OaktownBear said:

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okaydo said:

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Are their Walmart's bigger than ours?

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No, but the people shopping at Walmart are a lot bigger...

Sebastabear said:

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ok, I'm kicking this one off early.

First of all, Memphis is Bear Territory. There are Cal fans everywhere. I haven't seen this kind of turn out for us since . . . well since ever.

Here's the Memorial Glade at Graceland. See if you can count the Cal fans in the picture.

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Okay, can anyone:

1) point out the Furd grad in the picture who is wondering if the Stanford defense is buried in the graves at the corner of the pool.

2) which grave belongs to Elvis?

3) point out the guy in the picture that typed this response.

4) point out the former Cal rugby player in the picture

5) Why the ghost of Elvis will haunt Ole Miss tomorrow?

The team better have those air cooling mist fans tomorrow

OdontoBear66 said:

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Another Bear said:

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Best fries in the Bay Area: Bud's Burger in Vallejo. Total hole in the wall greasy spoon...but they use beef tallow.

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And I will say as much as I like an occasional In and Out burger their fries are horrible. Even Mickey Ds are better.

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Mickey D's has spend millions perfecting those fries. They even used beef tallow "flavoring" until about 6 years ago.

re: In 'n Out fries, they do suck...but ask for them "well done"...and factor in 10 more mins.

Best fired chicken in Memphis is at Gus' hands down. Church and Chick are lightweights in comparison.

And yes, I love traveling to inter-conference games not in Laramie Wyoming.

Whoah. I didn't even know food was political lol. Chic-fil-A is garbage, IMO. FWIW, I patronize other establishments that I know probably wouldn't agree with my politics. It's all about what tastes good. Now that I read about it - I'm going to blow holes through my overpriced Yeti cooler and Keurig coffee maker and torch my Nikes even though I love those three possessions.

Have a fun and safe trip folks! Go Bears!

Another Bear said:

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Best fries in the Bay Area: Bud's Burger in Vallejo. Total hole in the wall greasy spoon...but they use beef tallow.

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Mickey D used to cook their fries in beef tallow which was a big part of why they got so popular. They ditched that decades ago but still use various combinations of additives to replicate the flavor.

As for In-N-Out fries, gotta get them well done. Much better. Just like how the Extra Toasty Cheez-It is superior to the original.

Don't we have a full time nutritionist on staff these days? A nutritionist who likes CFA? Interesting.

Damn, AnotherBear. Didn't even see your message before posting mine but you have strong fry takes and excellent taste.

TheSouseFamily said:

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Damn, AnotherBear. Didn't even see your message before posting mine but you have strong fry takes and excellent taste.

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Back at you... Anyone that knows about Mickey D's beef tallow and In 'n Out well done fries, has some french fries knowledge, or hates crappy fries.

Re: CFA, I think it's "when in Rome..." thing, although CFA is in California. My guess, the nutritionalist figured 300 calories for a CFB player...not a big deal. I'd guess some of those guys consumer 4k to 5k calories a day.

OaktownBear said:

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cubzwin said:

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Absurd. Public schools don't check all their vendors to see if the owners or shareholders or corporate executives support causes that some subsets of the population would call discriminatory. That would be an onerous test. Also why stop at public schools? What if all state and federal purchasers refused to buy any products which all or in any part derived from countries that say declare homosexuality is illegal or countries that practice religious or gender discrimination? How about corporations whose products are produced in any part through child labor or even slave labor?

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1. Have you seen a state or federal government contract? You have to agree to having a no discrimination policy. Homosexuality isn't one of the categories yet, but is there really a difference conceptually? Federal and state purchasers absolutely do what you are saying for several protected classes.

Also, would you feel the same way if Cal had contracted with the Black Muslim bakery back in the day? Or the Antifa food service? Would you be against a college in 1860 refusing to do business with companies that supported slavery because half the country believed in slavery? Chik's issues aren't important enough to you, but I suspect you'd feel differently about vendor choice if it were an issue that was more important to you.

To be clear I don't have a strong opinion about this, but it is not an unreasonable position.

That and it's an okay chicken sandwich. First thing I've found more overrated than In and Out . Both solid for fast food but get a big "so what" from me

And by the way, no child labor or slave labor clauses that are required to be flowed down to all subcontractors are very common. I'm not positive it is a federal contracting requirement, but it might be

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Oaktown - on this issue you are factually wrong and wrong on the law.

Factually, there has never been a generalized allegation that chick fil a discriminates in its business against any group or, specifically, against LGBT. They hire and serve anyone and have reiterated that is the case. The company absolutely would meet any state or federal requirements for non-discrimination.

Some people objected to: (i) the charities and causes Chik fil a's related charitable foundation supported (pro traditional marriage); and (ii) the personal views of its founders. No federal or state discrimination statute would reach that conduct - because the business is not discriminating. For a state actor to refuse to do business with Chik fil a (or any business, even Antifa bakery) because of the religious or political views of its owners is a first amendment violation.

This is black letter law and the irony is that this came up not to long ago when a city wanted to boycott nike products for hiring Kap. So called liberals advocating for schools to exclude Chik fil a should think about that. What if a conservative city/state wants to boycott products from liberal owners - like prohibiting publicly owned or funded facilities (think redevelopment projects, train stations, bus billboards ) from selling magazines or advertising/showing movies owned by liberal hollywood companies? Or apple products because Tim Cook is a very liberal guy and occasionally an activist.

https://reason.com/2018/09/20/no-government-boycotts-of-nike-arent-con

Obviously, if private people choose to boycott chik fil a, that is a very different issue. I think its wrong in most cases - because there is no limiting principle - but to each their own.

Ridiculous. Honestly reading this thread...

...I'm going to Chik Fil A tomorrow and order a bunch of shieet just to spite all you.

AunBear89 said:

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TheFiatLux said:

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glb78 said:

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For some reason, a lot of Bay Area kids get athletic scholarships to Ole Miss baseball (I know of 4, two of whom I played with growing up). As for Chick-fil-A - I don't see what the hype is about. I've tried everything on the menu and besides their fries which are good, the sandwiches are blah. IMO.

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If you're talking fries you're talking McDonald's and Five Guys. Two completely different types of fries, but both incredible.

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My brother from another mother!

What's your position on In-n-Out fries?

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I'll take In-n-Out fries every day of the week. They may not be as "perfect" (ie, processed, formed, and pre-cooked before being frozen) as the huge fast food chains, but there is something to be said for being able to watch them cut the fries from whole potatoes before frying them. They're made the way fries are supposed to be made.

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TheFiatLux said:

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glb78 said:

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For some reason, a lot of Bay Area kids get athletic scholarships to Ole Miss baseball (I know of 4, two of whom I played with growing up). As for Chick-fil-A - I don't see what the hype is about. I've tried everything on the menu and besides their fries which are good, the sandwiches are blah. IMO.

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If you're talking fries you're talking McDonald's and Five Guys. Two completely different types of fries, but both incredible.

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My brother from another mother!

What's your position on In-n-Out fries?

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I'll take In-n-Out fries every day of the week. They may not be as "perfect" (ie, processed, formed, and pre-cooked before being frozen) as the huge fast food chains, but there is something to be said for being able to watch them cut the fries from whole potatoes before frying them. They're made the way fries are supposed to be made.

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The problem is that they are not made the way they are supposed to be made. They are made-to-order and that limits the washing off the starch, the texture of the inside on the first try, and the texture of the outside on the second fry and you end up with garbage fries that you could easily top at home.

They are cut, put in oil and taken out and put on your tray. It isn't more wholesome or real, it's just showmanship. Cutting it in front of you means you forego any ability to make a passable french fry, or you take an hour to fullfil the order.

Good fries are washed and cooked twice. The "processed" BS you are talking about is the logistics of washing and cooking them twice. McDonald's often owns the production of the potato and even pays farmers abroad to plant their varieties because it gives a long fry that is constantly around the world... It's a real potato, cut and cooked; They don't form them like a Pringle. They hit the first two steps and freeze so they can do higher volume in stores. https://www.cnet.com/news/former-mythbuster-goes-on-mcdonalds-french-fry-fact-finding-hunt/

5 guys does it at the location, but they start well before opening since it takes so long. That is the tradeoff. 5 guys would absolutely change it's methods if they had to achieve higher volume. https://www.foodrepublic.com/2016/03/29/how-the-five-guys-french-fries-get-made-a-food-republic-exclusive/

That's why in-and-out is the absolute worst fry you can possibly get in fast food. It is literally how an absolute novice home cook would make them. A good home cook can make a 5guys fry (or really any other ok to good fry). It isn't hard. It just takes time that they are unwilling to take.

On chicken sandwiches....

The Popeye's spicy chicken sandwich is about equal to the Chick-Fil-A regular chicken sandwich. The regular Popeye's version is bland and i would not try it again. The spicy Chik-Fil-A is only modestly more spicy than the regular and costs 10% more. Not worth it. 2 big differences between the Popeye's and Chik-Fil-A versions: 1) Popeye's versions are truly fried and thus the breading on the fillets has some crunchy flakes. The Chik-Fil-A fillets are pressure fried and do not have a crunchy coating. Which is better? Dictated by personal preference. 2) the Popeye's fillets are shaped like the tenderloin fillet from the breast - tubular in shape. The Chik-Fil-A fillet are flattened. Thus they are thinner but wider. Which is better? Again, dictated by personal preference. As the costs of the two best versions (Popeye's Spicy & Chik-Fil-A regular) are very close, I rate it a draw.

On fried on the bone chicken....

Jollibee's fried chicken has two salient qualities vs. American fried chicken chains: 1) the Jollibee pieces are much larger. The shrinkage of the chicken pieces at KFC, Popeye's and especially Church's over the past decade has been severe. The Jollibee's chicken pieces are much larger, particularly for the non-breast pieces. 2) the Jollibee's fried chicken is much blander. In fact if you are binging, Jollibee's isn't really tolerable unless you bring your own additives. Cost wise, I've seen a lot of variance here. But overall, if you are going to eat fried chicken - you know it's bad for you, so you might as well have it taste good. So I'd rate Jollibee's under the KFC baseline, unless.....you like sriracha and you bring your own bottle. Then Jollibee's dominates on size.

I know these are serious topics so now you are fully briefed.

Oh and, finale score: Cal 17 Ole Miss 14.

So I think that about covers it.

NVBear78 said:

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Sebastabear said:

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Team had Chick-fil-A snacks for the plane on the the way out. Very politically incorrect, but damn that's a fine tasting chicken sandwich.


https://i.imgur.com/SRkzj28.jpg

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People who won't let you enjoy fast food of your choice don't deserve to eat Chick-fil-A. We had Chuck-fil-A for dinner last night on the drive from Nashville and loved it. And some colleges want to ban them-what happened to person opinion and choice?

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I'm shopping early for Beethoven's Birthday for you this year.

https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/71-f2JcgehL._UL1500_.jpg

TheFiatLux said:

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glb78 said:

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For some reason, a lot of Bay Area kids get athletic scholarships to Ole Miss baseball (I know of 4, two of whom I played with growing up). As for Chick-fil-A - I don't see what the hype is about. I've tried everything on the menu and besides their fries which are good, the sandwiches are blah. IMO.

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If you're talking fries you're talking McDonald's and Five Guys. Two completely different types of fries, but both incredible.

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McDonald's french fries haven't been incredible in years

Well since the chicken theme is still going on

https://www.dailymotion.com/video/x6vo58l

Chick-Fil-A chicken sandwiches are great when you consider what the fast food chicken sandwich options were before they opened up in California. A McChicken from McDonald's? KFC had chicken but any of their sandwich/wrap options were (and maybe still are) mediocre. Popeye's never had a chicken sandwich (hence the hype this summer).

About as mild as it gets in the deep South this time of the year, excellent!

On fries - you have to have been raised on McD fries to like them. That is a bit their business model, they get the kids hooked up on them early on. Besides being frozen, they also have over a dozen artificial ingredients, including silicone. A fry from McD will not go bad for years, whereas a normal fry will rot in days.

Can this thread be saved? I will try. Here's a picture of the cookies they served last night at the donor dinner

Sebastabear said:

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Can this thread be saved? I will try. Here's a picture of the cookies they served last night at the donor dinner

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What does this have to do with Chik-Fil-A!?!!?

I can't believe I got this far and not a single one of you chicken humpers didn't mention the soft serve ice cream. F-CK the fries and the spicy chick boob sanis you got to have the soft serve.

So as not to get you all off the topic of Vallejo, nobody needs to respond to this post because it is the god awful truth.

Wheels up boys. Police escort time

This is apparently what Ole Miss has been handing out to prospective students on campus tours this week. I'm sure some of them are like "who's Cal and what did he ever do to you?"

On the road from Nashville somewhere near Abeville. god I love 11 am starts. It's hot as all hell, about 60 pct humidity.. Not sure this weather helps us. Some back seat drinks have been served thankfully.

They blocked the road for the team busses all the way in to Oxford. I think I could get used to this. Maybe I do actually want to be president when I grow up.

Sebastabear said:

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They blocked the road for the team busses all the way in to Oxford. I think I could get used to this. Maybe I do actually want to be president when I grow up.

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that's a sweet Red Roof Inn in that Pic.

Back to fries...Looks like we are lobbying for a Chik-a-Fil bid over another Cheez Itz invite. Never been to Chik-a-fil.
Lived in Houston and the option was Church's.

This thread is a joke. I am all excited about the stories about Ole Miss Travel and food and somehow it turns into political bs and which fries are better. You wonder with fans like this we will ever win a championship.

Please posters post stuff from the Grove etc. Hotty Toddy . Make a Chick Filet/Fries thread so I don't have to read that s..t...

Goobear said:

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This thread is a joke. I am all excited about the stories about Ole Miss Travel and food and somehow it turns into political bs and which fries are better. You wonder with fans like this we will ever win a championship.

Please posters post stuff from the Grove etc. Hotty Toddy . Make a Chick Filet/Fries thread so I don't have to read that s..t...

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Totally

Goobear said:

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This thread is a joke. I am all excited about the stories about Ole Miss Travel and food and somehow it turns into political bs and which fries are better. You wonder with fans like this we will ever win a championship.

Please posters post stuff from the Grove etc. Hotty Toddy . Make a Chick Filet/Fries thread so I don't have to read that s..t...

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Agree 100%. I have NO PROBLEM with OT threads, even on this board, but why hijack a meaningful thread?

On a different note (but game-related), it's 8:45 in California and I'm still sleepy. LOUSY time for a football game. Hope the Bears are alert. Go Bears!

Oski forgive him

*******it. I went to the Kim Bap place at 7:30 am. They said they'd be open. But they were closed!!!

I have to go through this game sans Kim Bap.

(You really can't get good food before 9 am.)

Sebastabear said:

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Team had Chick-fil-A snacks for the plane on the the way out. Very politically incorrect, but damn that's a fine tasting chicken sandwich.

Politically perfect for me.

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