Arizona State Game Thread

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Big C
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Andre Kelly seems a little more explosive this evening! Bears up 30-29 at the half!
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stu said:

When is the last time we killed an opponent on the boards like this?
It's been a while. Quite the stark turn-around from getting massacred on the boards against USC and UCLA.
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Don't forget rebounds

A key to the first half




NathanAllen said:

Cal up one at halftime. The way this started, that's kind of a miracle.

Revisiting some of the keys laid out at the beginning of the tread:

Bradley's health. Seven points, six rebounds, and just one foul is good. It hasn't been efficient (10 field goal attempts and just seven points), but it's been enough and Bradley looks mobile enough.

Contain Martin and Verge. So far, so good. Both have six so far as ASU's offense really stalled after the first 10 minutes and Fox put a zone on them.

Turnovers and threes. Just six turnovers to ASU's five and three three-pointers to ASU's zero. Solid.

Pace. They're currently right at about 68 possession pace. That's right where Cal wants it. After the first portion of the half when Cal looked a bit frantic, they settled in a bit. The zone has helped slow things down as well.

All in all, a solid half and Cal is doing what it needs to do so far to steal a road win.
Big C
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It's always funny, the ebb and flow of a game: I was just about to write the Bears off this evening...
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HoopDreams said:

Don't forget rebounds

A key to the first half




NathanAllen said:

Cal up one at halftime. The way this started, that's kind of a miracle.

Revisiting some of the keys laid out at the beginning of the tread:

Bradley's health. Seven points, six rebounds, and just one foul is good. It hasn't been efficient (10 field goal attempts and just seven points), but it's been enough and Bradley looks mobile enough.

Contain Martin and Verge. So far, so good. Both have six so far as ASU's offense really stalled after the first 10 minutes and Fox put a zone on them.

Turnovers and threes. Just six turnovers to ASU's five and three three-pointers to ASU's zero. Solid.

Pace. They're currently right at about 68 possession pace. That's right where Cal wants it. After the first portion of the half when Cal looked a bit frantic, they settled in a bit. The zone has helped slow things down as well.

All in all, a solid half and Cal is doing what it needs to do so far to steal a road win.

I was just revisiting what I put in the OP, but yeah, that's been another differentiator. Cal actually just has seven points off those 12 offensive boards. But those seven points have given them the lead.
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Big C said:


It's always funny, the ebb and flow of a game: I was just about to write the Bears off this evening...
The gift and curse of college hoops. Anything can happen. Momentum shifts and runs happen all the time.

I also wonder if this is where not having fans in the stadium can really hurt the home team. Cal was really able to counter that start. Maybe ASU keeps pouring it on with a stadium full of fans (or at least half-full).
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Let's Go Bears!!!!!

They are doing well rebounding but need to stop missing easy shots and limit turnovers.....
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Big C said:


Andre Kelly seems a little more explosive this evening! Bears up 30-29 at the half!


He has a severe case of the Ups tonight!
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HoopDreams
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I said before game we need 10 point lead late to win this game

Doesn't look like that will happen
stu
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We give up an uncontested dunk when Brown, our fastest player, jogs back on defense and leaves ASU with more guys than we have near the basket.
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HoopDreams said:

I said before game we need 10 point lead late to win this game

Doesn't look like that will happen
How about the last 10 points?
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I find Casey's comments about hairstyles cringeworthy. Exactly how many feet deep is he going to dig that hole?
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HoopDreams said:

I said before game we need 10 point lead late to win this game

Doesn't look like that will happen
Whoa, whoa, whoa. It could definitely still happen!
HoopDreams
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So I get that euro step looks like a walk

But that was a walk
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Yes, we are right there and can still win

But I've seen Remy break our heart too many times in last 5 minutes

NathanAllen said:

HoopDreams said:

I said before game we need 10 point lead late to win this game

Doesn't look like that will happen
Whoa, whoa, whoa. It could definitely still happen!
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I'm obviously biased, but regardless if Cal wins or loses this game, I'm happy we have a team that doesn't look to the refs and throws up their arms every time there is slight contact.
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Nice job forgetting about Kevin Johnson, Casey.
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I'm also confused why Bobby Hurley is putting Josh Christopher as the primary defender on Matt. Seems ... not ideal for them.
Big C
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bearister said:

Big C said:


Andre Kelly seems a little more explosive this evening! Bears up 30-29 at the half!


He has a severe case of the Ups tonight!

Kelly with 16 and 11... eight minutes left.
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Hyder has only played 16 minutes yet he leads the team with 3 turnovers. He need to protect the ball better for a point guard.
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NathanAllen said:

I'm also confused why Bobby Hurley is putting Josh Christopher as the primary defender on Matt. Seems ... not ideal for them.
To follow up on this, ASU clearly doesn't have a wing to match Bradley's size that can also provide some offense, so Christopher is what they have. But I'd consider moving Verge or someone with a bit more experience to cover Bradley. But I'm also just a dude on the couch.
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Breathe on Martin and they call a foul.
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Bear8995 said:

Breathe on Martin and they call a foul.
Eh. Some pretty weak calls both ways, IMO.
Bear8995
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Foreman takes some really crappy shots sometimes.
HoopDreams
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Good time to hit a 3 but have we forgot Kelly has been most effective player?
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Bear8995 said:

Foreman takes some really crappy shots sometimes.
Yeah, that wasn't ideal. Keep feeding Bradley. Christopher can't keep up and they need to keep exploiting it.
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Bradley has missed 4-5 layups this game he would normally make. That plus the missed free throws are huge
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I don't understand how they called that a three on the foul??? Also, he got screened into the shooter.
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NeverOddOrEven said:

I don't understand how they called that a three on the foul??? Also, he got screened into the shooter.


Terrible call
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Brady

The ultimate competitor
IssyBear
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I hope this position, Bradley doesn't drive, miss the shot, get fouled and make 1 of 2 free throws.
Bear8995
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Really bad game for Grant. That was a horrible turnover.
MilleniaBear
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Anybody notice at the 9:30 seconds left in the second half the slow scoreboard? We made a 2 and I looked to the score and they gave 2 to ASU. Nobody said anything n 10 seconds later they gave 2 to Cal. I waited for them to subtract 2 from ASU but nope. We're they so slow that cal had managed to score 2 before they had added a previous 2 to ASU?
NeverOddOrEven
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Why wasn't that a 1 and 1? I don't understand? FS1 has been horrible with the scoring all day, so maybe they made the mistake?
Big C
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72-68 final. We were competitive!
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