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20november1982
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6:47a, 12/19/20
Caveat: I know this is a booth as I recall seeing an original thread on this but couldn't find a final answer.

Are the pop up windows on each click officially here to stay?

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In reply to 20november1982 • 8:11a, 12/19/20
20november1982 said:
Caveat: I know this is a booth as I recall seeing an original thread on this but couldn't find a final answer.

Are the pop up windows on each click officially here to stay?

Go Bears

It sure looks like they are.
I have complained about it before. But no luck.
They are annoying as heck.
The mods are angry at Cal fans who aren't willing to subscribe to the paid version. This is the their way of getting back at us.
BI used to be my first choice as a recreational site. Now it is my last.
First comes Go Comics. Then a couple of political sites. Finally if I have more spare time BI.
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8:32a, 12/19/20
Most annoying pop ups I've run into in a long time. Do they actually work for advertisers? I don't know about anyone else, but the annoyance alone guarantees I will never visit the advertisers site or buy their products. Seems counterproductive to me for both the advertisers and BI since I don't view the BI site nearly as much as I used too.
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8:36a, 12/19/20
It costs a lot to buy and maintain all the servers needed to handle all the Cal Athletics fans traffic.
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9:10a, 12/19/20
It also seems that now the sound on the ads is on. Really annoying. It's free though so what can you do but live with it until you can't.
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In reply to Bobodeluxe • 9:12a, 12/19/20
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It costs a lot to buy and maintain all the servers needed to handle all the Cal Athletics fans traffic.

I am not complaining about the fact that there are ads. I know there must be ads in free sites.
I complaining about how these particular ads uniquely interfere within every topic and are extremely annoying.
Almost all sites I visit are separated into different items. For Go Comics. These are broken down to particular political cartoonists and particular cartoons. There are ads between each cartoonist and between each political cartoon.
For Politico there are ads between each news item and occasionally at the bottom of each page (outside the text of the article).
But these ads do not intrude upon/into the text of the article or the picture of the political cartoon.

For these sites (and many others) the viewer scrolls up or down to the next news item or next cartoon, the viewer will see the ad. (Sometimes the ad will grab me and I stop and view it. For example some picture with a bear in it. )
But the viewer does not have the ad pushing its way into the text or cartoon the viewer is reading.

For BI there are ads between the topics and ads within each item and not just at the bottom outside the text or cartoon but within the text. And the viewer has to constantly scroll down to abound the pop up. And worst of all. If the viewer tries to remove the ad by clicking the X box. The X box is so close to the open box (intentionally so) that the viewer mistakenly opens the ad and has to spend time closing the ad before going back to the item the viewer was reading.
At some point the process becomes a headache and I say screw it and don't come back to BI for days. BI used to be the first site I would visit in the morning and the last site I would visit at night and a number of times during the day. But no more.
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11:03a, 12/19/20
SFGate is the worst. I pay for the Chronicle site, so I have that option, but I prefer the Gate format. I had paid for the CoCoTimes, but their relentless ads forced me to cancel. They are just an empty shell of the poor paper they were, now owned by faceless WallSteet pirate investors. The MercuryNews is for some reason much cleaner, with same ownership. Same content. Same owners.

The NYTimes and the Amazon Post are pretty good for ads, but they both have figured out the subscription thing.

My guess is that the clicks on any Cal Athletics site is in the single digits percentage wise compared to say five to ten years ago.
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1:23p, 12/19/20
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We're actively working to reduce the number of pop up ads non-premium BI community members see.

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In reply to BearGreg • 4:46p, 12/19/20
BearGreg said:
We're actively working to reduce the number of pop up ads non-premium BI community members see.

Premium member and they pop up incessantly on my iPhone. Not on my desktop at all. Also, why do I have to log in each time on my iPhone and never on my desktop?
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6:23p, 12/19/20
https://bearinsider.com/forums/6/topics/98091

It has been going on for months. I appreciate what the group that runs the site does to facilitate discussion about Cal and I understand the need for more revenue, but it does not seem to be a priority of that group at this time.

EDIT:
I did not mean to include that injured posticon as part of my message.
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8:32p, 12/19/20
What does server space really cost? It isn't like the free version of this site costs anybody anything for content development. Agree that once things get back to where we actually have sports going on I am likely to go to another board. I don't mind ads but the ones on my mobile are not manageable. Desktop are ok.
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In reply to Bobodeluxe • 10:25p, 12/19/20
Bobodeluxe said:
SFGate is the worst. I pay for the Chronicle site, so I have that option, but I prefer the Gate format. I had paid for the CoCoTimes, but their relentless ads forced me to cancel. They are just an empty shell of the poor paper they were, now owned by faceless WallSteet pirate investors. The MercuryNews is for some reason much cleaner, with same ownership. Same content. Same owners.

The NYTimes and the Amazon Post are pretty good for ads, but they both have figured out the subscription thing.

My guess is that the clicks on any Cal Athletics site is in the single digits percentage wise compared to say five to ten years ago.
I stopped going to SFGate because that site is very difficult to navigate given the number of pop-ups. Posting here has become an equally frustrating experience because the op-ups appear while I am typing. Aaarggghhhh.

I agree with others that ads are ok when they are easy to ignore. The problem occurs when they become intrusive.
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10:40a, 12/21/20
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If folks could share screenshots when they see the pop-up ads on mobile and PC that would be very helpful as we troubleshoot the problem
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10:56a, 12/21/20
Can't post images if you aren't a member.
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11:13a, 12/21/20
Yes you can. You need to use. ibb. You download a photo from your pictures and then they give you a code you can paste here.
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In reply to oskidunker • 5:23a, 12/22/20
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Yes you can. You need to use. ibb. You download a photo from your pictures and then they give you a code you can paste here.


Thankfully a member from the BI staff let me send a screenshot through an email response. I'll have to look into IBB. I have no idea what that is.
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5:23p, 12/22/20
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We have materially curtailed these ads but have not eliminated them outright. If you're a premium subscriber, you should never see them. As a free member, please let us know if you still feel they are happening all the time in an egregious way.
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In reply to BearGreg • 7:57a, 12/23/20
BearGreg said:
We have materially curtailed these ads but have not eliminated them outright. If you're a premium subscriber, you should never see them. As a free member, please let us know if you still feel they are happening all the time in an egregious way.

I visit BI primarily through my IPhone and not my laptop. I have noticed only a very slight improvement (if any).
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9:51a, 12/23/20
I generally view BI on an iPad mini (8"). The pop ups show up on every screen change. The bigger the screen, the less nuisance. Used to get pop up left center of the screen every time, now seeing it show up towards the bottom of the screen on occasion which is less intrusive.
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I generally view BI on an iPad mini (8"). The pop ups show up on every screen change. The bigger the screen, the less nuisance. Used to get pop up left center of the screen every time, now seeing it show up towards the bottom of the screen on occasion which is less intrusive.
Edge banners appear with each screen change and have started to reappear after my clicking them off. Also, right corner ads now popping up in square config. Last week, a banner appeared across the middle, right over the message I was typing in - couldn't close it. Happened twice, then disappeared into an Edge bottom screen banner. This is on a laptop.
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In reply to BearGreg • 7:17p, 12/25/20
BearGreg said:
We have materially curtailed these ads but have not eliminated them outright. If you're a premium subscriber, you should never see them. As a free member, please let us know if you still feel they are happening all the time in an egregious way.
I am premium and do not even go on BI on my iPhone for two reasons. You do not know who I am and I have to log in each time I go, and two, the pop up adds control the whole bottom of the screen to this day.

Now, none of that happens on my PC and there is where I reside, but seems like it should not be that way.
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In reply to BearGreg • 7:58p, 12/25/20
BearGreg said:
We have materially curtailed these ads but have not eliminated them outright. If you're a premium subscriber, you should never see them. As a free member, please let us know if you still feel they are happening all the time in an egregious way.


Every new window.

Its a terrible experience. Not exaggerating: this sites ad slots are what you would see in 2012 or 2013.

The most egregious part, from an advertisers perspective, is that nearly 100% of you banner ads are half or fully covered by a pop up when the page loads. The volume if probably low enough that no one cares, but (again, back in 2012), we would see that a lot (stacking ad slots) and getting quality advertising was impossible.

As an aside... we used to have a "home run" game in 2012 where the user would score points hitting home runs by swiping up from the bottom of the screen. If ANY campaign had clickthrough problems, it would get dumped on that app and the ad would pop up as the pitch was thrown. 100% CTR. We would always mark that as fraud if we found it happening.

This isnt as bad as that, but it fits with those "anything goes" times.
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In reply to OdontoBear66 • 5:55a, 12/26/20
OdontoBear66 said:
BearGreg said:
We have materially curtailed these ads but have not eliminated them outright. If you're a premium subscriber, you should never see them. As a free member, please let us know if you still feel they are happening all the time in an egregious way.
I am premium and do not even go on BI on my iPhone for two reasons. You do not know who I am and I have to log in each time I go, and two, the pop up adds control the whole bottom of the screen to this day.

Now, none of that happens on my PC and there is where I reside, but seems like it should not be that way.
I'm on a laptop and it happens to me - every time.

PS If I buy a box of Mahatma Rice will they stop plastering their banner directly across the middle of my screen? No way to kill it as we're able to do with the edge banner across the bottom, but it disappears after 30 secs or so.

PPS The edge banner overlays the Post button along with everything else that I might want to click there and across the rest of the bottom.
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7:38a, 12/26/20
Install Ad Blocker.
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12:59p, 12/26/20
"Troubleshoot the problem" lol
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11:12p, 3/26/21
Note to the Mod. Congratulations-you now have Instacart pop-ups that occupy the whole page. The whole format has turned into a huge mess.
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I have not seen a material difference in the frequency or placement of pop up ads. All it does is keep me from coming back. By the way has Sonny Dykes won us a championship yet?
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In reply to CALiforniALUM • 7:27a, 3/28/21
CALiforniALUM said:
I have not seen a material difference in the frequency or placement of pop up ads. All it does is keep me from coming back. By the way has Sonny Dykes won us a championship yet?
OK, so it's annoying. When you compare it to the original Bear Backers or that Italian guy at Ford Motor Company (waaaaaaaaaaaay back - forgot his name - sent out a 2 page hard copy, once a month), it's pretty good.
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In reply to OdontoBear66 • 8:29a, 3/28/21
OdontoBear66 said:
BearGreg said:
We have materially curtailed these ads but have not eliminated them outright. If you're a premium subscriber, you should never see them. As a free member, please let us know if you still feel they are happening all the time in an egregious way.
I am premium and do not even go on BI on my iPhone for two reasons. You do not know who I am and I have to log in each time I go, and two, the pop up adds control the whole bottom of the screen to this day.


I'm on an iPhone

No ads. Don't need to log in each time.

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In reply to CALiforniALUM • 8:42a, 3/28/21
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I have not seen a material difference in the frequency or placement of pop up ads. All it does is keep me from coming back. By the way has Sonny Dykes won us a championship yet?

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In reply to HoopDreams • 9:44p, 3/28/21
HoopDreams said:
OdontoBear66 said:
BearGreg said:
We have materially curtailed these ads but have not eliminated them outright. If you're a premium subscriber, you should never see them. As a free member, please let us know if you still feel they are happening all the time in an egregious way.
I am premium and do not even go on BI on my iPhone for two reasons. You do not know who I am and I have to log in each time I go, and two, the pop up adds control the whole bottom of the screen to this day.


I'm on an iPhone

No ads. Don't need to log in each time.


I am on an iPhone.
For a while after so many of us complained it got better for a short time (pop-ups did not appear on every screen change.)
But now the situation has gotten worse over the past few months.
Not only are the pop-ups there with almost every screen change blocking lower 1/4 of screen. But every 3 or 4 pop-up winds up blocking 1/2 of the screen.
The only thing I can do is try to X it out. But with my large finger and small screen I often wind up opening the *******!!!! Pop-up instead of closing it.
To me it feels like intentional water torture by the admins to force me to become a subscriber.
But this merely brings out the Berkeley in me:
Hel*, No! I won't go!
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8:23a, 3/29/21
So, I really HATE doing this, because they deserve SOME revenue to continue operations. But they haven't made any effort to clean this garbage up and that is very bad for users:

Big hatchet solution:

Go to your site settings: ->
Go to "allow JavaScript"
Click add site exception, add "bearinsider.com"

Or download an adblocker from the store.

Kills the pop ups. With iOS14.5+ this problem will get worse as sites lose revenue, they will just increase ad frequency to make up for it.

I really wish the admins here had done something to mitigate the issue instead of forcing me to kill all their ads.

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8:24a, 3/29/21
The negative is that everything about interactions works on JavaScript. So it's hard to edit, reply, star etc.

But you can browse freely.
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8:25a, 3/29/21
Ads don't work anyway. Who even looks at the ****ing ads... The entire thing is a con.
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In reply to LunchTime • 10:21a, 3/29/21
LunchTime said:
The negative is that everything about interactions works on JavaScript. So it's hard to edit, reply, star etc.

But you can browse freely.


Thank you for taking the time to type up these instructions. I tried it and yes it did get rid of the pop ups but as you also pointed out it made the site unusable. I couldn't even get to any of the forums. I was stuck on some main page I'd never visited before. Maybe I'll try an ad blocker. It's annoying but maybe not that annoying. Again, I'm not paying so...
I get more annoyed with all the ads on YoutubeTV after paying more and more for it. If my wife and kids didn't mind I'd cancel it. Charge me or advertise the hell out of me but don't do both.
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