The Pac-12 leaving Levi's Stadium is (obviously) a great ideattps://www.sbnation.com/college-football/2019/1/25/18197441/pac-12-title-game-levis-stadium-2020-las-vegas?

Good riddance. Anywhere is better than the lousy 49ers stadium.

The choices :

wifeisafurd said:

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The Pac-12 leaving Levi's Stadium is (obviously) a great ideattps://www.sbnation.com/college-football/2019/1/25/18197441/pac-12-title-game-levis-stadium-2020-las-vegas?

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Yeah. The CFP title game was a success at Levi's. The P12 title game was a failure. I think that is more an indictment of the P12 than Levi's.

Having said that, Las Vegas is the perfect site for the P12 championship game. I hope they set up a game between the P12 and the SEC as the season opener like Arlington, TX and Atlanta have done.

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Good riddance. Anywhere is better than the lousy 49ers stadium.

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Yep. Levi's is the worst stadium in the NFL, and certainly the ugliest from the outside. I'm not counting the Oakland Coliseum, because it's essentially done as a pro football venue.

Can Cal play at least once in Levis stadium for the p12 title game? That little thing is all i ask for...

BTW, there is no traffic in Santa Clara on a Saturday.

There's a f-ton of traffic in LA on a Friday.

I would vote for Vegas. it is a more neutral site and flights are available probably for a reasonable price many times a day from all Pac 12 team cities. Nice destination city as well for alternative entertainment. Finally, although not sure where Raiders stadium will be, most places are close to the airport for rideshare or taxi transportation

Vegas. Gotta be Vegas.

ColoradoBear said:

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Can Cal play at least once in Levis stadium for the p12 title game? That little thing is all i ask for...

BTW, there is no traffic in Santa Clara on a Saturday.

There's a f-ton of traffic in LA on a Friday.

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That would require Cal playing in the title game next year because starting in 2020 it will be in Vegas. Hence, it will not be happening. Have you seen our offensive coaching staff/returning talent? This cycle will pass, just like all the other iterations of the conference/bowl system that have passed Cal by without any success.

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I would vote for Vegas. it is a more neutral site and flights are available probably for a reasonable price many times a day from all Pac 12 team cities. Nice destination city as well for alternative entertainment. Finally, although not sure where Raiders stadium will be, most places are close to the airport for rideshare or taxi transportation

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The stadium will be on the west side of I-15, with Mandalay Bay opposite to it on the east side of the freeway.

My heart says Vegas, but my head says LA. Cal in the P12 CG in LA would be so sweet. With so many alums in LA, and so many within driving distance, it would practically be a home game against any non-LA team.

Plus, in three years there will be two major light rail lines near LA Stadium. The new Crenshaw Line will stop about a mile away on the north. Added with the existing Green Line south of the stadium, getting to the game will be a little easier.

Of course, the fact that I live in LA is the most compelling reason. Can't beat staying at home and traveling a few miles. Helps save $ for the bowl game.

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My heart says Vegas, but my head says LA. Cal in the P12 CG in LA would be so sweet. With so many alums in LA, and so many within driving distance, it would practically be a home game against any non-LA team.

Plus, in three years there will be two major light rail lines near LA Stadium. The new Crenshaw Line will stop about a mile away on the north. Added with the existing Green Line south of the stadium, getting to the game will be a little easier.

Of course, the fact that I live in LA is the most compelling reason. Can't beat staying at home and traveling a few miles. Helps save $ for the bowl game.

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Yes we need Fyght4Cal as our alumni hype man in LA. He gives xultaif a run for his money, with more smack talk. I loved how he got under the SC DJ's skin at the Lyon Center for the Cal/SC game.

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My heart says Vegas, but my head says LA. Cal in the P12 CG in LA would be so sweet. With so many alums in LA, and so many within driving distance, it would practically be a home game against any non-LA team.

Plus, in three years there will be two major light rail lines near LA Stadium. The new Crenshaw Line will stop about a mile away on the north. Added with the existing Green Line south of the stadium, getting to the game will be a little easier.

Of course, the fact that I live in LA is the most compelling reason. Can't beat staying at home and traveling a few miles. Helps save $ for the bowl game.

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Yes we need Fyght4Cal as our alumni hype man in LA. He gives xultaif a run for his money, with more smack talk. I loved how he got under the SC DJ's skin at the Lyon Center for the Cal/SC game.

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While LA/SoCal is home, I would gladly make the short drive to Vegas when Cal is in the CG.

Vegas, and I'm not sure it's even close

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My heart says Vegas, but my head says LA. Cal in the P12 CG in LA would be so sweet. With so many alums in LA, and so many within driving distance, it would practically be a home game against any non-LA team.

Plus, in three years there will be two major light rail lines near LA Stadium. The new Crenshaw Line will stop about a mile away on the north. Added with the existing Green Line south of the stadium, getting to the game will be a little easier.

Of course, the fact that I live in LA is the most compelling reason. Can't beat staying at home and traveling a few miles. Helps save $ for the bowl game.

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Yes we need Fyght4Cal as our alumni hype man in LA. He gives xultaif a run for his money, with more smack talk. I loved how he got under the SC DJ's skin at the Lyon Center for the Cal/SC game.

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LOL. Thanks KAB. DJ Mal-Ski, the SC DJ, and I have had this act going for about 4 years now. We go at it at both in Men's and Women's. It's a kick. We both give as good as we get.

But be sure LA or Vegas, Oski willing, I'll be at the P12CG. Ken and I will do our best to get whatever stadium rocking and the Bears rolling. Go Bears!

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I would vote for Vegas. it is a more neutral site and flights are available probably for a reasonable price many times a day from all Pac 12 team cities. Nice destination city as well for alternative entertainment. Finally, although not sure where Raiders stadium will be, most places are close to the airport for rideshare or taxi transportation

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I was in vegas last weekend and drove by it in the rideshare to the airport. Its essentially at the end of the strip across from the Mandalay Bay, and a few blocks from the airport. The taxi driver was quite bitter the major casinos weren't chipping in to pay for the construction as they were the ones that wanted it.

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I would vote for Vegas. it is a more neutral site and flights are available probably for a reasonable price many times a day from all Pac 12 team cities. Nice destination city as well for alternative entertainment. Finally, although not sure where Raiders stadium will be, most places are close to the airport for rideshare or taxi transportation

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I was in vegas last weekend and drove by it in the rideshare to the airport. Its essentially at the end of the strip across from the Mandalay Bay, and a few blocks from the airport. The taxi driver was quite bitter the major casinos weren't chipping in to pay for the construction as they were the ones that wanted it.

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Your deriver may be even more bitter - told there will be a walk-way from the airport directly to the stadium.

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golden sloth said:

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I would vote for Vegas. it is a more neutral site and flights are available probably for a reasonable price many times a day from all Pac 12 team cities. Nice destination city as well for alternative entertainment. Finally, although not sure where Raiders stadium will be, most places are close to the airport for rideshare or taxi transportation

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I was in vegas last weekend and drove by it in the rideshare to the airport. Its essentially at the end of the strip across from the Mandalay Bay, and a few blocks from the airport. The taxi driver was quite bitter the major casinos weren't chipping in to pay for the construction as they were the ones that wanted it.

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Your deriver may be even more bitter - told there will be a walk-way from the airport directly to the stadium.

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How's that going to work exactly? It probably 1.5 miles from the stadium to the airport terminal.

Probably whomever you heard this from meant a walkway across the 15 to the Mandalay/LV Blvd.

Raider fans a known to be fitness nuts. A short jog to the gams for another drubbing is nothing.

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Raider fans a known to be fitness nuts. A short jog to the gams for another drubbing is nothing.

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They'll be pushing and shoving and throwing punches on that walkway... it'll be just like they were still in Oakland on the walkway between the stadium and BART.

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GoldenB said:

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I would vote for Vegas. it is a more neutral site and flights are available probably for a reasonable price many times a day from all Pac 12 team cities. Nice destination city as well for alternative entertainment. Finally, although not sure where Raiders stadium will be, most places are close to the airport for rideshare or taxi transportation

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I was in vegas last weekend and drove by it in the rideshare to the airport. Its essentially at the end of the strip across from the Mandalay Bay, and a few blocks from the airport. The taxi driver was quite bitter the major casinos weren't chipping in to pay for the construction as they were the ones that wanted it.

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Your deriver may be even more bitter - told there will be a walk-way from the airport directly to the stadium.

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How's that going to work exactly? It probably 1.5 miles from the stadium to the airport terminal.

Probably whomever you heard this from meant a walkway across the 15 to the Mandalay/LV Blvd.

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1.5 miles? I usually walk farther than that to get to Memorial Stadium. I'd walk a lot farther than that to get to see Cal in the Pac-12 championship game. Unless the 1.5 ride is cheap, easy, and traffic free, may as well walk.

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I would vote for Vegas. it is a more neutral site and flights are available probably for a reasonable price many times a day from all Pac 12 team cities. Nice destination city as well for alternative entertainment. Finally, although not sure where Raiders stadium will be, most places are close to the airport for rideshare or taxi transportation

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I was in vegas last weekend and drove by it in the rideshare to the airport. Its essentially at the end of the strip across from the Mandalay Bay, and a few blocks from the airport. The taxi driver was quite bitter the major casinos weren't chipping in to pay for the construction as they were the ones that wanted it.

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Your deriver may be even more bitter - told there will be a walk-way from the airport directly to the stadium.

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How's that going to work exactly? It probably 1.5 miles from the stadium to the airport terminal.

Probably whomever you heard this from meant a walkway across the 15 to the Mandalay/LV Blvd.

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1.5 miles? I usually walk farther than that to get to Memorial Stadium. I'd walk a lot farther than that to get to see Cal in the Pac-12 championship game. Unless the 1.5 ride is cheap, easy, and traffic free, may as well walk.

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You'd walk 1.5 miles with luggage from the airport? And put your luggage where when you get there? What's the average high in September?

Come on now, use some common sense - no way a walkway from the LV airport is happening, especially since you'd have to tunnel under the runways between the stadium and terminal.

I think moving it to Vegas is a great idea.

Side note: We open the 2020 season at UNLV, so it looks like this may be the first real game in the stadium (besides Raiders preseason games).

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I would vote for Vegas. it is a more neutral site and flights are available probably for a reasonable price many times a day from all Pac 12 team cities. Nice destination city as well for alternative entertainment. Finally, although not sure where Raiders stadium will be, most places are close to the airport for rideshare or taxi transportation

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I was in vegas last weekend and drove by it in the rideshare to the airport. Its essentially at the end of the strip across from the Mandalay Bay, and a few blocks from the airport. The taxi driver was quite bitter the major casinos weren't chipping in to pay for the construction as they were the ones that wanted it.

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Your deriver may be even more bitter - told there will be a walk-way from the airport directly to the stadium.

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How's that going to work exactly? It probably 1.5 miles from the stadium to the airport terminal.

Probably whomever you heard this from meant a walkway across the 15 to the Mandalay/LV Blvd.

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1.5 miles? I usually walk farther than that to get to Memorial Stadium. I'd walk a lot farther than that to get to see Cal in the Pac-12 championship game. Unless the 1.5 ride is cheap, easy, and traffic free, may as well walk.

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You'd walk 1.5 miles with luggage from the airport? And put your luggage where when you get there? What's the average high in September?

Come on now, use some common sense - no way a walkway from the LV airport is happening, especially since you'd have to tunnel under the runways between the stadium and terminal.

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But I would walk 500 miles, and I would walk 500 more, just to be the man who walks a thousand miles to see the Bears win the Pac-12 championship.

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ColoradoBear said:

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wifeisafurd said:

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I would vote for Vegas. it is a more neutral site and flights are available probably for a reasonable price many times a day from all Pac 12 team cities. Nice destination city as well for alternative entertainment. Finally, although not sure where Raiders stadium will be, most places are close to the airport for rideshare or taxi transportation

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I was in vegas last weekend and drove by it in the rideshare to the airport. Its essentially at the end of the strip across from the Mandalay Bay, and a few blocks from the airport. The taxi driver was quite bitter the major casinos weren't chipping in to pay for the construction as they were the ones that wanted it.

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Your deriver may be even more bitter - told there will be a walk-way from the airport directly to the stadium.

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How's that going to work exactly? It probably 1.5 miles from the stadium to the airport terminal.

Probably whomever you heard this from meant a walkway across the 15 to the Mandalay/LV Blvd.

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1.5 miles? I usually walk farther than that to get to Memorial Stadium. I'd walk a lot farther than that to get to see Cal in the Pac-12 championship game. Unless the 1.5 ride is cheap, easy, and traffic free, may as well walk.

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You'd walk 1.5 miles with luggage from the airport? And put your luggage where when you get there? What's the average high in September?

Come on now, use some common sense - no way a walkway from the LV airport is happening, especially since you'd have to tunnel under the runways between the stadium and terminal.

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But I would walk 500 miles, and I would walk 500 more, just to be the man who walks a thousand miles to see the Bears win the Pac-12 championship.

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You may want to start training now; you know, just in case.

ColoradoBear said:

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GoldenB said:

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I would vote for Vegas. it is a more neutral site and flights are available probably for a reasonable price many times a day from all Pac 12 team cities. Nice destination city as well for alternative entertainment. Finally, although not sure where Raiders stadium will be, most places are close to the airport for rideshare or taxi transportation

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I was in vegas last weekend and drove by it in the rideshare to the airport. Its essentially at the end of the strip across from the Mandalay Bay, and a few blocks from the airport. The taxi driver was quite bitter the major casinos weren't chipping in to pay for the construction as they were the ones that wanted it.

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Your deriver may be even more bitter - told there will be a walk-way from the airport directly to the stadium.

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How's that going to work exactly? It probably 1.5 miles from the stadium to the airport terminal.

Probably whomever you heard this from meant a walkway across the 15 to the Mandalay/LV Blvd.

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1.5 miles? I usually walk farther than that to get to Memorial Stadium. I'd walk a lot farther than that to get to see Cal in the Pac-12 championship game. Unless the 1.5 ride is cheap, easy, and traffic free, may as well walk.

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You'd walk 1.5 miles with luggage from the airport? And put your luggage where when you get there? What's the average high in September?

Come on now, use some common sense - no way a walkway from the LV airport is happening, especially since you'd have to tunnel under the runways between the stadium and terminal.

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Saw the construction last week. The only way anyone is "walking" there from the airport is if they have bionic legs, the ability to dematerialize and pass through casinos (there are a few between the stadium and airport) and they can hop over I15 like they are playing Frogger on meth. Probably about a 10-15 minute walk from the Mandalay Bay to the stadium (assuming they build a causeway so no meth is required to get over I15).

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ColoradoBear said:

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Cal8285 said:

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wifeisafurd said:

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I would vote for Vegas. it is a more neutral site and flights are available probably for a reasonable price many times a day from all Pac 12 team cities. Nice destination city as well for alternative entertainment. Finally, although not sure where Raiders stadium will be, most places are close to the airport for rideshare or taxi transportation

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I was in vegas last weekend and drove by it in the rideshare to the airport. Its essentially at the end of the strip across from the Mandalay Bay, and a few blocks from the airport. The taxi driver was quite bitter the major casinos weren't chipping in to pay for the construction as they were the ones that wanted it.

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Your deriver may be even more bitter - told there will be a walk-way from the airport directly to the stadium.

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How's that going to work exactly? It probably 1.5 miles from the stadium to the airport terminal.

Probably whomever you heard this from meant a walkway across the 15 to the Mandalay/LV Blvd.

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1.5 miles? I usually walk farther than that to get to Memorial Stadium. I'd walk a lot farther than that to get to see Cal in the Pac-12 championship game. Unless the 1.5 ride is cheap, easy, and traffic free, may as well walk.

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You'd walk 1.5 miles with luggage from the airport? And put your luggage where when you get there? What's the average high in September?

Come on now, use some common sense - no way a walkway from the LV airport is happening, especially since you'd have to tunnel under the runways between the stadium and terminal.

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But I would walk 500 miles, and I would walk 500 more, just to be the man who walks a thousand miles to see the Bears win the Pac-12 championship.

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You may want to start training now; you know, just in case.

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OK, I'm working on it. I'm targeting December 2020 to be ready for 1000 miles, but don't take that as pessimism about 2019, since even if we make 2019, it won't be that long a walk to Santa Clara.

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But I would walk 500 miles, and I would walk 500 more, just to be the man who walks a thousand miles to see the Bears win the Pac-12 championship.

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If we do, I hope we're not one-hit wonders like that band!

Conference championship games anywhere... zzzzzzzzzzz

If I wanted to go to Vegas, which I don't, I'd just go anytime.

I can only think of one good thing about ANY conference championship game: If Cal won one, it would mean we won the conference championship.

ColoradoBear said:

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GoldenB said:

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I would vote for Vegas. it is a more neutral site and flights are available probably for a reasonable price many times a day from all Pac 12 team cities. Nice destination city as well for alternative entertainment. Finally, although not sure where Raiders stadium will be, most places are close to the airport for rideshare or taxi transportation

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I was in vegas last weekend and drove by it in the rideshare to the airport. Its essentially at the end of the strip across from the Mandalay Bay, and a few blocks from the airport. The taxi driver was quite bitter the major casinos weren't chipping in to pay for the construction as they were the ones that wanted it.

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Your deriver may be even more bitter - told there will be a walk-way from the airport directly to the stadium.

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How's that going to work exactly? It probably 1.5 miles from the stadium to the airport terminal.

Probably whomever you heard this from meant a walkway across the 15 to the Mandalay/LV Blvd.

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Heck, I can put in 1.5 miler just walking form the strip to the Cesar's buffet.

wifeisafurd said:

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wifeisafurd said:

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GoldenB said:

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I would vote for Vegas. it is a more neutral site and flights are available probably for a reasonable price many times a day from all Pac 12 team cities. Nice destination city as well for alternative entertainment. Finally, although not sure where Raiders stadium will be, most places are close to the airport for rideshare or taxi transportation

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I was in vegas last weekend and drove by it in the rideshare to the airport. Its essentially at the end of the strip across from the Mandalay Bay, and a few blocks from the airport. The taxi driver was quite bitter the major casinos weren't chipping in to pay for the construction as they were the ones that wanted it.

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Your deriver may be even more bitter - told there will be a walk-way from the airport directly to the stadium.

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How's that going to work exactly? It probably 1.5 miles from the stadium to the airport terminal.

Probably whomever you heard this from meant a walkway across the 15 to the Mandalay/LV Blvd.

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Heck, I can put in 1.5 miler just walking form the strip to the Cesar's buffet.

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Too freaking true.

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Conference championship games anywhere... zzzzzzzzzzz

If I wanted to go to Vegas, which I don't, I'd just go anytime.

I can only think of one good thing about ANY conference championship game: If Cal won one, it would mean we won the conference championship.

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If Cal PLAYED in one, it would mean we won the Pac-12 North. I will be happy if the program can get to that point. If Cal wins, yes, better, although I doubt it will mean a Rose Bowl.

I have this nagging feeling that if we ever win the conference championship, it will be a year when the Rose Bowl is in the playoff rotation, and The Bears don't make the playoff, or it will be a year when the Rose Bowl isn't in the playoff rotation and the Bears make the playoff. After 60 years, however, I'll take a conference championship whether it means the Rose Bowl or not.

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Big C said:

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Conference championship games anywhere... zzzzzzzzzzz

If I wanted to go to Vegas, which I don't, I'd just go anytime.

I can only think of one good thing about ANY conference championship game: If Cal won one, it would mean we won the conference championship.

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If Cal PLAYED in one, it would mean we won the Pac-12 North. I will be happy if the program can get to that point. If Cal wins, yes, better, although I doubt it will mean a Rose Bowl.

I have this nagging feeling that if we ever win the conference championship, it will be a year when the Rose Bowl is in the playoff rotation, and The Bears don't make the playoff, or it will be a year when the Rose Bowl isn't in the playoff rotation and the Bears make the playoff. After 60 years, however, I'll take a conference championship whether it means the Rose Bowl or not.

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Perfectly captures the feelings of pre-Tedford Cal fans