See below for more info on the letter - it's clear this Tweet is an exaggeration.

No - it's more fun to cr@p on the alma mater and the city because everything without a script Cal sucks. It's how Righteous Righties roll.

Wild guess but Hanky may be conflating Cal urging students not to go home and return over Thanksgiving with their closure of the dorms over the Christmas break. I haven't seen anywhere where Cal is telling the students not to go home for Christmas.

If I'm right, Cal's position is not only "not stupid" but eminently reasonable.

KoreAmBear said:

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B.A. Bearacus said:

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Where is the part where the letter explicitly states don't go home, which is central to hanky1's contention that UC Berkeley is stupid?

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I admit I didn't read any of this carefully, but someone did pose your very question:

In other words, not explicitly, but implicitly by going home to family who are not in one's pod. But "home" doesn't necessarily have to be going back to family. So many questions in pandemic life.

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Asking students to "be mindful of public health guidance and restrictions now in effect" is not explicitly or implicitly saying "don't go home."

Outside of the counties of Alameda, Contra Costa, Santa Clara, Marin, and SF, the order in question isn't a "municipal order," rather, the State of California's Regional Stay at Home Order (and, of course, where they are county orders, those counties have adopted the Regional Stay at Home Order even though the State has not imposed that order in the Bay Area).

All of the orders since March have contained certain ambiguities, but I don't think there is anything in the new state order that would prevent someone from coming "home," even if they haven't been at home for two or three or four months.

The main order at issue is: "All individuals living in the Region shall stay home or at their place of residence except as necessary to conduct activities associated with the operation, maintenance, or usage of critical infrastructure, as required by law, or as specifically permitted in this order."

The order further provides: "Nothing in this Order prevents any number of persons from the same household from leaving their residence, lodging, or temporary accommodation, as long as they do not engage in any interaction with (or otherwise gather with) any number of persons from any other household, except as specifically permitted herein."

Going from a dorm that is closing back home is not a violation of the order, no state or county official will interpret it that way.

Telling students to "be mindful of public health guidance and restrictions now in effect" and telling them they need to leave the dorm is not stupid, it is not inconsistent, especially when combined with the university providing emergency housing for those who need it. The contention of hanky1 that UC Berkeley is stupid based on this email is just wrong. UC Berkeley may be stupid in a lot of ways, but this isn't one of them.

Cal8285 said:

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KoreAmBear said:

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B.A. Bearacus said:

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Where is the part where the letter explicitly states don't go home, which is central to hanky1's contention that UC Berkeley is stupid?

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I admit I didn't read any of this carefully, but someone did pose your very question:

In other words, not explicitly, but implicitly by going home to family who are not in one's pod. But "home" doesn't necessarily have to be going back to family. So many questions in pandemic life.

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Asking students to "be mindful of public health guidance and restrictions now in effect" is not explicitly or implicitly saying "don't go home."

Outside of the counties of Alameda, Contra Costa, Santa Clara, Marin, and SF, the order in question isn't a "municipal order," rather, the State of California's Regional Stay at Home Order (and, of course, where they are county orders, those counties have adopted the Regional Stay at Home Order even though the State has not imposed that order in the Bay Area).

All of the orders since March have contained certain ambiguities, but I don't think there is anything in the new state order that would prevent someone from coming "home," even if they haven't been at home for two or three or four months.

The main order at issue is: "All individuals living in the Region shall stay home or at their place of residence except as necessary to conduct activities associated with the operation, maintenance, or usage of critical infrastructure, as required by law, or as specifically permitted in this order."

The order further provides: "Nothing in this Order prevents any number of persons from the same household from leaving their residence, lodging, or temporary accommodation, as long as they do not engage in any interaction with (or otherwise gather with) any number of persons from any other household, except as specifically permitted herein."

Going from a dorm that is closing back home is not a violation of the order, no state or county official will interpret it that way.

Telling students to "be mindful of public health guidance and restrictions now in effect" and telling them they need to leave the dorm is not stupid, it is not inconsistent, especially when combined with the university providing emergency housing for those who need it. The contention of hanky1 that UC Berkeley is stupid based on this email is just wrong. UC Berkeley may be stupid in a lot of ways, but this isn't one of them.

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I was really saddened to see a Cal student (twitter poster) with such poor critical thinking and reading skills. Is nuance not taught in Geo?

My niece was scheduled to be an RA at USC this school year (I know...I know....USC....but they offered her a full ride - Cal didn't - and she has to pay her own way through college). The university contacted her (and the other RAs for the school year) THE DAY before they were supposed to move in - and told them that most dorms would be closed this semester - so they need to find other housing options. She found some place near campus that costs a lot and she is working two jobs - plus being a full time student - just to pay for her rent.

Seriously? The day before? Ridiculous.

SoCalie said:

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My niece was scheduled to be an RA at USC this school year (I know...I know....USC....but they offered her a full ride - Cal didn't - and she has to pay her own way through college). The university contacted her (and the other RAs for the school year) THE DAY before they were supposed to move in - and told them that most dorms would be closed this semester - so they need to find other housing options. She found some place near campus that costs a lot and she is working two jobs - plus being a full time student - just to pay for her rent.

Seriously? The day before? Ridiculous.

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Here's the thing, ****SC or otherwise, matriculating into undergrad this year with what is going in is nuts, hit the local JC or just sit out because paying full-ride to log into Zoom, makes NO SENSE.

Yeah, let's talk about COVID some more, that'll be interesting.