Bears Add Commitment From Hart QB Johnson

Beardog26 said:

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Let's not forget the ability to read defenses, get through progressions, feel pressure and move in/out of the pocket while keeping eyes downfield. The arm itself has multiple components, including strength, accuracy, touch, mechanics, etc. Confidence and leadership are factors, too.

While being tall is helpful when all other things are equal, its far too simplistic to base your QB decision on height. I played with and against many QBs, both taller and shorter. It was a mixed bag, in each category.

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Blueblood said:

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Beardog26 said:

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Let's not forget the ability to read defenses, get through progressions, feel pressure and move in/out of the pocket while keeping eyes downfield. The arm itself has multiple components, including strength, accuracy, touch, mechanics, etc. Confidence and leadership are factors, too.

While being tall is helpful when all other things are equal, its far too simplistic to base your QB decision on height. I played with and against many QBs, both taller and shorter. It was a mixed bag, in each category.

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I agree with your comments....well said.....and a Premium Boarder at that! I knew some of you guys were smart.

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Beardog26 said:

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Let's not forget the ability to read defenses, get through progressions, feel pressure and move in/out of the pocket while keeping eyes downfield. The arm itself has multiple components, including strength, accuracy, touch, mechanics, etc. Confidence and leadership are factors, too.

While being tall is helpful when all other things are equal, its far too simplistic to base your QB decision on height. I played with and against many QBs, both taller and shorter. It was a mixed bag, in each category.

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Bear8 said:

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We are forgetting that the man who brought us this recruit is Beau Baldwin and he likes running QBs. It's easier to run if you're smaller, less mass to propel. But I like that Johnson has accuracy as in 62% accurate in 11th grade. If he can capitalize on that and come back with 64 or 65% we are getting a quality recruit who can throw and run, if necessary. This is the kind of guy that will keep the chains moving.

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TomBear said:

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Meanwhile, back to the main topic: I'll keep it simple.......his tape looks good. He comes from a good program. He has good grades and totally appreciates the legends of Kapp and Boller. We've done pretty well with Hart QBs. I see no reason to expect less from him. I'm thrilled we got him.

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OaktownBear said:

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SFCityBear said:

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Blueblood has at least pointed out the fact that there is an unusual situation in the PAC12 North where most of the quarterbacks are taller than average for quarterbacks. Whether this is the start of a trend or not is maybe a subject for discussion. Whether or not Cal should join what he feels is a trend in the North, is debatable. But Blueblood has an idea that he believes will make the Cal offense better. He presented it in good faith with respect, and he threw it out for discussion. Most of us disagreed for various reasons, and throughout the discussion, he has been respectful, and instead of being met with same, he has been personally insulted, and his thinking ridiculed. I'm not going to take his side. I still disagree with his idea, but he has every right to state his opinion here with out being personally attacked like he has by several in this thread. In days of more civility, if you have to resort to personal insults, you have usually already lost the argument over the ideas. I guess these days it doesn't matter. Just say whatever comes into your mind, the more insulting you can be the better. We should be logical enough to take apart someone's idea or argument without personally ridiculing him. It is a matter of sticking to the objective, which is to discuss ways that the Cal offense can be made better.

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1. I don't see one sided personal insults. I see debate and disagreement through most of the thread. The first thing I see that could be considered an insult is NYC's "stable genius" comment, which came after the I love New York T-shirt comment. After that I just see Aunbear's comments and he and Blueblood have a feud that is running about 15 years. On the flip side Blueblood threw out a bunch of shots of his own, like all the comments about premium boarders and hiding their opinions, etc. On a neutral read knowing no history, I'm puzzled why you think Blueblood was getting insulted any worse than he was giving the insults

2. I seriously doubt the argument is in good faith. Blueblood is Blueblood. Historically, very little has been presented for a good faith debate. I'm not insulting him. He's been here longer than my 19 years. He's a character like Hate Man or Orange Man, or Bubble Lady, etc. You like his schtick or you don't. But over the years part of his schtick has been to take nonsensical positions and argue them to absurdity to get people wrapped around the axle and to "dance". This "argument" has all the earmarks of one of those. We need a really tall QB. People list "short" QB's who have succeeded. Yeah, but that isn't at Cal. People list "short" Cal QB's who have succeeded. Yeah but that isn't at Cal in the Pac-12 North (which is a distinction whose importance is very hard to understand). Cal's success or failure pretty clearly has nothing to do with the height of its quarterback. Further, this is an issue he brings up whenever the quarterback gets mentioned which is also his M.O. with one of these arguments that he takes to absurdity - keep hammering it until somebody takes the bait and responds. See Cal needs to move to the Mountain West Conference. I will say that if he truly believes that the key to Cal success is having a 6'5" quarterback, it is a reasonable side effect to the schtick he has chosen that people won't believe he is serious.

3. You don't frequent the football board much and he doesn't frequent the basketball board much. Maybe you aren't aware of his history. Blueblood is the Don Rickles of BearInsider. He's the insult comic. He's spent 20+ years with a large percentage of his posts devoted to randomly insulting people. Again, I'm not insulting him. I don't care. It's a character. But he is the last one who needs to be protected from insults. As a historical point, at one point Greybear came up with an idea to police the board by giving the community a process to decide someone was a troll and vote them off. (It was a disaster). Very quickly Blueblood was voted off. (which I didn't agree with). Years later when frankly his behavior was unhinged, Greybear after giving him chance after chance finally banned him way too late because Greybear really didn't want to do it. Behavior like posting 25 new threads as fast as he could so every topic on the first page was a nonsensical one liner posted by him.

4. I'm sorry, but you can't spend years insulting and condescending, behave yourself for a few months, and then take the high moral ground asking everyone to behave. If you want to be more civil, I applaud that. Lead by example. You comment about Civilbear's insults all the time, and yet he has never been banned in many many years of posting. You comment about me and I have never been banned in 19 years. I'd be willing to bet that other than you and the guy you are defending, no one else on this thread has been banned for bad behavior. You have admitted to being banned twice. Greybear was a very reasonable guy. Maybe you need to think through why that occurred before you point fingers at others.


edit - I will add that I think what annoyed some people (and me, frankly, though I didn't comment), was that he chose to yet again drag the tall quarterback theory out on the commitment thread for our new QB commit. Commitment threads should be about the recruit and congratulating them, not about pet theories, slamming coaches, or other criticisms people want to level at whomever they are upset with.

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going4roses said:

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You are not helping
Lol

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Cal_79 said:

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JimSox said:

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Cal_79 said:

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JimSox said:

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Yep. I agree. "...it's a incredible place."
4.4 GPA!

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While you seem to be having fun picking nits with his commitment, do you really feel that this comment is verbatim from a typed statement submitted by young Mr. Johnson?

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No of course not. Probably some auto correct bug or an editing slip up of some sort and a proofreading oversight. Just fun picking nits as you say. But it did kind of stand out like a sore thumb.

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So if you don't think he said it, then what's the point of poking fun at his GPA?

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OaktownBear said:

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SFCityBear said:

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Blueblood has at least pointed out the fact that there is an unusual situation in the PAC12 North where most of the quarterbacks are taller than average for quarterbacks. Whether this is the start of a trend or not is maybe a subject for discussion. Whether or not Cal should join what he feels is a trend in the North, is debatable. But Blueblood has an idea that he believes will make the Cal offense better. He presented it in good faith with respect, and he threw it out for discussion. Most of us disagreed for various reasons, and throughout the discussion, he has been respectful, and instead of being met with same, he has been personally insulted, and his thinking ridiculed. I'm not going to take his side. I still disagree with his idea, but he has every right to state his opinion here with out being personally attacked like he has by several in this thread. In days of more civility, if you have to resort to personal insults, you have usually already lost the argument over the ideas. I guess these days it doesn't matter. Just say whatever comes into your mind, the more insulting you can be the better. We should be logical enough to take apart someone's idea or argument without personally ridiculing him. It is a matter of sticking to the objective, which is to discuss ways that the Cal offense can be made better.

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1. I don't see one sided personal insults. I see debate and disagreement through most of the thread. The first thing I see that could be considered an insult is NYC's "stable genius" comment, which came after the I love New York T-shirt comment. After that I just see Aunbear's comments and he and Blueblood have a feud that is running about 15 years. On the flip side Blueblood threw out a bunch of shots of his own, like all the comments about premium boarders and hiding their opinions, etc. On a neutral read knowing no history, I'm puzzled why you think Blueblood was getting insulted any worse than he was giving the insults

2. I seriously doubt the argument is in good faith. Blueblood is Blueblood. Historically, very little has been presented for a good faith debate. I'm not insulting him. He's been here longer than my 19 years. He's a character like Hate Man or Orange Man, or Bubble Lady, etc. You like his schtick or you don't. But over the years part of his schtick has been to take nonsensical positions and argue them to absurdity to get people wrapped around the axle and to "dance". This "argument" has all the earmarks of one of those. We need a really tall QB. People list "short" QB's who have succeeded. Yeah, but that isn't at Cal. People list "short" Cal QB's who have succeeded. Yeah but that isn't at Cal in the Pac-12 North (which is a distinction whose importance is very hard to understand). Cal's success or failure pretty clearly has nothing to do with the height of its quarterback. Further, this is an issue he brings up whenever the quarterback gets mentioned which is also his M.O. with one of these arguments that he takes to absurdity - keep hammering it until somebody takes the bait and responds. See Cal needs to move to the Mountain West Conference. I will say that if he truly believes that the key to Cal success is having a 6'5" quarterback, it is a reasonable side effect to the schtick he has chosen that people won't believe he is serious.

3. You don't frequent the football board much and he doesn't frequent the basketball board much. Maybe you aren't aware of his history. Blueblood is the Don Rickles of BearInsider. He's the insult comic. He's spent 20+ years with a large percentage of his posts devoted to randomly insulting people. Again, I'm not insulting him. I don't care. It's a character. But he is the last one who needs to be protected from insults. As a historical point, at one point Greybear came up with an idea to police the board by giving the community a process to decide someone was a troll and vote them off. (It was a disaster). Very quickly Blueblood was voted off. (which I didn't agree with). Years later when frankly his behavior was unhinged, Greybear after giving him chance after chance finally banned him way too late because Greybear really didn't want to do it. Behavior like posting 25 new threads as fast as he could so every topic on the first page was a nonsensical one liner posted by him.

4. I'm sorry, but you can't spend years insulting and condescending, behave yourself for a few months, and then take the high moral ground asking everyone to behave. If you want to be more civil, I applaud that. Lead by example. You comment about Civilbear's insults all the time, and yet he has never been banned in many many years of posting. You comment about me and I have never been banned in 19 years. I'd be willing to bet that other than you and the guy you are defending, no one else on this thread has been banned for bad behavior. You have admitted to being banned twice. Greybear was a very reasonable guy. Maybe you need to think through why that occurred before you point fingers at others.


edit - I will add that I think what annoyed some people (and me, frankly, though I didn't comment), was that he chose to yet again drag the tall quarterback theory out on the commitment thread for our new QB commit. Commitment threads should be about the recruit and congratulating them, not about pet theories, slamming coaches, or other criticisms people want to level at whomever they are upset with.

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Blueblood said:

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OaktownBear said:

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SFCityBear said:

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Blueblood has at least pointed out the fact that there is an unusual situation in the PAC12 North where most of the quarterbacks are taller than average for quarterbacks. Whether this is the start of a trend or not is maybe a subject for discussion. Whether or not Cal should join what he feels is a trend in the North, is debatable. But Blueblood has an idea that he believes will make the Cal offense better. He presented it in good faith with respect, and he threw it out for discussion. Most of us disagreed for various reasons, and throughout the discussion, he has been respectful, and instead of being met with same, he has been personally insulted, and his thinking ridiculed. I'm not going to take his side. I still disagree with his idea, but he has every right to state his opinion here with out being personally attacked like he has by several in this thread. In days of more civility, if you have to resort to personal insults, you have usually already lost the argument over the ideas. I guess these days it doesn't matter. Just say whatever comes into your mind, the more insulting you can be the better. We should be logical enough to take apart someone's idea or argument without personally ridiculing him. It is a matter of sticking to the objective, which is to discuss ways that the Cal offense can be made better.

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1. I don't see one sided personal insults. I see debate and disagreement through most of the thread. The first thing I see that could be considered an insult is NYC's "stable genius" comment, which came after the I love New York T-shirt comment. After that I just see Aunbear's comments and he and Blueblood have a feud that is running about 15 years. On the flip side Blueblood threw out a bunch of shots of his own, like all the comments about premium boarders and hiding their opinions, etc. On a neutral read knowing no history, I'm puzzled why you think Blueblood was getting insulted any worse than he was giving the insults

2. I seriously doubt the argument is in good faith. Blueblood is Blueblood. Historically, very little has been presented for a good faith debate. I'm not insulting him. He's been here longer than my 19 years. He's a character like Hate Man or Orange Man, or Bubble Lady, etc. You like his schtick or you don't. But over the years part of his schtick has been to take nonsensical positions and argue them to absurdity to get people wrapped around the axle and to "dance". This "argument" has all the earmarks of one of those. We need a really tall QB. People list "short" QB's who have succeeded. Yeah, but that isn't at Cal. People list "short" Cal QB's who have succeeded. Yeah but that isn't at Cal in the Pac-12 North (which is a distinction whose importance is very hard to understand). Cal's success or failure pretty clearly has nothing to do with the height of its quarterback. Further, this is an issue he brings up whenever the quarterback gets mentioned which is also his M.O. with one of these arguments that he takes to absurdity - keep hammering it until somebody takes the bait and responds. See Cal needs to move to the Mountain West Conference. I will say that if he truly believes that the key to Cal success is having a 6'5" quarterback, it is a reasonable side effect to the schtick he has chosen that people won't believe he is serious.

3. You don't frequent the football board much and he doesn't frequent the basketball board much. Maybe you aren't aware of his history. Blueblood is the Don Rickles of BearInsider. He's the insult comic. He's spent 20+ years with a large percentage of his posts devoted to randomly insulting people. Again, I'm not insulting him. I don't care. It's a character. But he is the last one who needs to be protected from insults. As a historical point, at one point Greybear came up with an idea to police the board by giving the community a process to decide someone was a troll and vote them off. (It was a disaster). Very quickly Blueblood was voted off. (which I didn't agree with). Years later when frankly his behavior was unhinged, Greybear after giving him chance after chance finally banned him way too late because Greybear really didn't want to do it. Behavior like posting 25 new threads as fast as he could so every topic on the first page was a nonsensical one liner posted by him.

4. I'm sorry, but you can't spend years insulting and condescending, behave yourself for a few months, and then take the high moral ground asking everyone to behave. If you want to be more civil, I applaud that. Lead by example. You comment about Civilbear's insults all the time, and yet he has never been banned in many many years of posting. You comment about me and I have never been banned in 19 years. I'd be willing to bet that other than you and the guy you are defending, no one else on this thread has been banned for bad behavior. You have admitted to being banned twice. Greybear was a very reasonable guy. Maybe you need to think through why that occurred before you point fingers at others.


edit - I will add that I think what annoyed some people (and me, frankly, though I didn't comment), was that he chose to yet again drag the tall quarterback theory out on the commitment thread for our new QB commit. Commitment threads should be about the recruit and congratulating them, not about pet theories, slamming coaches, or other criticisms people want to level at whomever they are upset with.

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1. I don't see one sided personal insults. I see debate and disagreement through most of the thread. The first thing I see that could be considered an insult is NYC's "stable genius" comment, which came after the I love New York T-shirt comment. After that I just see Aunbear's [He's a dirty rotten guy who piles on whenever he can, but he is biggest "dancer!" ahahahahaha] comments and he and Blueblood have a feud that is running about 15 years. On the flip side Blueblood threw out a bunch of shots of his own, like all the comments about premium boarders and hiding their opinions, etc. On a neutral read knowing no history, I'm puzzled why you think Blueblood was getting insulted any worse than he was giving the insults

2. I seriously doubt the argument is in good faith. [You're wrong too...bad for me.] Blueblood is Blueblood. [Let's hope so!] Historically, very little has been presented for a good faith debate. [Again, I beg to disagree.] I'm not insulting him. [Huh, you just did.] He's been here longer than my 19 years. He's a character like Hate Man or Orange Man, or Bubble Lady, etc. You like his schtick (sic) or you don't. But over the years part of his schtick (sic) has been to take nonsensical positions and argue them to absurdity to get people wrapped around the axle and to "dance". [Damn, so that's what I do?]This "argument" has all the earmarks of one of those. [If so, you are implying then its okay to insult?] We need a really tall QB. [Yes, Cal really does, unless he's like 'zonas Tate or has the speed like u$C's recent recruit of the California 100m winnerbut Cal hasn't done this at the QB position (in modern time at least).] People list "short" QB's who have succeeded. Yeah, but that isn't at Cal. [Yeah, you don't think so? The players cited are from football factory schools that would destroy Cal if they'd play.] People list "short" Cal QB's who have succeeded. [ Per my definition of success (which is not personal but teamwise) I can't think of any recent QB success. Some have come close and they were generally tall (plus other good things too, like a good passer, etc. I'll admit that AR was an exception but Cal still didn't grab any brass rings with him, did they? I'm referring to consistency here ( say like Michigan or the dirty 'furds). My initial comment in no way ever stated that was the only requirement. I gave the readers here the benefit of the doubt that it would obviously be understood, for example, that QB would be a good passer, etc. like the recruits Cal does bring in. I was apparently wrong.]Yeah but that isn't at Cal in the Pac-12 North (which is a distinction whose importance is very hard to understand). [My bad, I guess. If noted I only mention north division QBs. This is where success, per my definition, starts, i.e., like leading the division, in the P12 playoff game, a top New Year's bowl, etc.] Cal's success or failure pretty clearly has nothing to do with the height of its quarterback. [I disagree.]Further, this is an issue he brings up whenever the quarterback gets mentioned which is also his M.O. with one of these arguments that he takes to absurdity - keep hammering it until somebody takes the bait and responds. [I've only brought up it twice or maybe 3 times.is that too much? Although you're right about this with regards to my MWC posts. I am bad...horrible me.] See Cal needs to move to the Mountain West Conference. [Why not? Cal consistently plays like they are in that conference year after year after year (again, with no success per my definition).] I will say that if he truly believes that the key to Cal success is having a 6'5" quarterback, it is a reasonable side effect to the schtick (sic) he has chosen that people won't believe he is serious. [Oh dear, now I am truly depressed.]

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OaktownBear said:

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Blueblood said:

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OaktownBear said:

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SFCityBear said:

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Blueblood has at least pointed out the fact that there is an unusual situation in the PAC12 North where most of the quarterbacks are taller than average for quarterbacks. Whether this is the start of a trend or not is maybe a subject for discussion. Whether or not Cal should join what he feels is a trend in the North, is debatable. But Blueblood has an idea that he believes will make the Cal offense better. He presented it in good faith with respect, and he threw it out for discussion. Most of us disagreed for various reasons, and throughout the discussion, he has been respectful, and instead of being met with same, he has been personally insulted, and his thinking ridiculed. I'm not going to take his side. I still disagree with his idea, but he has every right to state his opinion here with out being personally attacked like he has by several in this thread. In days of more civility, if you have to resort to personal insults, you have usually already lost the argument over the ideas. I guess these days it doesn't matter. Just say whatever comes into your mind, the more insulting you can be the better. We should be logical enough to take apart someone's idea or argument without personally ridiculing him. It is a matter of sticking to the objective, which is to discuss ways that the Cal offense can be made better.

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1. I don't see one sided personal insults. I see debate and disagreement through most of the thread. The first thing I see that could be considered an insult is NYC's "stable genius" comment, which came after the I love New York T-shirt comment. After that I just see Aunbear's comments and he and Blueblood have a feud that is running about 15 years. On the flip side Blueblood threw out a bunch of shots of his own, like all the comments about premium boarders and hiding their opinions, etc. On a neutral read knowing no history, I'm puzzled why you think Blueblood was getting insulted any worse than he was giving the insults

2. I seriously doubt the argument is in good faith. Blueblood is Blueblood. Historically, very little has been presented for a good faith debate. I'm not insulting him. He's been here longer than my 19 years. He's a character like Hate Man or Orange Man, or Bubble Lady, etc. You like his schtick or you don't. But over the years part of his schtick has been to take nonsensical positions and argue them to absurdity to get people wrapped around the axle and to "dance". This "argument" has all the earmarks of one of those. We need a really tall QB. People list "short" QB's who have succeeded. Yeah, but that isn't at Cal. People list "short" Cal QB's who have succeeded. Yeah but that isn't at Cal in the Pac-12 North (which is a distinction whose importance is very hard to understand). Cal's success or failure pretty clearly has nothing to do with the height of its quarterback. Further, this is an issue he brings up whenever the quarterback gets mentioned which is also his M.O. with one of these arguments that he takes to absurdity - keep hammering it until somebody takes the bait and responds. See Cal needs to move to the Mountain West Conference. I will say that if he truly believes that the key to Cal success is having a 6'5" quarterback, it is a reasonable side effect to the schtick he has chosen that people won't believe he is serious.

3. You don't frequent the football board much and he doesn't frequent the basketball board much. Maybe you aren't aware of his history. Blueblood is the Don Rickles of BearInsider. He's the insult comic. He's spent 20+ years with a large percentage of his posts devoted to randomly insulting people. Again, I'm not insulting him. I don't care. It's a character. But he is the last one who needs to be protected from insults. As a historical point, at one point Greybear came up with an idea to police the board by giving the community a process to decide someone was a troll and vote them off. (It was a disaster). Very quickly Blueblood was voted off. (which I didn't agree with). Years later when frankly his behavior was unhinged, Greybear after giving him chance after chance finally banned him way too late because Greybear really didn't want to do it. Behavior like posting 25 new threads as fast as he could so every topic on the first page was a nonsensical one liner posted by him.

4. I'm sorry, but you can't spend years insulting and condescending, behave yourself for a few months, and then take the high moral ground asking everyone to behave. If you want to be more civil, I applaud that. Lead by example. You comment about Civilbear's insults all the time, and yet he has never been banned in many many years of posting. You comment about me and I have never been banned in 19 years. I'd be willing to bet that other than you and the guy you are defending, no one else on this thread has been banned for bad behavior. You have admitted to being banned twice. Greybear was a very reasonable guy. Maybe you need to think through why that occurred before you point fingers at others.


edit - I will add that I think what annoyed some people (and me, frankly, though I didn't comment), was that he chose to yet again drag the tall quarterback theory out on the commitment thread for our new QB commit. Commitment threads should be about the recruit and congratulating them, not about pet theories, slamming coaches, or other criticisms people want to level at whomever they are upset with.

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1. I don't see one sided personal insults. I see debate and disagreement through most of the thread. The first thing I see that could be considered an insult is NYC's "stable genius" comment, which came after the I love New York T-shirt comment. After that I just see Aunbear's [He's a dirty rotten guy who piles on whenever he can, but he is biggest "dancer!" ahahahahaha] comments and he and Blueblood have a feud that is running about 15 years. On the flip side Blueblood threw out a bunch of shots of his own, like all the comments about premium boarders and hiding their opinions, etc. On a neutral read knowing no history, I'm puzzled why you think Blueblood was getting insulted any worse than he was giving the insults

2. I seriously doubt the argument is in good faith. [You're wrong too...bad for me.] Blueblood is Blueblood. [Let's hope so!] Historically, very little has been presented for a good faith debate. [Again, I beg to disagree.] I'm not insulting him. [Huh, you just did.] He's been here longer than my 19 years. He's a character like Hate Man or Orange Man, or Bubble Lady, etc. You like his schtick [sic] or you don't. But over the years part of his schtick [sic] has been to take nonsensical positions and argue them to absurdity to get people wrapped around the axle and to "dance". [Damn, so that's what I do?]This "argument" has all the earmarks of one of those. [If so, you are implying then its okay to insult?] We need a really tall QB. [Yes, Cal really does, unless he's like 'zonas Tate or has the speed like u$C's recent recruit of the California 100m winnerbut Cal hasn't done this at the QB position (in modern time at least).] People list "short" QB's who have succeeded. Yeah, but that isn't at Cal. [Yeah, you don't think so? The players cited are from football factory schools that would destroy Cal if they'd play.] People list "short" Cal QB's who have succeeded. [ Per my definition of success (which is not personal but teamwise) I can't think of any recent QB success. Some have come close and they were generally tall (plus other good things too, like a good passer, etc. I'll admit that AR was an exception but Cal still didn't grab any brass rings with him, did they? I'm referring to consistency here ( say like Michigan or the dirty 'furds). My initial comment in no way ever stated that was the only requirement. I gave the readers here the benefit of the doubt that it would obviously be understood, for example, that QB would be a good passer, etc. like the recruits Cal does bring in. I was apparently wrong.]Yeah but that isn't at Cal in the Pac-12 North (which is a distinction whose importance is very hard to understand). [My bad, I guess. If noted I only mention north division QBs. This is where success, per my definition, starts, i.e., like leading the division, in the P12 playoff game, a top New Year's bowl, etc.] Cal's success or failure pretty clearly has nothing to do with the height of its quarterback. [I disagree.]Further, this is an issue he brings up whenever the quarterback gets mentioned which is also his M.O. with one of these arguments that he takes to absurdity - keep hammering it until somebody takes the bait and responds. [I've only brought up it twice or maybe 3 times.is that too much? Although you're right about this with regards to my MWC posts. I am bad...horrible me.] See Cal needs to move to the Mountain West Conference. [Why not? Cal consistently plays like they are in that conference year after year after year (again, with no success per my definition).] I will say that if he truly believes that the key to Cal success is having a 6'5" quarterback, it is a reasonable side effect to the schtick [sic] he has chosen that people won't believe he is serious. [Oh dear, now I am truly depressed.]

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From Merriam-Webster

schtick
noun
less common spelling of SHTICK
1: a usually comic or repetitious performance or routine : BIT

2: one's special trait, interest, or activity : BAGhe's alive and well and now doing his shtick out in Hollywood

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Blueblood said:

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OaktownBear smuggly notes:

"3. You don't frequent the football board much and he doesn't frequent the basketball board much. Maybe you aren't aware of his history. Blueblood is the Don Rickles of BearInsider. He's the insult comic. He's spent 20+ years with a large percentage of his posts devoted to randomly insulting people. Again, I'm not insulting him. I don't care. It's a character. But he is the last one who needs to be protected from insults. As a historical point, at one point Greybear came up with an idea to police the board by giving the community a process to decide someone was a troll and vote them off. (It was a disaster). Very quickly Blueblood was voted off. (which I didn't agree with). Years later when frankly his behavior was unhinged, Greybear after giving him chance after chance finally banned him way too late because Greybear really didn't want to do it. Behavior like posting 25 new threads as fast as he could so every topic on the first page was a nonsensical one liner posted by him."

Blueblood snarkly responses:

Do you blame me? Cal basketball has left me with a bad taste. I guess I got be pattern for my Rickles routine
from watching real basketball when Newell was coaching and, in particular, listening to Joe Kapp on the bench during games. Although Cal has had some truely great players and team successes, I'm sorry but hiring an ex-furd coach did it for me.....blahhhhhh!

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SFCityBear said:

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Blueblood said:

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OaktownBear smuggly notes:

"3. You don't frequent the football board much and he doesn't frequent the basketball board much. Maybe you aren't aware of his history. Blueblood is the Don Rickles of BearInsider. He's the insult comic. He's spent 20+ years with a large percentage of his posts devoted to randomly insulting people. Again, I'm not insulting him. I don't care. It's a character. But he is the last one who needs to be protected from insults. As a historical point, at one point Greybear came up with an idea to police the board by giving the community a process to decide someone was a troll and vote them off. (It was a disaster). Very quickly Blueblood was voted off. (which I didn't agree with). Years later when frankly his behavior was unhinged, Greybear after giving him chance after chance finally banned him way too late because Greybear really didn't want to do it. Behavior like posting 25 new threads as fast as he could so every topic on the first page was a nonsensical one liner posted by him."

Blueblood snarkly responses:

Do you blame me? Cal basketball has left me with a bad taste. I guess I got be pattern for my Rickles routine
from watching real basketball when Newell was coaching and, in particular, listening to Joe Kapp on the bench during games. Although Cal has had some truely great players and team successes, I'm sorry but hiring an ex-furd coach did it for me.....blahhhhhh!

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Another case of Oaktown not quite understanding what I wrote before posting in reply. I "frequent" the football board a lot, almost as much as I frequent the basketball board. I read it almost every day. It is just that I don't often post on the football board, because I know much less about football than I do about basketball, as I never played football. The football board has a much bigger audience, I believe, with a lot of very knowledgeable football fans. I don't feel compelled to post unless I have something to add, mostly about history or something. The basketball board is different for me, as basketball was a passion of mine, and I played with and against some of the greatest bay area players of my day, and played for one of the greatest bay area coaches, all who taught me many things. Many or most of the fans on the basketball board are much younger than I, and are uninformed about the history of the game, especially the way it was played in the bay area, the best basketball in the country from high school, to college, to pro, in its day. And those fans are often uninformed about the fundamentals of the game which have survived to this day in the best players and the best coaches. I'll post about these things.

So I feel I know you, Blueblood, as a poster pretty well. I've read a lot of your posts on both boards, and I've gotten into debates with you where maybe I lost my cool. But that doesn't mean I don't respect you, which I do. I wasn't so upset about hiring a Stanford coach to coach Cal. The two schools have shared other coaches, John Ralston, Bill Walsh, Mike White, I think. What I really hate is USC. As a little kid, I was near the field, near where the USC team pinned Johnny O to the ground and Cannamela grabbed his foot and twisted it about a 180, and wrenched Johnny O's knee, ruining his career. And when McKeever hit Steve Bates out of bounds and wrecked his face. If Cal hires a USC coach, I will be all over that mistake like flypaper on a fly.

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OaktownBear smuggly notes:

"3. You don't frequent the football board much and he doesn't frequent the basketball board much. Maybe you aren't aware of his history. Blueblood is the Don Rickles of BearInsider. He's the insult comic. He's spent 20+ years with a large percentage of his posts devoted to randomly insulting people. Again, I'm not insulting him. I don't care. It's a character. But he is the last one who needs to be protected from insults. As a historical point, at one point Greybear came up with an idea to police the board by giving the community a process to decide someone was a troll and vote them off. (It was a disaster). Very quickly Blueblood was voted off. (which I didn't agree with). Years later when frankly his behavior was unhinged, Greybear after giving him chance after chance finally banned him way too late because Greybear really didn't want to do it. Behavior like posting 25 new threads as fast as he could so every topic on the first page was a nonsensical one liner posted by him."

Blueblood snarkly responses:

Do you blame me? Cal basketball has left me with a bad taste. I guess I got be pattern for my Rickles routine
from watching real basketball when Newell was coaching and, in particular, listening to Joe Kapp on the bench during games. Although Cal has had some truely great players and team successes, I'm sorry but hiring an ex-furd coach did it for me.....blahhhhhh!

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Another case of Oaktown not quite understanding what I wrote before posting in reply. I "frequent" the football board a lot, almost as much as I frequent the basketball board. I read it almost every day. It is just that I don't often post on the football board, because I know much less about football than I do about basketball, as I never played football. The football board has a much bigger audience, I believe, with a lot of very knowledgeable football fans. I don't feel compelled to post unless I have something to add, mostly about history or something. The basketball board is different for me, as basketball was a passion of mine, and I played with and against some of the greatest bay area players of my day, and played for one of the greatest bay area coaches, all who taught me many things. Many or most of the fans on the basketball board are much younger than I, and are uninformed about the history of the game, especially the way it was played in the bay area, the best basketball in the country from high school, to college, to pro, in its day. And those fans are often uninformed about the fundamentals of the game which have survived to this day in the best players and the best coaches. I'll post about these things.

So I feel I know you, Blueblood, as a poster pretty well. I've read a lot of your posts on both boards, and I've gotten into debates with you where maybe I lost my cool. But that doesn't mean I don't respect you, which I do. I wasn't so upset about hiring a Stanford coach to coach Cal. The two schools have shared other coaches, John Ralston, Bill Walsh, Mike White, I think. What I really hate is USC. As a little kid, I was near the field, near where the USC team pinned Johnny O to the ground and Cannamela grabbed his foot and twisted it about a 180, and wrenched Johnny O's knee, ruining his career. And when McKeever hit Steve Bates out of bounds and wrecked his face. If Cal hires a USC coach, I will be all over that mistake like flypaper on a fly.

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Ouch! I remember the twisted foot incident, too. The McKeever brothers were two of the dirtiest.

I know you know me (you may have felt at your peril sometimes). But, hey, I respect you, too.

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OaktownBear said:

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Blueblood is Blueblood. He's a character like Hate Man or Orange Man, or Bubble Lady, etc.

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TomBear said:

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Anybody know what the original topic was?

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NYCGOBEARS said:

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TomBear said:

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Anybody know what the original topic was?

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Our quarterbacks are midgets. Sorry, dwarves. Sorry, little people. Sorry... height challenged.

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Blueblood said:

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NYCGOBEARS said:

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TomBear said:

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Anybody know what the original topic was?

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Our quarterbacks are midgets. Sorry, dwarves. Sorry, little people. Sorry... height challenged.

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pile on Premium Boarders then run....run.... and hide.......

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NYCGOBEARS said:

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Blueblood said:

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NYCGOBEARS said:

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TomBear said:

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Anybody know what the original topic was?

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Our quarterbacks are midgets. Sorry, dwarves. Sorry, little people. Sorry... height challenged.

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pile on Premium Boarders then run....run.... and hide.......

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Seriously, shall we take a collection for you so that you too can be a premium member? That way you can feel like you actually contribute something. Because, other than your constant focus on weird nonsensical fringe issues, your only gift to us is weirdness and one note attacks. You're the sourpuss Rain Man of Growls.

Is this what you mean by "run... and hide"?

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TomBear said:

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How about addressing the original topic and leaving personal conflict elsewhere? We're all Cal fans (or at least I hope so). Isn't there enough division everywhere else?

Now, about getting another Hart QB...........

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MoragaBear said:

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I just hope Johnson or his family didn't read this "commitment" thread

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NYCGOBEARS said:

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Blueblood said:

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NYCGOBEARS said:

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TomBear said:

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Anybody know what the original topic was?

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Our quarterbacks are midgets. Sorry, dwarves. Sorry, little people. Sorry... height challenged.

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pile on Premium Boarders then run....run.... and hide.......

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Seriously, shall we take a collection for you so that you too can be a premium member? That way you can feel like you actually contribute something. Because, other than your constant focus on weird nonsensical fringe issues, your only gift to us is weirdness and one note attacks. You're the sourpuss Rain Man of Growls.

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MoragaBear said:

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I just hope Johnson or his family didn't read this "commitment" thread

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Seriously. Let's delete the thread and have a do-over.

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NVBear78 said:

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FuzzyWuzzy said:

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MoragaBear said:

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I just hope Johnson or his family didn't read this "commitment" thread

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Seriously. Let's delete the thread and have a do-over.

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Excellent idea

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MoragaBear said:

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I just hope Johnson or his family didn't read this "commitment" thread

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