socaltownie said:

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Link broken. What did it say? Full separation or hope for a return?

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Big C said:

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4thGenCal said:

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calfanz said:

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Hope he goes to a top 10 team such as gonzaga, alabama, michigan, etc

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Highly likely Matt will go to San Diego State - wants to play near his family and he also does not feel its right to transfer to another Pac12 school i.e. USC (who reached out to him). Big loss for the program and the staff, very disappointed to see him leave - nothing but wishes for his basketball growth, outstanding young man. He wants to develop the rest of his game, take on more leadership roles and experience winning. He sincerely will miss Berkeley, not finishing his Cal degree and his Church in Oakland. However Basketball growth won out.

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I'm not sure I get the point of transferring from Cal to San Diego State,

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Big C said:

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4thGenCal said:

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calfanz said:

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Hope he goes to a top 10 team such as gonzaga, alabama, michigan, etc

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Highly likely Matt will go to San Diego State - wants to play near his family and he also does not feel its right to transfer to another Pac12 school i.e. USC (who reached out to him). Big loss for the program and the staff, very disappointed to see him leave - nothing but wishes for his basketball growth, outstanding young man. He wants to develop the rest of his game, take on more leadership roles and experience winning. He sincerely will miss Berkeley, not finishing his Cal degree and his Church in Oakland. However Basketball growth won out.

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I'm not sure I get the point of transferring from Cal to San Diego State,

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socaltownie said:

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Big C said:

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4thGenCal said:

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calfanz said:

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Hope he goes to a top 10 team such as gonzaga, alabama, michigan, etc

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Highly likely Matt will go to San Diego State - wants to play near his family and he also does not feel its right to transfer to another Pac12 school i.e. USC (who reached out to him). Big loss for the program and the staff, very disappointed to see him leave - nothing but wishes for his basketball growth, outstanding young man. He wants to develop the rest of his game, take on more leadership roles and experience winning. He sincerely will miss Berkeley, not finishing his Cal degree and his Church in Oakland. However Basketball growth won out.

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I'm not sure I get the point of transferring from Cal to San Diego State,

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At present, FAR better basketball program. They pulled a ****ty draw in Syracuse this year but they are built to get to the second weekend.

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Big C said:

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WalterSobchak said:

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I hope he will transfer to Ucla. I say that even though they are in my Holy Trinity of Hate.
Matt, if you're reading this, do what you need to do for you.
Don't go half way. Go where you can get to The Dance and, if possible, still get a top degree.
If USC is amenable but Ucla isn't, that's a decent backup.
Your loyalty is not in question given the state of this program.

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Why do you hope Cal's best player transfers to UCLA or U$C? Has our world gone mad?

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OaktownBear said:

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Big C said:

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WalterSobchak said:

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I hope he will transfer to Ucla. I say that even though they are in my Holy Trinity of Hate.
Matt, if you're reading this, do what you need to do for you.
Don't go half way. Go where you can get to The Dance and, if possible, still get a top degree.
If USC is amenable but Ucla isn't, that's a decent backup.
Your loyalty is not in question given the state of this program.

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Why do you hope Cal's best player transfers to UCLA or U$C? Has our world gone mad?

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I don't agree with it, but I think for some our program is so far out of the picture that it doesn't matter to us anymore and they want what is best academically for a guy who did serve us well.

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BeachedBear said:

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socaltownie said:

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Big C said:

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4thGenCal said:

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calfanz said:

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Hope he goes to a top 10 team such as gonzaga, alabama, michigan, etc

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Highly likely Matt will go to San Diego State - wants to play near his family and he also does not feel its right to transfer to another Pac12 school i.e. USC (who reached out to him). Big loss for the program and the staff, very disappointed to see him leave - nothing but wishes for his basketball growth, outstanding young man. He wants to develop the rest of his game, take on more leadership roles and experience winning. He sincerely will miss Berkeley, not finishing his Cal degree and his Church in Oakland. However Basketball growth won out.

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I'm not sure I get the point of transferring from Cal to San Diego State,

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At present, FAR better basketball program. They pulled a ****ty draw in Syracuse this year but they are built to get to the second weekend.

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One of my kids graduated from SDSU recently. Their experience (and mine as a parent) was much more like my experience at Cal as a student in the 80s. I honestly was blown away and my perceptions of SDSU (that were formed when I was college age) were totally turned around. At every facet - it seemed to me that SDSU was much more in tune with their students, alumnni, community and other shareholders. While I don't follow their bball program as closely, I am not surprised that it out performs Cal.

Prior to the pandemic, I had the opportunity to meet with Adele De La Torre as well Carol Christ. IMHO, Adele was superior to Carol (who was wearing a Red coat at the time and didn't get the joke, when I said "Take Off That Red Shirt"). Now comparing Carol to Dirks and predecessors - I think she is far superior, albeit she gave me the sense she was just filling in temporarily until they find a replacement. Now I'm just an alumni and don't influence these decisions, but they should look at Adele, when interviewing Carols replacement.

FWIW - all of my kids qualified for Cal, but NONE were accepted

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Big C said:

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OaktownBear said:

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Big C said:

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WalterSobchak said:

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I hope he will transfer to Ucla. I say that even though they are in my Holy Trinity of Hate.
Matt, if you're reading this, do what you need to do for you.
Don't go half way. Go where you can get to The Dance and, if possible, still get a top degree.
If USC is amenable but Ucla isn't, that's a decent backup.
Your loyalty is not in question given the state of this program.

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Why do you hope Cal's best player transfers to UCLA or U$C? Has our world gone mad?

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I don't agree with it, but I think for some our program is so far out of the picture that it doesn't matter to us anymore and they want what is best academically for a guy who did serve us well.

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Wait, now a Cal-to-SDSU transfer is "best academically", too?!? Or did you mean to write "athletically" there?

If Bradley were to transfer to UCLA or U$C, doesn't that then start to become BrennanScarlettesque? And I remember (and agree with) your position on that one.

Look, I LOVED Bradley as a player here... and just his whole persona and what it added to the team. I wish him well and will get through this with minimal bad feelings. He has my respect and admiration. However, I'm not going so far as to send him a dozen roses for this. He leaves Cal to transfer to another school prior to his senior year, he loses points on my scorecard. And being the competitor that he is, I'm sure he understands and appreciates my stance.

"Yay!" for just about everything about Matt Bradley. "Boo!" for him choosing to leave.

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OaktownBear said:

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Big C said:

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OaktownBear said:

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Big C said:

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WalterSobchak said:

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I hope he will transfer to Ucla. I say that even though they are in my Holy Trinity of Hate.
Matt, if you're reading this, do what you need to do for you.
Don't go half way. Go where you can get to The Dance and, if possible, still get a top degree.
If USC is amenable but Ucla isn't, that's a decent backup.
Your loyalty is not in question given the state of this program.

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Why do you hope Cal's best player transfers to UCLA or U$C? Has our world gone mad?

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I don't agree with it, but I think for some our program is so far out of the picture that it doesn't matter to us anymore and they want what is best academically for a guy who did serve us well.

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Wait, now a Cal-to-SDSU transfer is "best academically", too?!? Or did you mean to write "athletically" there?

If Bradley were to transfer to UCLA or U$C, doesn't that then start to become BrennanScarlettesque? And I remember (and agree with) your position on that one.

Look, I LOVED Bradley as a player here... and just his whole persona and what it added to the team. I wish him well and will get through this with minimal bad feelings. He has my respect and admiration. However, I'm not going so far as to send him a dozen roses for this. He leaves Cal to transfer to another school prior to his senior year, he loses points on my scorecard. And being the competitor that he is, I'm sure he understands and appreciates my stance.

"Yay!" for just about everything about Matt Bradley. "Boo!" for him choosing to leave.

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You need to reread the thread of the conversation. The point was that UCLA and USC would be better academically than SDSU. Your question was why people would hope he transfers to USC or UCLA.

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WalterSobchak said:

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Big C said:

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WalterSobchak said:

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I hope he will transfer to Ucla. I say that even though they are in my Holy Trinity of Hate.
Matt, if you're reading this, do what you need to do for you.
Don't go half way. Go where you can get to The Dance and, if possible, still get a top degree.
If USC is amenable but Ucla isn't, that's a decent backup.
Your loyalty is not in question given the state of this program.

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Why do you hope Cal's best player transfers to UCLA or U$C? Has our world gone mad?

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Because each player has their own path to walk, with reasons to stay or go, and I recognize that for Matt to take his shot to reach his highest potential he needs to go, but also that reaching that elusive goal is very uncertain and statistically improbable and I hate to see people walk away from a Cal degree.

Because I'm livid about the state of this program but none of that anger is directed at the players, and particularly not at Matt.

Because we have seen this program meticulously and systematically dismantled right before our eyes with stunning speed and precision by people other than him, and why should he (or any other player for that matter) personally suffer the consequences of those intentional actions?

Because I'm gutted by this news but it's completely understandable and warranted from his perspective and for me it's just another one in a long string of guttings I've received from the basketball administration over the past 5+ years.

Because the fact that they've designed a program that can't accommodate players like Matt ****ing Bradley is an absolute travesty and all the indictment anyone should need.

Because I wish him the absolute best in everything he does and it's the same advice I would give to my own brother or son.

Of course I'd rather he stay, but his decision is made.
In light of the foregoing, I acknowledge he's making the right decision.
This is what the future looks like for us, and it ain't pretty.
We are on the cusp of unfettered free agency, where players have to want to stay because there is no penalty for leaving.
Many of the under-recruited diamonds who prove themselves in lesser programs but still aren't quite draft-ready will be leaving for better ones.
In return, better programs will be dumping their players who were overrated or just don't pan out.
The geniuses who run our sports programs have chosen a path to financial ruin.
They don't seem to see that every revenue opportunity must be maximized to its full potential to compete and survive.

Right now I would rather root for Matt Bradley to have success elsewhere than watch him languish here.

So yeah, TLDR, our world has gone crazy. I wasn't born like this, they made me this way.

I will also say that there is nothing wrong with SDSU.
I know many people who went there and they are all successful in their careers around the country and globe.
The only reason for Matt not to go to SDSU is that he's already enrolled at Cal.

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Bobodeluxe said:

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Everyone's hero, Conzo "NBA defense" Martin built the foundation.

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calumnus said:

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Bobodeluxe said:

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Everyone's hero, Conzo "NBA defense" Martin built the foundation.

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Recruiting Bradley? Yes, I believe he did, but Bradley signed with Jones.

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Big C said:

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WalterSobchak said:

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Big C said:

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WalterSobchak said:

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I hope he will transfer to Ucla. I say that even though they are in my Holy Trinity of Hate.
Matt, if you're reading this, do what you need to do for you.
Don't go half way. Go where you can get to The Dance and, if possible, still get a top degree.
If USC is amenable but Ucla isn't, that's a decent backup.
Your loyalty is not in question given the state of this program.

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Why do you hope Cal's best player transfers to UCLA or U$C? Has our world gone mad?

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Because each player has their own path to walk, with reasons to stay or go, and I recognize that for Matt to take his shot to reach his highest potential he needs to go, but also that reaching that elusive goal is very uncertain and statistically improbable and I hate to see people walk away from a Cal degree.

Because I'm livid about the state of this program but none of that anger is directed at the players, and particularly not at Matt.

Because we have seen this program meticulously and systematically dismantled right before our eyes with stunning speed and precision by people other than him, and why should he (or any other player for that matter) personally suffer the consequences of those intentional actions?

Because I'm gutted by this news but it's completely understandable and warranted from his perspective and for me it's just another one in a long string of guttings I've received from the basketball administration over the past 5+ years.

Because the fact that they've designed a program that can't accommodate players like Matt ****ing Bradley is an absolute travesty and all the indictment anyone should need.

Because I wish him the absolute best in everything he does and it's the same advice I would give to my own brother or son.

Of course I'd rather he stay, but his decision is made.
In light of the foregoing, I acknowledge he's making the right decision.
This is what the future looks like for us, and it ain't pretty.
We are on the cusp of unfettered free agency, where players have to want to stay because there is no penalty for leaving.
Many of the under-recruited diamonds who prove themselves in lesser programs but still aren't quite draft-ready will be leaving for better ones.
In return, better programs will be dumping their players who were overrated or just don't pan out.
The geniuses who run our sports programs have chosen a path to financial ruin.
They don't seem to see that every revenue opportunity must be maximized to its full potential to compete and survive.

Right now I would rather root for Matt Bradley to have success elsewhere than watch him languish here.

So yeah, TLDR, our world has gone crazy. I wasn't born like this, they made me this way.

I will also say that there is nothing wrong with SDSU.
I know many people who went there and they are all successful in their careers around the country and globe.
The only reason for Matt not to go to SDSU is that he's already enrolled at Cal.

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All due respect to you as a Cal Basketball fan and for your graciousness towards the departing Matt Bradly.

Where I would disagree with your stance is that I would rather see him stay here for his senior season. We don't know what sort of success he is going to have elsewhere and what you you call "languishing here", I would call "starring for the California Golden Bears and earning a Cal degree".

I certainly can't disagree that Cal Basketball is at a low ebb right now, but I don't think it's quite the hellish experience that you make it out to be. Mark Fox is a decent coach and a decent guy who probably won't be able to win here (hope I'm wrong, but... ). He's not the Antichrist.

When my former significant other left me for George Clooney, I knew damn well that she was trading up, but I didn't exactly send her flowers or anything.

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Big C said:

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OaktownBear said:

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Big C said:

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WalterSobchak said:

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I hope he will transfer to Ucla. I say that even though they are in my Holy Trinity of Hate.
Matt, if you're reading this, do what you need to do for you.
Don't go half way. Go where you can get to The Dance and, if possible, still get a top degree.
If USC is amenable but Ucla isn't, that's a decent backup.
Your loyalty is not in question given the state of this program.

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Why do you hope Cal's best player transfers to UCLA or U$C? Has our world gone mad?

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I don't agree with it, but I think for some our program is so far out of the picture that it doesn't matter to us anymore and they want what is best academically for a guy who did serve us well.

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Wait, now a Cal-to-SDSU transfer is "best academically", too?!? Or did you mean to write "athletically" there?
[Edit: An Emily Litella "Never mind." on the above two sentences. The rest below still stands though.]

If Bradley were to transfer to UCLA or U$C, doesn't that then start to become BrennanScarlettesque? And I remember (and agree with) your position on that one.

Look, I LOVED Bradley as a player here... and just his whole persona and what it added to the team. I wish him well and will get through this with minimal bad feelings. He has my respect and admiration. However, I'm not going so far as to send him a dozen roses for this. He leaves Cal to transfer to another school prior to his senior year, he loses points on my scorecard. And being the competitor that he is, I'm sure he understands and appreciates my stance.

"Yay!" for just about everything about Matt Bradley. "Boo!" for him choosing to leave.

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oskidunker said:

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Big C said:

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OaktownBear said:

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Big C said:

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WalterSobchak said:

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I hope he will transfer to Ucla. I say that even though they are in my Holy Trinity of Hate.
Matt, if you're reading this, do what you need to do for you.
Don't go half way. Go where you can get to The Dance and, if possible, still get a top degree.
If USC is amenable but Ucla isn't, that's a decent backup.
Your loyalty is not in question given the state of this program.

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Why do you hope Cal's best player transfers to UCLA or U$C? Has our world gone mad?

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I don't agree with it, but I think for some our program is so far out of the picture that it doesn't matter to us anymore and they want what is best academically for a guy who did serve us well.

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Wait, now a Cal-to-SDSU transfer is "best academically", too?!? Or did you mean to write "athletically" there?
[Edit: An Emily Litella "Never mind." on the above two sentences. The rest below still stands though.]

If Bradley were to transfer to UCLA or U$C, doesn't that then start to become BrennanScarlettesque? And I remember (and agree with) your position on that one.

Look, I LOVED Bradley as a player here... and just his whole persona and what it added to the team. I wish him well and will get through this with minimal bad feelings. He has my respect and admiration. However, I'm not going so far as to send him a dozen roses for this. He leaves Cal to transfer to another school prior to his senior year, he loses points on my scorecard. And being the competitor that he is, I'm sure he understands and appreciates my stance.

"Yay!" for just about everything about Matt Bradley. "Boo!" for him choosing to leave.

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Once player leaves I have no interest in him anymore.

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Big C said:

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WalterSobchak said:

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Big C said:

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WalterSobchak said:

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I hope he will transfer to Ucla. I say that even though they are in my Holy Trinity of Hate.
Matt, if you're reading this, do what you need to do for you.
Don't go half way. Go where you can get to The Dance and, if possible, still get a top degree.
If USC is amenable but Ucla isn't, that's a decent backup.
Your loyalty is not in question given the state of this program.

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Why do you hope Cal's best player transfers to UCLA or U$C? Has our world gone mad?

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Because each player has their own path to walk, with reasons to stay or go, and I recognize that for Matt to take his shot to reach his highest potential he needs to go, but also that reaching that elusive goal is very uncertain and statistically improbable and I hate to see people walk away from a Cal degree.

Because I'm livid about the state of this program but none of that anger is directed at the players, and particularly not at Matt.

Because we have seen this program meticulously and systematically dismantled right before our eyes with stunning speed and precision by people other than him, and why should he (or any other player for that matter) personally suffer the consequences of those intentional actions?

Because I'm gutted by this news but it's completely understandable and warranted from his perspective and for me it's just another one in a long string of guttings I've received from the basketball administration over the past 5+ years.

Because the fact that they've designed a program that can't accommodate players like Matt ****ing Bradley is an absolute travesty and all the indictment anyone should need.

Because I wish him the absolute best in everything he does and it's the same advice I would give to my own brother or son.

Of course I'd rather he stay, but his decision is made.
In light of the foregoing, I acknowledge he's making the right decision.
This is what the future looks like for us, and it ain't pretty.
We are on the cusp of unfettered free agency, where players have to want to stay because there is no penalty for leaving.
Many of the under-recruited diamonds who prove themselves in lesser programs but still aren't quite draft-ready will be leaving for better ones.
In return, better programs will be dumping their players who were overrated or just don't pan out.
The geniuses who run our sports programs have chosen a path to financial ruin.
They don't seem to see that every revenue opportunity must be maximized to its full potential to compete and survive.

Right now I would rather root for Matt Bradley to have success elsewhere than watch him languish here.

So yeah, TLDR, our world has gone crazy. I wasn't born like this, they made me this way.

I will also say that there is nothing wrong with SDSU.
I know many people who went there and they are all successful in their careers around the country and globe.
The only reason for Matt not to go to SDSU is that he's already enrolled at Cal.

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All due respect to you as a Cal Basketball fan and for your graciousness towards the departing Matt Bradly.

Where I would disagree with your stance is that I would rather see him stay here for his senior season. We don't know what sort of success he is going to have elsewhere and what you you call "languishing here", I would call "starring for the California Golden Bears and earning a Cal degree".

I certainly can't disagree that Cal Basketball is at a low ebb right now, but I don't think it's quite the hellish experience that you make it out to be. Mark Fox is a decent coach and a decent guy who probably won't be able to win here (hope I'm wrong, but... ). He's not the Antichrist.

When my former significant other left me for George Clooney, I knew damn well that she was trading up, but I didn't exactly send her flowers or anything.

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