NathanAllen said:

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BeachedBear said:

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Fired OR Resignation, I'm surprised either way.

I can imagine (boldly - pure speculation - just for ****s and giggles) two reasons for a resignation.

1. The Kuzma payoff catches up to him and he wants to part ways ahead of it, or (more likely IMHO),

2. He feels he's reached the ceiling of where he can go with Utah. Although Rick Majerus shattered that concept, I could see how Larry K could feel that way after enough years.

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I'm wrong again. The school is calling it a termination and, per a statement, says his termination and the hiring of the new staff will be fully funded by "athletically-generated resources." His buyout was $6.5M.

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calumnus said:

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NathanAllen said:

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BeachedBear said:

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Fired OR Resignation, I'm surprised either way.

I can imagine (boldly - pure speculation - just for ****s and giggles) two reasons for a resignation.

1. The Kuzma payoff catches up to him and he wants to part ways ahead of it, or (more likely IMHO),

2. He feels he's reached the ceiling of where he can go with Utah. Although Rick Majerus shattered that concept, I could see how Larry K could feel that way after enough years.

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I'm wrong again. The school is calling it a termination and, per a statement, says his termination and the hiring of the new staff will be fully funded by "athletically-generated resources." His buyout was $6.5M.

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The wheels fell off the last two years. Prior to that he was consistently the 3rd in the PAC-12 and a bubble team after getting to the Sweet 16 six years ago.

He is a good Xs and Os coach. He consistently runs one of the most efficient offenses in the country. His challenge is recruiting. He was very successful at Montana but failed in his is brief stint as an NBA coach. He is essentially a copy of his old coach, Mike Montgomery. Montgomery just had that run at Stanford where started getting top recruits.

It will be interesting to see where Krystkowiak ends up and who Utah gets.

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sluggo said:

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calumnus said:

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NathanAllen said:

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BeachedBear said:

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Fired OR Resignation, I'm surprised either way.

I can imagine (boldly - pure speculation - just for ****s and giggles) two reasons for a resignation.

1. The Kuzma payoff catches up to him and he wants to part ways ahead of it, or (more likely IMHO),

2. He feels he's reached the ceiling of where he can go with Utah. Although Rick Majerus shattered that concept, I could see how Larry K could feel that way after enough years.

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I'm wrong again. The school is calling it a termination and, per a statement, says his termination and the hiring of the new staff will be fully funded by "athletically-generated resources." His buyout was $6.5M.

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The wheels fell off the last two years. Prior to that he was consistently the 3rd in the PAC-12 and a bubble team after getting to the Sweet 16 six years ago.

He is a good Xs and Os coach. He consistently runs one of the most efficient offenses in the country. His challenge is recruiting. He was very successful at Montana but failed in his is brief stint as an NBA coach. He is essentially a copy of his old coach, Mike Montgomery. Montgomery just had that run at Stanford where started getting top recruits.

It will be interesting to see where Krystkowiak ends up and who Utah gets.

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Agreed. When they played Cal they looked like their talent was second best. Quite a change from Wright, Kuzma, Poeltl and some good role players.

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calumnus said:

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sluggo said:

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calumnus said:

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NathanAllen said:

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BeachedBear said:

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Fired OR Resignation, I'm surprised either way.

I can imagine (boldly - pure speculation - just for ****s and giggles) two reasons for a resignation.

1. The Kuzma payoff catches up to him and he wants to part ways ahead of it, or (more likely IMHO),

2. He feels he's reached the ceiling of where he can go with Utah. Although Rick Majerus shattered that concept, I could see how Larry K could feel that way after enough years.

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I'm wrong again. The school is calling it a termination and, per a statement, says his termination and the hiring of the new staff will be fully funded by "athletically-generated resources." His buyout was $6.5M.

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The wheels fell off the last two years. Prior to that he was consistently the 3rd in the PAC-12 and a bubble team after getting to the Sweet 16 six years ago.

He is a good Xs and Os coach. He consistently runs one of the most efficient offenses in the country. His challenge is recruiting. He was very successful at Montana but failed in his is brief stint as an NBA coach. He is essentially a copy of his old coach, Mike Montgomery. Montgomery just had that run at Stanford where started getting top recruits.

It will be interesting to see where Krystkowiak ends up and who Utah gets.

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Agreed. When they played Cal they looked like their talent was second best. Quite a change from Wright, Kuzma, Poeltl and some good role players.

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Who would want a young Mike Montgomery? Maybe Stanford? It would be scary to see him coach up their talent.

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joe amos yaks said:

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uU will hire uMontana Coach Decuire.

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sluggo said:

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calumnus said:

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sluggo said:

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calumnus said:

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NathanAllen said:

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BeachedBear said:

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Fired OR Resignation, I'm surprised either way.

I can imagine (boldly - pure speculation - just for ****s and giggles) two reasons for a resignation.

1. The Kuzma payoff catches up to him and he wants to part ways ahead of it, or (more likely IMHO),

2. He feels he's reached the ceiling of where he can go with Utah. Although Rick Majerus shattered that concept, I could see how Larry K could feel that way after enough years.

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I'm wrong again. The school is calling it a termination and, per a statement, says his termination and the hiring of the new staff will be fully funded by "athletically-generated resources." His buyout was $6.5M.

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The wheels fell off the last two years. Prior to that he was consistently the 3rd in the PAC-12 and a bubble team after getting to the Sweet 16 six years ago.

He is a good Xs and Os coach. He consistently runs one of the most efficient offenses in the country. His challenge is recruiting. He was very successful at Montana but failed in his is brief stint as an NBA coach. He is essentially a copy of his old coach, Mike Montgomery. Montgomery just had that run at Stanford where started getting top recruits.

It will be interesting to see where Krystkowiak ends up and who Utah gets.

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Agreed. When they played Cal they looked like their talent was second best. Quite a change from Wright, Kuzma, Poeltl and some good role players.

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Who would want a young Mike Montgomery? Maybe Stanford? It would be scary to see him coach up their talent.

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A young Monty? Coach K? He is 56. A mid-career Monty. I hope he sits out a year and comes here in 2022.

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MilleniaBear said:

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i'm way more impressed by him than our current coach. He could recruit better here than at Utah.

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HoopDreams said:

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Coach K is a very good coach in the mold of Monty. Tough defense, disciplined offense that got the most of the talent. Like Monty, he was best with a dominant big.

but their recruiting fell off recently, and he completely under-utilized Kuzma, and utah probably didn't see the ROI from his huge salary

I think Utah is a fairly attractive job, and I'd expect Coach K will land somewhere good (hopefully not in the pac12), although I doubt he demands the same lofty salary

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Big C said:

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Krystkowiak's a good coach. I'm not sure he sees himself fitting in at Cal. IIRC, we inquired at some point (right after Monty?).

I'd be interested to find out more about why he left, which side was the main initiator and why.

I'm also curious what Utah's plans are. Do they want to be big time? They were lucky to have Majerus there for awhile. It would seem to me that Utah has some natural recruiting disadvantages, both geographic and cultural.

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Big C said:

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HoopDreams said:

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Coach K is a very good coach in the mold of Monty. Tough defense, disciplined offense that got the most of the talent. Like Monty, he was best with a dominant big.

but their recruiting fell off recently, and he completely under-utilized Kuzma, and utah probably didn't see the ROI from his huge salary

I think Utah is a fairly attractive job, and I'd expect Coach K will land somewhere good (hopefully not in the pac12), although I doubt he demands the same lofty salary

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He sure as heck didn't under-utilize Kuzma against us. If you don't believe me, ask Ivan Rabb.

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HoopDreams said:

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Coach K had the ultimate stretch 4 on his team but rarely used the "stretch" part

When kuzma got to the NBA everyone was surprised he could shoot

Big C said:

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HoopDreams said:

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Coach K is a very good coach in the mold of Monty. Tough defense, disciplined offense that got the most of the talent. Like Monty, he was best with a dominant big.

but their recruiting fell off recently, and he completely under-utilized Kuzma, and utah probably didn't see the ROI from his huge salary

I think Utah is a fairly attractive job, and I'd expect Coach K will land somewhere good (hopefully not in the pac12), although I doubt he demands the same lofty salary

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He sure as heck didn't under-utilize Kuzma against us. If you don't believe me, ask Ivan Rabb.

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Civil Bear said:

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HoopDreams said:

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Coach K had the ultimate stretch 4 on his team but rarely used the "stretch" part

When kuzma got to the NBA everyone was surprised he could shoot

Big C said:

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HoopDreams said:

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Coach K is a very good coach in the mold of Monty. Tough defense, disciplined offense that got the most of the talent. Like Monty, he was best with a dominant big.

but their recruiting fell off recently, and he completely under-utilized Kuzma, and utah probably didn't see the ROI from his huge salary

I think Utah is a fairly attractive job, and I'd expect Coach K will land somewhere good (hopefully not in the pac12), although I doubt he demands the same lofty salary

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He sure as heck didn't under-utilize Kuzma against us. If you don't believe me, ask Ivan Rabb.

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Kuzma shot .302 from behind the arc while at Utah. Of course everyone was surprised. Perhaps he worked hard and improved in that area. Or perhaps Jalen Brown should have shot more threes while at Cal.

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BearSD said:

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Civil Bear said:

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HoopDreams said:

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Coach K had the ultimate stretch 4 on his team but rarely used the "stretch" part

When kuzma got to the NBA everyone was surprised he could shoot

Big C said:

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HoopDreams said:

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Coach K is a very good coach in the mold of Monty. Tough defense, disciplined offense that got the most of the talent. Like Monty, he was best with a dominant big.

but their recruiting fell off recently, and he completely under-utilized Kuzma, and utah probably didn't see the ROI from his huge salary

I think Utah is a fairly attractive job, and I'd expect Coach K will land somewhere good (hopefully not in the pac12), although I doubt he demands the same lofty salary

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He sure as heck didn't under-utilize Kuzma against us. If you don't believe me, ask Ivan Rabb.

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Kuzma shot .302 from behind the arc while at Utah. Of course everyone was surprised. Perhaps he worked hard and improved in that area. Or perhaps Jalen Brown should have shot more threes while at Cal.

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Kuzma gets a lot more wide open looks now, when he's on the floor with two future Hall of Famers, than he did when he was, by far, the best player on his Ute team.

Jaylen Brown, on the other hand, was definitely under-utilized and under-coached by Cuonzo Martin and staff.

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NathanAllen said:

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BearSD said:

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Civil Bear said:

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HoopDreams said:

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Coach K had the ultimate stretch 4 on his team but rarely used the "stretch" part

When kuzma got to the NBA everyone was surprised he could shoot

Big C said:

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HoopDreams said:

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Coach K is a very good coach in the mold of Monty. Tough defense, disciplined offense that got the most of the talent. Like Monty, he was best with a dominant big.

but their recruiting fell off recently, and he completely under-utilized Kuzma, and utah probably didn't see the ROI from his huge salary

I think Utah is a fairly attractive job, and I'd expect Coach K will land somewhere good (hopefully not in the pac12), although I doubt he demands the same lofty salary

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He sure as heck didn't under-utilize Kuzma against us. If you don't believe me, ask Ivan Rabb.

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Kuzma shot .302 from behind the arc while at Utah. Of course everyone was surprised. Perhaps he worked hard and improved in that area. Or perhaps Jalen Brown should have shot more threes while at Cal.

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Kuzma gets a lot more wide open looks now, when he's on the floor with two future Hall of Famers, than he did when he was, by far, the best player on his Ute team.

Jaylen Brown, on the other hand, was definitely under-utilized and under-coached by Cuonzo Martin and staff.

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Jaylen Brown had the 20th-highest Poss% in all of college hoops. His Poss% of 31.2% was almost identical to Bradley's this year (31.3%). Him, Bradley this season, Tyrone Wallace in 2015, and Leon Powe in 2006 are the only Cal players since KenPom began keeping stats on Poss% in 2002 to have a Poss% of 30.0% or higher. Brown was literally the third-most used/utilized player for Cal over the past two decades, and possibly more.

He also led the team in Shot%, FT attempts, and 2P attempts. The only two players that shot more 3P attempts than him were Jordan Matthews and Jabari Bird, who each shot 42% and 41%, respectively, for 3P%. Brown shot 29% from three at Cal. The two-best 3P shooters on the team took the vast majority of the 3P attempts and if anything, Brown should've attempted fewer threes. But with a talent like Brown, you give him the green light.

As Sluggo said, some players just get a lot better after they leave college, which doesn't have anything to do with coaching. That's especially the case with one-and-dones. They're like 19 when they go into the league. There's so much room and time for growth physically, mentally, and skill-wise.

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calumnus said:

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sluggo said:

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calumnus said:

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sluggo said:

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calumnus said:

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NathanAllen said:

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BeachedBear said:

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Fired OR Resignation, I'm surprised either way.

I can imagine (boldly - pure speculation - just for ****s and giggles) two reasons for a resignation.

1. The Kuzma payoff catches up to him and he wants to part ways ahead of it, or (more likely IMHO),

2. He feels he's reached the ceiling of where he can go with Utah. Although Rick Majerus shattered that concept, I could see how Larry K could feel that way after enough years.

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I'm wrong again. The school is calling it a termination and, per a statement, says his termination and the hiring of the new staff will be fully funded by "athletically-generated resources." His buyout was $6.5M.

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The wheels fell off the last two years. Prior to that he was consistently the 3rd in the PAC-12 and a bubble team after getting to the Sweet 16 six years ago.

He is a good Xs and Os coach. He consistently runs one of the most efficient offenses in the country. His challenge is recruiting. He was very successful at Montana but failed in his is brief stint as an NBA coach. He is essentially a copy of his old coach, Mike Montgomery. Montgomery just had that run at Stanford where started getting top recruits.

It will be interesting to see where Krystkowiak ends up and who Utah gets.

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Agreed. When they played Cal they looked like their talent was second best. Quite a change from Wright, Kuzma, Poeltl and some good role players.

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Who would want a young Mike Montgomery? Maybe Stanford? It would be scary to see him coach up their talent.

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A young Monty? Coach K? He is 56. A mid-career Monty. I hope he sits out a year and comes here in 2022.

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Yeah, that is what I meant. Stanford Monty. Younger than Monty was when we hired him.

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