Big C said:

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Too bad. (WBB roster changes). I went to one game and watched a few others on TV: Daniels looked the least overrated of the Fab Three from two years ago. Does this "lesser" recruiting year (compared to the other two) signal that the current regime has maybe topped out?

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mbBear said:

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calumnus said:

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mbBear said:

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Golden One said:

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mbBear said:

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Golden One said:

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Big C said:

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fat_slice said:

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Dgoldnbaer said:

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That's why he was hired - to say what he does, behave as he does. Can't stand the idiot. Perhaps it's time we go after the person who hired him!!!

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Been saying that for a while. We need the anti-Christ. Our swimming program has always been great - he gets no credit for that. He's tanking our revenue programs so our swimming program will drown along with them in due time...Christ being supportive of football is the biggest scam in Cal athletics history ..bigger than Bozeman's bucks!

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If you compare Chancellor Christ with her predecessors going back 50 years or so, she is probably the most athletics-friendly, athletics-advocating Chancellor we have had... and I doubt it's close. Granted, she needs some help hiring ADs (forget if she hired the previous guy). Not to say she is great, but look at the other guys, who bordered on downright hostile to football and basketball (although Albert Bowker did attend most every home basketball game).

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That's damning Christ with very faint praise. She talks a good game, but she has done absolutely nothing during her tenure to get results. Words and smiles mean nothing. Cal has continued its slide into football and basketball oblivion under her watch.

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So the posts below are wrong? She didn't lead the debt re-working? Also, it's your belief that she had nothing to do in terms of supporting the grad programs to help hold on to athletes?
Okay, good to know...thanks.

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The debt re-working has done absolutely nothing, as best I can tell, to improve the results on the field or on the court. And the grad programs are surely a positive, but they have had minimal impact on wins for our football and basketball teams. So, at best she has given us some frosting for the cake, but she has done virtually nothing to improve the size or quality of the cake.

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They increased the assistants compensation pool...anything that possibly helped with that is a good thing.
IF you are saying you will only be happy with her if she pushes to fire Wilcox and Fox, then fine, that's at least honest, and is pre-emptive of any other discussion. But, and others can correct me if I am wrong, I don't see any one else in Cal history who has exceeded her support of the last few years. IF the results aren't quick enough for you, okay, then, hey, what else is there to discuss really....

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She hired Knowlton, a bad fit with little relevant experience, gave him a big raise and then, even after horrible results, a 7 year extension. The result of that will be her legacy with regards to athletics.

While some say she is "the best" chancellor ever for athletics (seems like that is often said of whomever is there at the time), right now she looks like the worst to me.

A poster said she walks around campus in a red overcoat?

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Having met her, there is no mistaking her correct color coordination and spirit about Cal. IF there was an early wardrobe discretion, then okay, serve that up as important to you.
I think the debt deal, the grad program, and her overall support in her position is significant...my opinion, and no one really cares. You hate Knowlton, and tie her to that....nothing that anyone is going to post is going to change your mind, nor is any opinion here going to matter in terms of how things shake out in the medium or long term.

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socaliganbear said:

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mbBear said:

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calumnus said:

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mbBear said:

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Golden One said:

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mbBear said:

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Golden One said:

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Big C said:

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fat_slice said:

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Dgoldnbaer said:

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That's why he was hired - to say what he does, behave as he does. Can't stand the idiot. Perhaps it's time we go after the person who hired him!!!

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Been saying that for a while. We need the anti-Christ. Our swimming program has always been great - he gets no credit for that. He's tanking our revenue programs so our swimming program will drown along with them in due time...Christ being supportive of football is the biggest scam in Cal athletics history ..bigger than Bozeman's bucks!

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If you compare Chancellor Christ with her predecessors going back 50 years or so, she is probably the most athletics-friendly, athletics-advocating Chancellor we have had... and I doubt it's close. Granted, she needs some help hiring ADs (forget if she hired the previous guy). Not to say she is great, but look at the other guys, who bordered on downright hostile to football and basketball (although Albert Bowker did attend most every home basketball game).

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That's damning Christ with very faint praise. She talks a good game, but she has done absolutely nothing during her tenure to get results. Words and smiles mean nothing. Cal has continued its slide into football and basketball oblivion under her watch.

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So the posts below are wrong? She didn't lead the debt re-working? Also, it's your belief that she had nothing to do in terms of supporting the grad programs to help hold on to athletes?
Okay, good to know...thanks.

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The debt re-working has done absolutely nothing, as best I can tell, to improve the results on the field or on the court. And the grad programs are surely a positive, but they have had minimal impact on wins for our football and basketball teams. So, at best she has given us some frosting for the cake, but she has done virtually nothing to improve the size or quality of the cake.

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They increased the assistants compensation pool...anything that possibly helped with that is a good thing.
IF you are saying you will only be happy with her if she pushes to fire Wilcox and Fox, then fine, that's at least honest, and is pre-emptive of any other discussion. But, and others can correct me if I am wrong, I don't see any one else in Cal history who has exceeded her support of the last few years. IF the results aren't quick enough for you, okay, then, hey, what else is there to discuss really....

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She hired Knowlton, a bad fit with little relevant experience, gave him a big raise and then, even after horrible results, a 7 year extension. The result of that will be her legacy with regards to athletics.

While some say she is "the best" chancellor ever for athletics (seems like that is often said of whomever is there at the time), right now she looks like the worst to me.

A poster said she walks around campus in a red overcoat?

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Having met her, there is no mistaking her correct color coordination and spirit about Cal. IF there was an early wardrobe discretion, then okay, serve that up as important to you.
I think the debt deal, the grad program, and her overall support in her position is significant...my opinion, and no one really cares. You hate Knowlton, and tie her to that....nothing that anyone is going to post is going to change your mind, nor is any opinion here going to matter in terms of how things shake out in the medium or long term.

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At some point, the big programs need to actually do well, or else it's been a failure. The end goal of investing hundreds of millions in athletics shouldn't be sound process. They don't give out NCAA championships for that, nor does that build fandom.

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calumnus said:

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mbBear said:

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calumnus said:

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mbBear said:

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Golden One said:

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mbBear said:

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Golden One said:

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Big C said:

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fat_slice said:

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Dgoldnbaer said:

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That's why he was hired - to say what he does, behave as he does. Can't stand the idiot. Perhaps it's time we go after the person who hired him!!!

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Been saying that for a while. We need the anti-Christ. Our swimming program has always been great - he gets no credit for that. He's tanking our revenue programs so our swimming program will drown along with them in due time...Christ being supportive of football is the biggest scam in Cal athletics history ..bigger than Bozeman's bucks!

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If you compare Chancellor Christ with her predecessors going back 50 years or so, she is probably the most athletics-friendly, athletics-advocating Chancellor we have had... and I doubt it's close. Granted, she needs some help hiring ADs (forget if she hired the previous guy). Not to say she is great, but look at the other guys, who bordered on downright hostile to football and basketball (although Albert Bowker did attend most every home basketball game).

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That's damning Christ with very faint praise. She talks a good game, but she has done absolutely nothing during her tenure to get results. Words and smiles mean nothing. Cal has continued its slide into football and basketball oblivion under her watch.

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So the posts below are wrong? She didn't lead the debt re-working? Also, it's your belief that she had nothing to do in terms of supporting the grad programs to help hold on to athletes?
Okay, good to know...thanks.

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The debt re-working has done absolutely nothing, as best I can tell, to improve the results on the field or on the court. And the grad programs are surely a positive, but they have had minimal impact on wins for our football and basketball teams. So, at best she has given us some frosting for the cake, but she has done virtually nothing to improve the size or quality of the cake.

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They increased the assistants compensation pool...anything that possibly helped with that is a good thing.
IF you are saying you will only be happy with her if she pushes to fire Wilcox and Fox, then fine, that's at least honest, and is pre-emptive of any other discussion. But, and others can correct me if I am wrong, I don't see any one else in Cal history who has exceeded her support of the last few years. IF the results aren't quick enough for you, okay, then, hey, what else is there to discuss really....

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She hired Knowlton, a bad fit with little relevant experience, gave him a big raise and then, even after horrible results, a 7 year extension. The result of that will be her legacy with regards to athletics.

While some say she is "the best" chancellor ever for athletics (seems like that is often said of whomever is there at the time), right now she looks like the worst to me.

A poster said she walks around campus in a red overcoat?

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Having met her, there is no mistaking her correct color coordination and spirit about Cal. IF there was an early wardrobe discretion, then okay, serve that up as important to you.
I think the debt deal, the grad program, and her overall support in her position is significant...my opinion, and no one really cares. You hate Knowlton, and tie her to that....nothing that anyone is going to post is going to change your mind, nor is any opinion here going to matter in terms of how things shake out in the medium or long term.

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I don't "hate" Knowlton. I didn't hate Gilby, Holmoe, Dykes, Wyking Jones or Mark Fox. I just think they were bad to horrible hires and bad fits who needed to go sooner rather than later. I do not blame any of them for accepting the $millions Cal gave them and doing their best. I blame the people who hired them and extended them.

Yes, I "tie her to that." Who else is responsible for hiring Knowlton above all the other possible candidates in this country and then, after historically bad results, giving him a raise and an unprecedented 7 year contract extension?

The one way I could see the next 7 years under Knowlton working out is if he takes his orders from an assertive and aggressive booster or booster group that also pushes NIL to the same legal limits as our competition will. That is where his obsequiousness and lack of ego would actually be a benefit. Unfortunately, I think, and we are hearing, that we will be one of the more conservative schools even in our own conference with regard to NIL and booster involvement. Donors will be sought for buildings, not influence. Our administration seeks to preserve the old order, with an antiquated view of amateurism with tge Ivy's as our ideal. Many would be fine with that if we just had football and basketball games with the Cal band, but unfortunately our game day traditions are being destroyed at the same time.

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calumnus said:

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mbBear said:

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calumnus said:

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mbBear said:

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Golden One said:

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mbBear said:

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Golden One said:

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Big C said:

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fat_slice said:

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Dgoldnbaer said:

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That's why he was hired - to say what he does, behave as he does. Can't stand the idiot. Perhaps it's time we go after the person who hired him!!!

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Been saying that for a while. We need the anti-Christ. Our swimming program has always been great - he gets no credit for that. He's tanking our revenue programs so our swimming program will drown along with them in due time...Christ being supportive of football is the biggest scam in Cal athletics history ..bigger than Bozeman's bucks!

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If you compare Chancellor Christ with her predecessors going back 50 years or so, she is probably the most athletics-friendly, athletics-advocating Chancellor we have had... and I doubt it's close. Granted, she needs some help hiring ADs (forget if she hired the previous guy). Not to say she is great, but look at the other guys, who bordered on downright hostile to football and basketball (although Albert Bowker did attend most every home basketball game).

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That's damning Christ with very faint praise. She talks a good game, but she has done absolutely nothing during her tenure to get results. Words and smiles mean nothing. Cal has continued its slide into football and basketball oblivion under her watch.

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So the posts below are wrong? She didn't lead the debt re-working? Also, it's your belief that she had nothing to do in terms of supporting the grad programs to help hold on to athletes?
Okay, good to know...thanks.

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The debt re-working has done absolutely nothing, as best I can tell, to improve the results on the field or on the court. And the grad programs are surely a positive, but they have had minimal impact on wins for our football and basketball teams. So, at best she has given us some frosting for the cake, but she has done virtually nothing to improve the size or quality of the cake.

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They increased the assistants compensation pool...anything that possibly helped with that is a good thing.
IF you are saying you will only be happy with her if she pushes to fire Wilcox and Fox, then fine, that's at least honest, and is pre-emptive of any other discussion. But, and others can correct me if I am wrong, I don't see any one else in Cal history who has exceeded her support of the last few years. IF the results aren't quick enough for you, okay, then, hey, what else is there to discuss really....

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She hired Knowlton, a bad fit with little relevant experience, gave him a big raise and then, even after horrible results, a 7 year extension. The result of that will be her legacy with regards to athletics.

While some say she is "the best" chancellor ever for athletics (seems like that is often said of whomever is there at the time), right now she looks like the worst to me.

A poster said she walks around campus in a red overcoat?

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Having met her, there is no mistaking her correct color coordination and spirit about Cal. IF there was an early wardrobe discretion, then okay, serve that up as important to you.
I think the debt deal, the grad program, and her overall support in her position is significant...my opinion, and no one really cares. You hate Knowlton, and tie her to that....nothing that anyone is going to post is going to change your mind, nor is any opinion here going to matter in terms of how things shake out in the medium or long term.

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I don't "hate" Knowlton. I didn't hate Gilby, Holmoe, Dykes, Wyking Jones or Mark Fox. I just think they were bad to horrible hires and bad fits who needed to go sooner rather than later. I do not blame any of them for accepting the $millions Cal gave them and doing their best. I blame the people who hired them and extended them.

Yes, I "tie her to that." Who else is responsible for hiring Knowlton above all the other possible candidates in this country and then, after historically bad results, giving him a raise and an unprecedented 7 year contract extension?

The one way I could see the next 7 years under Knowlton working out is if he takes his orders from an assertive and aggressive booster or booster group that also pushes NIL to the same legal limits as our competition will. That is where his obsequiousness and lack of ego would actually be a benefit. Unfortunately, I think, and we are hearing, that we will be one of the more conservative schools even in our own conference with regard to NIL and booster involvement. Donors will be sought for buildings, not influence. Our administration seeks to preserve the old order, with an antiquated view of amateurism with tge Ivy's as our ideal. Many would be fine with that if we just had football and basketball games with the Cal band, but unfortunately our game day traditions are being destroyed at the same time.

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BeachedBear said:

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calumnus said:

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mbBear said:

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calumnus said:

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mbBear said:

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Golden One said:

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mbBear said:

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Golden One said:

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Big C said:

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fat_slice said:

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Dgoldnbaer said:

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That's why he was hired - to say what he does, behave as he does. Can't stand the idiot. Perhaps it's time we go after the person who hired him!!!

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Been saying that for a while. We need the anti-Christ. Our swimming program has always been great - he gets no credit for that. He's tanking our revenue programs so our swimming program will drown along with them in due time...Christ being supportive of football is the biggest scam in Cal athletics history ..bigger than Bozeman's bucks!

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If you compare Chancellor Christ with her predecessors going back 50 years or so, she is probably the most athletics-friendly, athletics-advocating Chancellor we have had... and I doubt it's close. Granted, she needs some help hiring ADs (forget if she hired the previous guy). Not to say she is great, but look at the other guys, who bordered on downright hostile to football and basketball (although Albert Bowker did attend most every home basketball game).

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That's damning Christ with very faint praise. She talks a good game, but she has done absolutely nothing during her tenure to get results. Words and smiles mean nothing. Cal has continued its slide into football and basketball oblivion under her watch.

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So the posts below are wrong? She didn't lead the debt re-working? Also, it's your belief that she had nothing to do in terms of supporting the grad programs to help hold on to athletes?
Okay, good to know...thanks.

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The debt re-working has done absolutely nothing, as best I can tell, to improve the results on the field or on the court. And the grad programs are surely a positive, but they have had minimal impact on wins for our football and basketball teams. So, at best she has given us some frosting for the cake, but she has done virtually nothing to improve the size or quality of the cake.

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They increased the assistants compensation pool...anything that possibly helped with that is a good thing.
IF you are saying you will only be happy with her if she pushes to fire Wilcox and Fox, then fine, that's at least honest, and is pre-emptive of any other discussion. But, and others can correct me if I am wrong, I don't see any one else in Cal history who has exceeded her support of the last few years. IF the results aren't quick enough for you, okay, then, hey, what else is there to discuss really....

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She hired Knowlton, a bad fit with little relevant experience, gave him a big raise and then, even after horrible results, a 7 year extension. The result of that will be her legacy with regards to athletics.

While some say she is "the best" chancellor ever for athletics (seems like that is often said of whomever is there at the time), right now she looks like the worst to me.

A poster said she walks around campus in a red overcoat?

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Having met her, there is no mistaking her correct color coordination and spirit about Cal. IF there was an early wardrobe discretion, then okay, serve that up as important to you.
I think the debt deal, the grad program, and her overall support in her position is significant...my opinion, and no one really cares. You hate Knowlton, and tie her to that....nothing that anyone is going to post is going to change your mind, nor is any opinion here going to matter in terms of how things shake out in the medium or long term.

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I don't "hate" Knowlton. I didn't hate Gilby, Holmoe, Dykes, Wyking Jones or Mark Fox. I just think they were bad to horrible hires and bad fits who needed to go sooner rather than later. I do not blame any of them for accepting the $millions Cal gave them and doing their best. I blame the people who hired them and extended them.

Yes, I "tie her to that." Who else is responsible for hiring Knowlton above all the other possible candidates in this country and then, after historically bad results, giving him a raise and an unprecedented 7 year contract extension?

The one way I could see the next 7 years under Knowlton working out is if he takes his orders from an assertive and aggressive booster or booster group that also pushes NIL to the same legal limits as our competition will. That is where his obsequiousness and lack of ego would actually be a benefit. Unfortunately, I think, and we are hearing, that we will be one of the more conservative schools even in our own conference with regard to NIL and booster involvement. Donors will be sought for buildings, not influence. Our administration seeks to preserve the old order, with an antiquated view of amateurism with tge Ivy's as our ideal. Many would be fine with that if we just had football and basketball games with the Cal band, but unfortunately our game day traditions are being destroyed at the same time.

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I'm with you on most of this. Especially the hires and extensions. Even with Fox, I didn't love the hire, but accepted it as a response to Jones (i.e. better than keeping Jones). Despite the faults in the original hire - WHY NOT ACKNOWLEDGE THE MISTAKE AND FIX IT after year 3?!?!?. Similarly the unprecedented extension for Knowlton.

The one point I quibble with; is your last one about traditions. My experience is that most of the traditions I appreciate from Football and Basketball have already been destroyed over the last decades due to the influence of money (particularly TV), not one or two outmoded administrators. I don't expect any level of NIL involvement can make it worse - the damage has been done.

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BeachedBear said:

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calumnus said:

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mbBear said:

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calumnus said:

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mbBear said:

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Golden One said:

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mbBear said:

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Golden One said:

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Big C said:

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fat_slice said:

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Dgoldnbaer said:

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That's why he was hired - to say what he does, behave as he does. Can't stand the idiot. Perhaps it's time we go after the person who hired him!!!

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Been saying that for a while. We need the anti-Christ. Our swimming program has always been great - he gets no credit for that. He's tanking our revenue programs so our swimming program will drown along with them in due time...Christ being supportive of football is the biggest scam in Cal athletics history ..bigger than Bozeman's bucks!

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If you compare Chancellor Christ with her predecessors going back 50 years or so, she is probably the most athletics-friendly, athletics-advocating Chancellor we have had... and I doubt it's close. Granted, she needs some help hiring ADs (forget if she hired the previous guy). Not to say she is great, but look at the other guys, who bordered on downright hostile to football and basketball (although Albert Bowker did attend most every home basketball game).

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That's damning Christ with very faint praise. She talks a good game, but she has done absolutely nothing during her tenure to get results. Words and smiles mean nothing. Cal has continued its slide into football and basketball oblivion under her watch.

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So the posts below are wrong? She didn't lead the debt re-working? Also, it's your belief that she had nothing to do in terms of supporting the grad programs to help hold on to athletes?
Okay, good to know...thanks.

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The debt re-working has done absolutely nothing, as best I can tell, to improve the results on the field or on the court. And the grad programs are surely a positive, but they have had minimal impact on wins for our football and basketball teams. So, at best she has given us some frosting for the cake, but she has done virtually nothing to improve the size or quality of the cake.

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They increased the assistants compensation pool...anything that possibly helped with that is a good thing.
IF you are saying you will only be happy with her if she pushes to fire Wilcox and Fox, then fine, that's at least honest, and is pre-emptive of any other discussion. But, and others can correct me if I am wrong, I don't see any one else in Cal history who has exceeded her support of the last few years. IF the results aren't quick enough for you, okay, then, hey, what else is there to discuss really....

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She hired Knowlton, a bad fit with little relevant experience, gave him a big raise and then, even after horrible results, a 7 year extension. The result of that will be her legacy with regards to athletics.

While some say she is "the best" chancellor ever for athletics (seems like that is often said of whomever is there at the time), right now she looks like the worst to me.

A poster said she walks around campus in a red overcoat?

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Having met her, there is no mistaking her correct color coordination and spirit about Cal. IF there was an early wardrobe discretion, then okay, serve that up as important to you.
I think the debt deal, the grad program, and her overall support in her position is significant...my opinion, and no one really cares. You hate Knowlton, and tie her to that....nothing that anyone is going to post is going to change your mind, nor is any opinion here going to matter in terms of how things shake out in the medium or long term.

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I don't "hate" Knowlton. I didn't hate Gilby, Holmoe, Dykes, Wyking Jones or Mark Fox. I just think they were bad to horrible hires and bad fits who needed to go sooner rather than later. I do not blame any of them for accepting the $millions Cal gave them and doing their best. I blame the people who hired them and extended them.

Yes, I "tie her to that." Who else is responsible for hiring Knowlton above all the other possible candidates in this country and then, after historically bad results, giving him a raise and an unprecedented 7 year contract extension?

The one way I could see the next 7 years under Knowlton working out is if he takes his orders from an assertive and aggressive booster or booster group that also pushes NIL to the same legal limits as our competition will. That is where his obsequiousness and lack of ego would actually be a benefit. Unfortunately, I think, and we are hearing, that we will be one of the more conservative schools even in our own conference with regard to NIL and booster involvement. Donors will be sought for buildings, not influence. Our administration seeks to preserve the old order, with an antiquated view of amateurism with tge Ivy's as our ideal. Many would be fine with that if we just had football and basketball games with the Cal band, but unfortunately our game day traditions are being destroyed at the same time.

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I'm with you on most of this. Especially the hires and extensions. Even with Fox, I didn't love the hire, but accepted it as a response to Jones (i.e. better than keeping Jones). Despite the faults in the original hire - WHY NOT ACKNOWLEDGE THE MISTAKE AND FIX IT after year 3?!?!?. Similarly the unprecedented extension for Knowlton.

The one point I quibble with; is your last one about traditions. My experience is that most of the traditions I appreciate from Football and Basketball have already been destroyed over the last decades due to the influence of money (particularly TV), not one or two outmoded administrators. I don't expect any level of NIL involvement can make it worse - the damage has been done.

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Civil Bear said:

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stu said:

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oskidunker said:

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The band plays a lot at basketball games.

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In the games I saw this season the band played more and the recordings played less than in the recent past. To me that's good.

Tell me when the team plays better.

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The silver lining in the program no longer able to drum up enough interest to sell advertising that used to take up the band's time.

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oskidunker said:

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There never has been much adverising

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stu said:

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From the East Bay Times:
https://www.eastbaytimes.com/2022/05/24/cal-swimmers-allege-coach-teri-mckeever-bullied-and-verbally-abused-them-for-years/

I wonder how this will play out. Probably won't be mentioned in the next issue of Knowlton's notes.

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fat_slice said:

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stu said:

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From the East Bay Times:
https://www.eastbaytimes.com/2022/05/24/cal-swimmers-allege-coach-teri-mckeever-bullied-and-verbally-abused-them-for-years/

I wonder how this will play out. Probably won't be mentioned in the next issue of Knowlton's notes.

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She will get an extra year because of a new COVID variant.

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calumnus said:

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KoreAmBear said:

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fat_slice said:

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stu said:

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From the East Bay Times:
https://www.eastbaytimes.com/2022/05/24/cal-swimmers-allege-coach-teri-mckeever-bullied-and-verbally-abused-them-for-years/

I wonder how this will play out. Probably won't be mentioned in the next issue of Knowlton's notes.

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She will get an extra year because of a new COVID variant.

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Funny but the situation is really sad. And if the allegations are true both McKeever and Knowlton gotta go.

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Knowlton needs to go. His belief about "tough coaches" reflects his background at West Point, VMI and Air Force and what made him think Mark Fox was a good hire for Cal in this time in history. His refusal to meet with parents, if true, is damning.

Hopefully this incident is what leads to his replacement. The fact Christ gave him an 8 year extension is just another screw up for Cal, but at least no one needs to feel sorry for him when he walks with an $8 million payday and can move back to someplace he is more comfortable.

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sluggo said:

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calumnus said:

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KoreAmBear said:

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fat_slice said:

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stu said:

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From the East Bay Times:
https://www.eastbaytimes.com/2022/05/24/cal-swimmers-allege-coach-teri-mckeever-bullied-and-verbally-abused-them-for-years/

I wonder how this will play out. Probably won't be mentioned in the next issue of Knowlton's notes.

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She will get an extra year because of a new COVID variant.

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Funny but the situation is really sad. And if the allegations are true both McKeever and Knowlton gotta go.

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Knowlton needs to go. His belief about "tough coaches" reflects his background at West Point, VMI and Air Force and what made him think Mark Fox was a good hire for Cal in this time in history. His refusal to meet with parents, if true, is damning.

Hopefully this incident is what leads to his replacement. The fact Christ gave him an 8 year extension is just another screw up for Cal, but at least no one needs to feel sorry for him when he walks with an $8 million payday and can move back to someplace he is more comfortable.

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You have been so right about Knowlton. He is almost a caricature, not the modern leader that a place like Cal needs.

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PtownBear1 said:

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sluggo said:

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calumnus said:

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KoreAmBear said:

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fat_slice said:

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stu said:

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From the East Bay Times:
https://www.eastbaytimes.com/2022/05/24/cal-swimmers-allege-coach-teri-mckeever-bullied-and-verbally-abused-them-for-years/

I wonder how this will play out. Probably won't be mentioned in the next issue of Knowlton's notes.

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She will get an extra year because of a new COVID variant.

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Funny but the situation is really sad. And if the allegations are true both McKeever and Knowlton gotta go.

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Knowlton needs to go. His belief about "tough coaches" reflects his background at West Point, VMI and Air Force and what made him think Mark Fox was a good hire for Cal in this time in history. His refusal to meet with parents, if true, is damning.

Hopefully this incident is what leads to his replacement. The fact Christ gave him an 8 year extension is just another screw up for Cal, but at least no one needs to feel sorry for him when he walks with an $8 million payday and can move back to someplace he is more comfortable.

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You have been so right about Knowlton. He is almost a caricature, not the modern leader that a place like Cal needs.

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I wouldn't hire that guy to run an Arby's, let alone a multi-million dollar university athletic department. And I arrived at that conclusion on the day he was hired, long before he destroyed the basketball program, gave arbitrary extensions to every coach, bungled the Covid issues, and apparently failed to supervise this swim coach or investigate the complaints against them.

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SFCityBear said:

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stu said:

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From the East Bay Times:
https://www.eastbaytimes.com/2022/05/24/cal-swimmers-allege-coach-teri-mckeever-bullied-and-verbally-abused-them-for-years/

I wonder how this will play out. Probably won't be mentioned in the next issue of Knowlton's notes.

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Knowlton or someone in the administration with the authority to do so, needs to fire this coach, immediately, even if only 10% of the article is true. This is not "tough, hard coaching", this is truly sadistic. Knowlton had nothing to do with McKeever's hiring, but what I don't get is how would anyone at Cal hire the daughter of Mike McKeever, the USC player who broke most of the bones in Cal halfback Steve Bates' face, out of bounds, after the play was over, in one of the dirtiest plays I ever saw. Like father like daughter, it seems.

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stu said:

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IMHO if these allegations are true they're far worse than Hufnagel's transgressions and worse than Bozeman's. At least in those two cases nobody got hurt. But one of those swimmers might have gone through with a suicide.

Regarding Knowlton: It's one thing to be incompetent, another to have blood on your hands. He needs to go before this gets worse.

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Big C said:

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stu said:

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IMHO if these allegations are true they're far worse than Hufnagel's transgressions and worse than Bozeman's. At least in those two cases nobody got hurt. But one of those swimmers might have gone through with a suicide.

Regarding Knowlton: It's one thing to be incompetent, another to have blood on your hands. He needs to go before this gets worse.

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I'm not disagreeing with you, but I will throw this out there: If I go over to the BI Off-Topic Forum and call "Poster X" a piece of s*** a bunch of times and then Poster X takes their own life, do I have blood on my hands? (I don't do that, btw, but some posters almost do.)

I know, I know, totally different dynamic. Not the same at all. Still, it sounds like what McKeever is "guilty" of is being a total azz hole in her position of authority. We're almost treating the situation like she was that doctor at Michigan State who molested dozens of athletes.

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