Cal-Stanfurd in the Pac 12 Tournament (Game Thread)

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HoopDreams said:




Jackpot!
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KoreAmBear said:

Betley grinding a knife into Haase's wounds. I love it!!!! Have a little fun after a brutal season.
Betley had a great game ... 4-5 shooting, including 3-4 from deep and 2-2 from the line, plus 4 rebounds

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From the Card board.


What a joke this team has become. And Haase needs serious scrutiny after losing the last five games of the season in ignominious fashion. Is he really the person to bring Cardinal basketball out of the wilderness? Far from clear to me. All the good will and expectations this team built up have been squandered. Bleak indeed.
Go Bears!
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oskidunker said:

From the Card board.


What a joke this team has become. And Haase needs serious scrutiny after losing the last five games of the season in ignominious fashion. Is he really the person to bring Cardinal basketball out of the wilderness? Far from clear to me. All the good will and expectations this team built up have been squandered. Bleak indeed.
and they can't even use the excuse da silva, willis, and davis didn't play
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HoopDreams said:

KoreAmBear said:

Betley grinding a knife into Haase's wounds. I love it!!!! Have a little fun after a brutal season.
Betley had a great game ... 4-5 shooting, including 3-4 from deep and 2-2 from the line, plus 4 rebounds




Congrats to Betley! I've been the biggest critic of his getting so many minutes and taking so many shots (most 3 point attempts in the entire PAC-12) but he came up big today!
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oskidunker said:

From the Card board.


What a joke this team has become. And Haase needs serious scrutiny after losing the last five games of the season in ignominious fashion. Is he really the person to bring Cardinal basketball out of the wilderness? Far from clear to me. All the good will and expectations this team built up have been squandered. Bleak indeed.
Haase must be one of the biggest under achievers in college basketball

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Bear8995 said:

Hyder is a turnover machine. He traveled on that play. We are lucky they didn't call it. Thrown it away twice against the press. This is where Brown's poor free throw shooting really hurts. Guess Foreman is hurt. We lack ball handlers.


Walton said Foreman had a death in the family and had not been practicing with the team all week.
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oskidunker said:

From the Card board.


What a joke this team has become. And Haase needs serious scrutiny after losing the last five games of the season in ignominious fashion. Is he really the person to bring Cardinal basketball out of the wilderness? Far from clear to me. All the good will and expectations this team built up have been squandered. Bleak indeed.


Schadenfurd!
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HoopDreams said:

oskidunker said:

From the Card board.


What a joke this team has become. And Haase needs serious scrutiny after losing the last five games of the season in ignominious fashion. Is he really the person to bring Cardinal basketball out of the wilderness? Far from clear to me. All the good will and expectations this team built up have been squandered. Bleak indeed.
Haase must be one of the biggest under achievers in college basketball


NBA level players, very little results.
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Toughest Team Wins
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F***. Yes.
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oskidunker said:

Colorado has lost some puzzling games to not so good teams.

No s*** . They even lost one to CAL!
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Don't say that, he's the right fit there
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This is the best game I've seen up play all season. We played hard, smart, together, and most of all the shots went down. How to keep it going?
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KoreAmBear said:

HoopDreams said:

oskidunker said:

From the Card board.


What a joke this team has become. And Haase needs serious scrutiny after losing the last five games of the season in ignominious fashion. Is he really the person to bring Cardinal basketball out of the wilderness? Far from clear to me. All the good will and expectations this team built up have been squandered. Bleak indeed.
Haase must be one of the biggest under achievers in college basketball


NBA level players, very little results.

Depends on your metrics... because they always look great in December. You gotta give him that.
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SBGold said:

Don't say that, he's the right fit there

Yeah this is a great time to get Haase into a 10-year contract, while his value is low!
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Matt Bradley is SO VERY special. (I hope we can forever put to rest the nonsense we heard earlier from some (including Mike Montgomery) about Bradley being a poor passer and selfish offensive player.)

Such a fun game. Congrats to the team! Go Bears!!
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stu said:

This is the best game I've seen up play all season. We played hard, smart, together, and most of all the shots went down. How to keep it going?


This team has played like this for portions of games, but never a whole game and rarely (ever?) closing out a game.
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91Cal said:

stu said:

This is the best game I've seen up play all season. We played hard, smart, together, and most of all the shots went down. How to keep it going?


This team has played like this for portions of games, but never a whole game and rarely (ever?) closing out a game.
I thought our best half was @ Utah and our best game was v. CU. This was a lot of fun though!
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HoopDreams said:

Unbelievable to allow that score, but he had 6 seconds because of our horrible play on the other side

If you are going to run a last play you got to start later so it truly is the last shot

There was a 5-second differential. The problem was that, for reasons unknown to mankind, the ball was in Hyder's hands (not Bradley's, of course).
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drizzlybear said:

Matt Bradley is SO VERY special. (I hope we can forever put to rest the nonsense we heard earlier from some (including Mike Montgomery) about Bradley being a poor passer and selfish offensive player.)

Such a fun game. Congrats to the team! Go Bears!!



In fairness, during the season both Monty and Braun opined Bradley is an NBA player...which surprised but delighted me.
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Dear 89: He's coming off serious surgery. That might be an explanation.
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Some things I really liked about this win:
1. Da Silva played (not 100%, but still pretty darn good).
2. Cal did NOT play a perfect game by any means. Way too many turnovers by our PGs.
3. Cal pulled away down the stretch.
4. A moment of joy and accomplishment for this team after such a brutal season in so many ways. So happy for the team.
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KoreAmBear said:

Bear8995 said:

Hyder is a turnover machine. He traveled on that play. We are lucky they didn't call it. Thrown it away twice against the press. This is where Brown's poor free throw shooting really hurts. Guess Foreman is hurt. We lack ball handlers.


Walton said Foreman had a death in the family and had not been practicing with the team all week.


Thanks. Did not hear that. I kind of block out Walton. Now that I think about it, I blocked out Robinson too since he is a Furd homer.
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KoreAmBear said:

91Cal said:

stu said:

This is the best game I've seen up play all season. We played hard, smart, together, and most of all the shots went down. How to keep it going?


This team has played like this for portions of games, but never a whole game and rarely (ever?) closing out a game.
I thought our best half was @ Utah and our best game was v. CU. This was a lot of fun though!


Agree
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Great win for the Bears! I'll bet Tad Boyle notices the problems that Hyder had with the Stanford press towards the end of the game. Hopefully Fox gets the guys out before tonight's game to walk through their press break.
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Congrats Bears, great job!!! First Cal FB/MBB/WBB win over not only FURD this season but over any California rival! Where was this team all year before now? As for FURD maybe they should have Tara move over from their women's team and coach their men's team instead!
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HearstMining said:

Great win for the Bears! I'll bet Tad Boyle notices the problems that Hyder had with the Stanford press towards the end of the game. Hopefully Fox gets the guys out before tonight's game to walk through their press break.
Also CU will be ready for Jalen Celestine. Remember he went off for 4 triples. That put CU on their heels all game. But maybe they will overplay him which gives Matt more space. We also contained McKinley Wright probably better than anyone (I recall Joel Brown had the assignment and stepped up big). We have a chance if we can lock him up again, but that will be hard.
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concernedparent said:

Love it. Betley drilling the 3 from 26 ft out with time left on the shot clock.

I loved the game, except for that shot by Betley. You don't ever do that in any sport, with the game already over, scoring a final time when you are way ahead with a few seconds left on the clock, sticking it in the opponent's face, rubbing salt in the opponent's wound. Haase may get fired, but Stanford players will remember that lack of sportsmanship for a long time, and many of them will face Cal again next year, in a PO'd frame of mind. If he didn't realize the score, maybe he has an excuse, otherwise it was selfish or dumb.
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concernedparent said:

Love it. Betley drilling the 3 from 26 ft out with time left on the shot clock.

I loved the game, except for that shot by Betley. You don't ever do that in any sport, with the game already over, scoring a final time when you are way ahead with a few seconds left on the clock, sticking it in the opponent's face, rubbing salt in the opponent's wound. Haase may get fired, but Stanford players will remember that lack of sportsmanship for a long time, and many of them will face Cal again next year, in a PO'd frame of mind. If he didn't realize the score, maybe he has an excuse, otherwise it was selfish or dumb.
The shot clock was about to expire. You don't just give them the ball back.
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SFCityBear said:

concernedparent said:

Love it. Betley drilling the 3 from 26 ft out with time left on the shot clock.

I loved the game, except for that shot by Betley. You don't ever do that in any sport, with the game already over, scoring a final time when you are way ahead with a few seconds left on the clock, sticking it in the opponent's face, rubbing salt in the opponent's wound. Haase may get fired, but Stanford players will remember that lack of sportsmanship for a long time, and many of them will face Cal again next year, in a PO'd frame of mind. If he didn't realize the score, maybe he has an excuse, otherwise it was selfish or dumb.
couldn't agree less.
That was nothing more than a player tossing up a 35 footer as the shot clock was expiring.

No one will remember that in a week
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MoragaBear said:

SFCityBear said:

concernedparent said:

Love it. Betley drilling the 3 from 26 ft out with time left on the shot clock.

I loved the game, except for that shot by Betley. You don't ever do that in any sport, with the game already over, scoring a final time when you are way ahead with a few seconds left on the clock, sticking it in the opponent's face, rubbing salt in the opponent's wound. Haase may get fired, but Stanford players will remember that lack of sportsmanship for a long time, and many of them will face Cal again next year, in a PO'd frame of mind. If he didn't realize the score, maybe he has an excuse, otherwise it was selfish or dumb.
The shot clock was about to expire. You don't just give them the ball back.
agree with MB

if he didn't shoot it, it would have been counted as a turnover

the fact that we didn't run an offense, and Betley just jacked up a shot from downtown is not unsportsman like

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MoragaBear said:

SFCityBear said:

concernedparent said:

Love it. Betley drilling the 3 from 26 ft out with time left on the shot clock.

I loved the game, except for that shot by Betley. You don't ever do that in any sport, with the game already over, scoring a final time when you are way ahead with a few seconds left on the clock, sticking it in the opponent's face, rubbing salt in the opponent's wound. Haase may get fired, but Stanford players will remember that lack of sportsmanship for a long time, and many of them will face Cal again next year, in a PO'd frame of mind. If he didn't realize the score, maybe he has an excuse, otherwise it was selfish or dumb.
The shot clock was about to expire. You don't just give them the ball back.
Agreed. In the shot-clock era, you take the shot in the last few seconds. No opposing coach/team would disagree.
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SFCityBear said:

concernedparent said:

Love it. Betley drilling the 3 from 26 ft out with time left on the shot clock.

I loved the game, except for that shot by Betley. You don't ever do that in any sport, with the game already over, scoring a final time when you are way ahead with a few seconds left on the clock, sticking it in the opponent's face, rubbing salt in the opponent's wound. Haase may get fired, but Stanford players will remember that lack of sportsmanship for a long time, and many of them will face Cal again next year, in a PO'd frame of mind. If he didn't realize the score, maybe he has an excuse, otherwise it was selfish or dumb.
I get your point and generally agree. But my take that was that Betley was not used to being in this situation (game in hand, Cal up big) so his instincts kicked in (unaware of the score excuse). Maybe if it happens more often in the very near future, he can wait until the shot clock expires. I don't really think any of the Stanford players will exact revenge next season.
 
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