 30 points scored, Lawrence pulled for most of 4th quarter
Versus Alabama
482 yards, 37 points scored. Lawrence pulled in last set of downs
That really doesn't look like better containment.
I'm not sure what schedule comparisons get you. Cal held WSU to 19 points. Does that mean Colorado, Arizona and UCLA had the better offenses? Too many variables to consider. If you subtract the score for the extra game, Alabama's defense was the 3rd best defense for Bama over the last 5 years in terms of points yielded. Not badwhen you consider how Alabama has played the last 5 years.
Bear8 said:
I was a bit shocked this morning on the ESPN show "Get Up," hosted by Mike Greenberg. Mike was interviewing Paul Finebaum on the game. If you don't know, Finebaum is the sports broadcaster/journalist closest to the Bama football program and something of a rooter for Sabin. Quoting Finebaum as close as I can: "Tosh Lupoi is the worst defensive coordinator that Saban has ever had." He then cited several previous DCs such as Jeremy Pruitt, Kirby Smart and Dabo Swinney.
Us Cal fans knew that Tosh was probably above his pay grade as DC, but to hear it from a knowledgeable insider such as Finebaum was something of a shock. It should also quiet those on this Board who want to bring him back and reward Lupoi with the DC job.
hotlanta said:
They also have future pros at each position.
The other guys also had a lot of experience walking into the job that Tosh doesn't. I suspect Saban knows what he is doing, and he keeps Lupoi around until Tosh's turn to get a big time head coach job. See the article below.tim94501 said:Bear8 said:
I was a bit shocked this morning on the ESPN show "Get Up," hosted by Mike Greenberg. Mike was interviewing Paul Finebaum on the game. If you don't know, Finebaum is the sports broadcaster/journalist closest to the Bama football program and something of a rooter for Sabin. Quoting Finebaum as close as I can: "Tosh Lupoi is the worst defensive coordinator that Saban has ever had." He then cited several previous DCs such as Jeremy Pruitt, Kirby Smart and Dabo Swinney.
Us Cal fans knew that Tosh was probably above his pay grade as DC, but to hear it from a knowledgeable insider such as Finebaum was something of a shock. It should also quiet those on this Board who want to bring him back and reward Lupoi with the DC job.
The 3 other guys you are the head coach at Tennessee the head coach at Georgia and the guy that just OWNED Saban. No **** they are better than tosh lol
I think you meant the guy that is 2-2 v. Saban over the last four years....tim94501 said:Bear8 said:
I was a bit shocked this morning on the ESPN show "Get Up," hosted by Mike Greenberg. Mike was interviewing Paul Finebaum on the game. If you don't know, Finebaum is the sports broadcaster/journalist closest to the Bama football program and something of a rooter for Sabin. Quoting Finebaum as close as I can: "Tosh Lupoi is the worst defensive coordinator that Saban has ever had." He then cited several previous DCs such as Jeremy Pruitt, Kirby Smart and Dabo Swinney.
Us Cal fans knew that Tosh was probably above his pay grade as DC, but to hear it from a knowledgeable insider such as Finebaum was something of a shock. It should also quiet those on this Board who want to bring him back and reward Lupoi with the DC job.
The 3 other guys you are the head coach at Tennessee the head coach at Georgia and the guy that just OWNED Saban. No **** they are better than tosh lol