Or did I speak too soon? Is there someone who can breathe new life into this tired old beav genre?

I don't think we are, judging by how many people make "Kneepads" references to Mack Brown and the 2004 thievery of the Rose Bowl bid. I personally find that reference/remark pretty crude, and charitably I'll say I don't think many posters consider how homophobic (or misogynistic) if reads when they post it.

That said, probably hypocritically I am all for 6th grade humor Beaver jokes.

Will it never end? Thought by now this community would be more informed. I love a little bawdy humor now and then, but when women are included in this forum this is more than insensitive. Maybe I'm out of line, but think not.

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If the name of the team was a nickname for male genitalia, we would be making male genitalia jokes...so this is basically all on Oregon State.

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Wait, we have a home and away with South Carolina?

I don't know why I didn't trust my better instincts to not click on this thread.

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Poor Beaver Cleaver - a good Cal Bear!!

First x-rated comment made on tv was when June Cleaver said to her husband Ward, "jeeze honey, you were pretty hard on the beaver last night".

Mama Bear said:

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Will it never end? Thought by now this community would be more informed. I love a little bawdy humor now and then, but when women are included in this forum this is more than insensitive. Maybe I'm out of line, but think not.

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+1

I don't want to offend Mama Bear and I am too old to defend infantile conduct.

B.A. Bearacus said:

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bearister said:

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If the name of the team was a nickname for male genitalia, we would be making male genitalia jokes...so this is basically all on Oregon State.

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Wait, we have a home and away with South Carolina?

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When we play them I'll be the first to post Beat the Cocks!!

Sorry, couldn't resist. This thread got me down.

Mama Bear said:

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Will it never end? Thought by now this community would be more informed. I love a little bawdy humor now and then, but when women are included in this forum this is more than insensitive. Maybe I'm out of line, but think not.

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Hey Mama Bear, out of respect for you, I have deleted what can be deleted. Also out of respect, I would like to share my opinion that having fun at an opponent's expense is part of the fun of college rivalries, especially when their mascot's name also means something that's funny in a football context (see Trojans). I 100% assure you that if we played South Carolina every year, we would have fun with that one, too.

Anyways, hope we beat the Oregon State team this weekend.

Thanks Bearacus. I understand the tradition of college nickname fun, but would have thought this generation might have seen this as disrespectful and in some cases raunchy. Perhaps it's just too tempting to pass up. Years ago in the workplace I would have rolled my eyes and said "boys will be boys". But women are no longer silent. Thus my mention here in "growls". Wouldn't be here if I didn't enjoy the comments and banter. We will beat the Beavs on Saturday.

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First x-rated comment made on tv was when June Cleaver said to her husband Ward, "jeeze honey, you were pretty hard on the beaver last night".

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Don't know how many know this, but "Wally" (Beaver Cleaver's brother) was in the 50's slang for p***s. You know the creators of the show knew what they were doing.

The important difference is this is not the workplace. I personally wouldn't post any beaver jokes, but if some people do, I don't see the harm. Why does life always have to be so serious these days?

I really appreciate the thoughtfulness and sensitivity displayed in so many of the responses above. I also understand and appreciate the desire to make fun of our rivals.

The thing is...I think it may be hard for men to relate to the feelings that some women may have when hearing/reading things like, "pound the beavers," "fist the beavers," etc. I don't know about Mama Bear - or other females on this board...but for me, it is more than just a "dirty joke" that feels disrespectful to women. It conjures feelings of fear that I (and I'm sure many women) have felt related to being a woman. Think about the number of women that have been groped by random men in public places - at dances, concerts, on public transportation, etc. The number is astronomically high. I bet many of you have daughters that have been groped by some kid - as early as junior high school. Think of the number of women that have been - or feared that they were about to be - date raped/sexually assaulted.''

Now, I realize that may seem like a huge over-reaction - "what the hell does that have to do with a joke about football?" I get that. This is a sports board, people are joking around and I KNOW that NOBODY meant to take it to any level higher than a witty, dirty joke at our rival's expense. I get that and appreciate that. I have been reading this board for decades - literally - since back when it was "cyberbears." Every year, there have been posters that make the same jokes about the Beavers, and I have never responded/expressed my feelings about it. But, since Mama Bear had the courage to bring it up...I think it's important to add my two cents (for whatever they are worth.)

We still live in a world in which many women still feel fear when they are alone and are "cat called," walk past a group of guys that whistle at them/make sexual comment, or when, say, they are jogging and are honked at by car with some guys in it. It all comes from the same place.

I guess the point is that, as a woman, you want to feel safe - and respected. So, when there are comments like "pound the beavers," it just feels like, at minimum, people don't understand how uncomfortable the comments may make female board members feel - or, they don't care...and think women just need to suck it up and not feel that way cuz it's a "funny joke."

Sorry for the rant.

I'm thinking there is at least one poster in this thread that is under the misapprehension that it was B.A. Bearacus that deleted all my offensive comments.

The Beavers worry me. Hope the "multiple" offense is gassed up and ready to go and/or the defense is able to score a couple.

What's a beaver?

hanky1 said:

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What's a beaver?

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Wally's brother

hanky1 said:

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What's a beaver?

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Pretty much everyone that was a Chi Psi.

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I really appreciate the thoughtfulness and sensitivity displayed in so many of the responses above. I also understand and appreciate the desire to make fun of our rivals.

The thing is...I think it may be hard for men to relate to the feelings that some women may have when hearing/reading things like, "pound the beavers," "fist the beavers," etc. I don't know about Mama Bear - or other females on this board...but for me, it is more than just a "dirty joke" that feels disrespectful to women. It conjures feelings of fear that I (and I'm sure many women) have felt related to being a woman. Think about the number of women that have been groped by random men in public places - at dances, concerts, on public transportation, etc. The number is astronomically high. I bet many of you have daughters that have been groped by some kid - as early as junior high school. Think of the number of women that have been - or feared that they were about to be - date raped/sexually assaulted.''

Now, I realize that may seem like a huge over-reaction - "what the hell does that have to do with a joke about football?" I get that. This is a sports board, people are joking around and I KNOW that NOBODY meant to take it to any level higher than a witty, dirty joke at our rival's expense. I get that and appreciate that. I have been reading this board for decades - literally - since back when it was "cyberbears." Every year, there have been posters that make the same jokes about the Beavers, and I have never responded/expressed my feelings about it. But, since Mama Bear had the courage to bring it up...I think it's important to add my two cents (for whatever they are worth.)

We still live in a world in which many women still feel fear when they are alone and are "cat called," walk past a group of guys that whistle at them/make sexual comment, or when, say, they are jogging and are honked at by car with some guys in it. It all comes from the same place.

I guess the point is that, as a woman, you want to feel safe - and respected. So, when there are comments like "pound the beavers," it just feels like, at minimum, people don't understand how uncomfortable the comments may make female board members feel - or, they don't care...and think women just need to suck it up and not feel that way cuz it's a "funny joke."

Sorry for the rant.

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Is it okay to lick the Beavers?

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SoCalie said:

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I really appreciate the thoughtfulness and sensitivity displayed in so many of the responses above. I also understand and appreciate the desire to make fun of our rivals.

The thing is...I think it may be hard for men to relate to the feelings that some women may have when hearing/reading things like, "pound the beavers," "fist the beavers," etc. I don't know about Mama Bear - or other females on this board...but for me, it is more than just a "dirty joke" that feels disrespectful to women. It conjures feelings of fear that I (and I'm sure many women) have felt related to being a woman. Think about the number of women that have been groped by random men in public places - at dances, concerts, on public transportation, etc. The number is astronomically high. I bet many of you have daughters that have been groped by some kid - as early as junior high school. Think of the number of women that have been - or feared that they were about to be - date raped/sexually assaulted.''

Now, I realize that may seem like a huge over-reaction - "what the hell does that have to do with a joke about football?" I get that. This is a sports board, people are joking around and I KNOW that NOBODY meant to take it to any level higher than a witty, dirty joke at our rival's expense. I get that and appreciate that. I have been reading this board for decades - literally - since back when it was "cyberbears." Every year, there have been posters that make the same jokes about the Beavers, and I have never responded/expressed my feelings about it. But, since Mama Bear had the courage to bring it up...I think it's important to add my two cents (for whatever they are worth.)

We still live in a world in which many women still feel fear when they are alone and are "cat called," walk past a group of guys that whistle at them/make sexual comment, or when, say, they are jogging and are honked at by car with some guys in it. It all comes from the same place.

I guess the point is that, as a woman, you want to feel safe - and respected. So, when there are comments like "pound the beavers," it just feels like, at minimum, people don't understand how uncomfortable the comments may make female board members feel - or, they don't care...and think women just need to suck it up and not feel that way cuz it's a "funny joke."

Sorry for the rant.

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Is it okay to lick the Beavers?

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If you had a daughter that was dating someone that went to your house to watch the Cal v. Oregon State game - and, made various comments like "Fist the beavers!" "Lick those Beavers" - in front of her...what would you think of the guy? Would you want her to keep dating him? Would it tell you anything about how he views women? Or how he views sexual interactions with women? Would it tell you anything about how he views your daughter?

Would you say those things in front of your daughter?

It is a bit awkward when parents make sexual jokes around their kids and vice versa. If my daughter's boyfriend was comfortable saying this around me, out of the blue, I would be a bit worried about how he acted when I was not around.

Are all double entendres off-limits or only those referencing female sex organs?

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It is a bit awkward when parents make sexual jokes around their kids and vice versa. If my daughter's boyfriend was comfortable saying this around me, out of the blue, I would be a bit worried about how he acted when I was not around.

Are all double entendres off-limits or only those referencing female sex organs?

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First, thank you very much for your thoughtful response.

I'm assuming from your answer that it would make you question him - how he views women, how he views sex, and how he views your daughter.

I would imagine double entendres regarding race (etc.,) are off limits, too. But, if you guys want to make double entendres regarding male sex organs, go for it. That, perhaps, comes down to a question of "maturity" or "tastefulness." But, I wouldn't care at all. It's the "pounding," "fisting," and even "licking" the beavers that is impactful for me - and I'd imagine some other female board members, as well.

Someone is going to do a google search one day and unexpectedly end up in a Cal football forum.

B.A. Bearacus said:

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Someone is going to do a google search one day and unexpectedly end up in a Cal football forum.

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My suggested avatar for oski003:

B.A. Bearacus said:

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Someone is going to do a google search one day and unexpectedly end up in a Cal football forum.

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So funny! Reminds me of when this board was "Cyberbears.org" -- and people would accidentally go to "Cyberbears.com"