HoopDreams said:
different teams' offseasons impact their teams differently!
https://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/story/_/id/34052635/washington-state-mouhamed-gueye-withdraws-name-basketball-transfer-portal
joe amos yaks said:
Pullman is somewhat remote, but the Palouse is beautiful and a great place for a serious student . . . and they serve excellent ice cream.
calbear80 said:joe amos yaks said:
Pullman is somewhat remote, but the Palouse is beautiful and a great place for a serious student . . . and they serve excellent ice cream.
I have been to Pullman, WA and Moscow, ID (about 10 miles away) half a dozen times. I would not use the word beautiful in the same paragraph as Pullman or Moscow, even in the "good weather" part of the year. Any coach who can make things happen in Pullman, must have something going for him/her.
Go Bears!
calbear80 said:
Isn't WSU coach the guy Knowlton passed over?
Chancellor Christ needs to fix the real problem.
Go Bears!
Big C said:calbear80 said:
Isn't WSU coach the guy Knowlton passed over?
Chancellor Christ needs to fix the real problem.
Go Bears!
No, it was reported here that Smith has family connections in the greater, greater Pullman area and actually wanted to be there, WSU hired him even before Cal had an opening. Knowlton passed over Travis Decuire to hire Fox.
calumnus said:Big C said:calbear80 said:
Isn't WSU coach the guy Knowlton passed over?
Chancellor Christ needs to fix the real problem.
Go Bears!
No, it was reported here that Smith has family connections in the greater, greater Pullman area and actually wanted to be there, WSU hired him even before Cal had an opening. Knowlton passed over Travis Decuire to hire Fox.
My brother knows him through Randy Bennett and a bunch of other UCSD basketball alums. Smith had been interested in the Cal job since he lived in the East Bay as an assistant at St. Mary's and then had success in turning around an academic school like Columbia making him think he could do so at Cal too.
WSU's and Cal's seasons ended at the same time. Initially Knowlton indicated Wyking would be back and WSU came after Smith hard and had him signed before Knowlton changed gears, fired Jones, hired a search firm and hired Fox all in 5 days.
It is true that Kyle Smith's wife is from the area making it more attractive to him than it would otherwise be, but anyone who thinks he would not have entertained the additional salary Cal pays in a better recruiting location and more storied history with no need to move his family is just making excuses for Knowlton.
Yes, winter is winter, it ain't no San Diego, but that's the northwest. The Palouse is grand and beautiful country.stu said:
During the winter isn't everything there some form of ice?
joe amos yaks said:Yes, winter is winter, it ain't no San Diego, but that's the northwest. The Palouse is grand and beautiful country.stu said:
During the winter isn't everything there some form of ice?
Rignt now, I would take their roster over ours so obviously SOME 18 year old basketball players ARE looking to spend A FEW years in "grand and beautiful country"......I totally understand where your coming from though....calumnus said:joe amos yaks said:Yes, winter is winter, it ain't no San Diego, but that's the northwest. The Palouse is grand and beautiful country.stu said:
During the winter isn't everything there some form of ice?
But there is a reason why many more people live in the Bay Area (or even Seattle) and home prices are higher. Most 18 year old basketball players are not looking to spend 4 years in "grand and beautiful country" when, if they go to Cal they can just visit once a year.
bearmanpg said:Rignt now, I would take their roster over ours so obviously SOME 18 year old basketball players ARE looking to spend A FEW years in "grand and beautiful country"......I totally understand where your coming from though....calumnus said:joe amos yaks said:Yes, winter is winter, it ain't no San Diego, but that's the northwest. The Palouse is grand and beautiful country.stu said:
During the winter isn't everything there some form of ice?
But there is a reason why many more people live in the Bay Area (or even Seattle) and home prices are higher. Most 18 year old basketball players are not looking to spend 4 years in "grand and beautiful country" when, if they go to Cal they can just visit once a year.
bearmanpg said:Rignt now, I would take their roster over ours so obviously SOME 18 year old basketball players ARE looking to spend A FEW years in "grand and beautiful country"......I totally understand where your coming from though....calumnus said:joe amos yaks said:Yes, winter is winter, it ain't no San Diego, but that's the northwest. The Palouse is grand and beautiful country.stu said:
During the winter isn't everything there some form of ice?
But there is a reason why many more people live in the Bay Area (or even Seattle) and home prices are higher. Most 18 year old basketball players are not looking to spend 4 years in "grand and beautiful country" when, if they go to Cal they can just visit once a year.
Assuming they qualify.PtownBear1 said:bearmanpg said:Rignt now, I would take their roster over ours so obviously SOME 18 year old basketball players ARE looking to spend A FEW years in "grand and beautiful country"......I totally understand where your coming from though....calumnus said:joe amos yaks said:Yes, winter is winter, it ain't no San Diego, but that's the northwest. The Palouse is grand and beautiful country.stu said:
During the winter isn't everything there some form of ice?
But there is a reason why many more people live in the Bay Area (or even Seattle) and home prices are higher. Most 18 year old basketball players are not looking to spend 4 years in "grand and beautiful country" when, if they go to Cal they can just visit once a year.
If we had a remotely desirable coach, I have no doubt we could easily get any of their players.
89Bear said:
Serious question:
If a poll were taken with a group of recruits and they were to rank the factors in their school decision-making, where would location in the country rank?
I see:
-Playing time
-Connection to coaches
-Playing style
-NBA path
-NIL(for a select few)
-Teammates
-Facilities
-Hype factor of school(Crowds, media coverage...)
(Not saying I agree with these priorities.)
Location, for many of these recruits, is low down the list in my opinion.
Agreed. Location is in "All other things being equal category". More importantly, there is little the coaching staff or AD can do (other than take advantage) to change it. Most things on your list CAN be affected or at least influenced. I would add Academic reputation to your list, near the bottom, just above location and below culinary environment and far below coed friendliness.89Bear said:
Serious question:
If a poll were taken with a group of recruits and they were to rank the factors in their school decision-making, where would location in the country rank?
I see:
-Playing time
-Connection to coaches
-Playing style
-NBA path
-NIL(for a select few)
-Teammates
-Facilities
-Hype factor of school(Crowds, media coverage...)
(Not saying I agree with these priorities.)
Location, for many of these recruits, is low down the list in my opinion.
BeachedBear said:Agreed. Location is in "All other things being equal category". More importantly, there is little the coaching staff or AD can do (other than take advantage) to change it. Most things on your list CAN be affected or at least influenced. I would add Academic reputation to your list, near the bottom, just above location and below culinary environment and far below coed friendliness.89Bear said:
Serious question:
If a poll were taken with a group of recruits and they were to rank the factors in their school decision-making, where would location in the country rank?
I see:
-Playing time
-Connection to coaches
-Playing style
-NBA path
-NIL(for a select few)
-Teammates
-Facilities
-Hype factor of school(Crowds, media coverage...)
(Not saying I agree with these priorities.)
Location, for many of these recruits, is low down the list in my opinion.
The other part of the poll probably needs to include parents rankings as well.
Agree - Tradition, chances of making NCAA Tournament, connection to staff,Facilities,Location, playing style,NIL opportunities, housing (parents weigh in often on this) - at the top and then - yes " coed quality" ( its a common complaint amongst the bball and football guys - not sure where that factor ranks though). Academics a lower factor - I usually get the response that it weighed in less than the above criteria. .calumnus said:BeachedBear said:Agreed. Location is in "All other things being equal category". More importantly, there is little the coaching staff or AD can do (other than take advantage) to change it. Most things on your list CAN be affected or at least influenced. I would add Academic reputation to your list, near the bottom, just above location and below culinary environment and far below coed friendliness.89Bear said:
Serious question:
If a poll were taken with a group of recruits and they were to rank the factors in their school decision-making, where would location in the country rank?
I see:
-Playing time
-Connection to coaches
-Playing style
-NBA path
-NIL(for a select few)
-Teammates
-Facilities
-Hype factor of school(Crowds, media coverage...)
(Not saying I agree with these priorities.)
Location, for many of these recruits, is low down the list in my opinion.
The other part of the poll probably needs to include parents rankings as well.
I think you have to add tradition/name and chances of making the NCAA Tournament.
Location and campus matter. Think about when you applied for school, it was probably: 1. Academics 2. Location and campus 3. Cost. For top athletes it is just that their sport is #1 replacing academics and cost is not an issue.
Cal has a much better basketball history, name and location than WSU. We have had far more top recruits in our history than they have, for a reason.
4thGenCal said:Agree - Tradition, chances of making NCAA Tournament, connection to staff,Facilities,Location, playing style,NIL opportunities, housing (parents weigh in often on this) - at the top and then - yes " coed quality" ( its a common complaint amongst the bball and football guys - not sure where that factor ranks though). Academics a lower factor - I usually get the response that it weighed in less than the above criteria. .calumnus said:BeachedBear said:Agreed. Location is in "All other things being equal category". More importantly, there is little the coaching staff or AD can do (other than take advantage) to change it. Most things on your list CAN be affected or at least influenced. I would add Academic reputation to your list, near the bottom, just above location and below culinary environment and far below coed friendliness.89Bear said:
Serious question:
If a poll were taken with a group of recruits and they were to rank the factors in their school decision-making, where would location in the country rank?
I see:
-Playing time
-Connection to coaches
-Playing style
-NBA path
-NIL(for a select few)
-Teammates
-Facilities
-Hype factor of school(Crowds, media coverage...)
(Not saying I agree with these priorities.)
Location, for many of these recruits, is low down the list in my opinion.
The other part of the poll probably needs to include parents rankings as well.
I think you have to add tradition/name and chances of making the NCAA Tournament.
Location and campus matter. Think about when you applied for school, it was probably: 1. Academics 2. Location and campus 3. Cost. For top athletes it is just that their sport is #1 replacing academics and cost is not an issue.
Cal has a much better basketball history, name and location than WSU. We have had far more top recruits in our history than they have, for a reason.
Jalen still on crutches and had a pretty heavy setback with the ACL and meniscus tear and a stretch to the MCL - likely not able to be back to normal until Feb/March. Marsalis Roberson recently had some minor scar tissue removal and thus knee surgery and will be fine in a month. Hyder feeling really good and hopefully now that he is healthy, will be much improved. Joel Brown - healthy/recovered from past month minor knee surgery and will be improved. All on campus except the 6' 9" incoming freshman, due to visa issues that should be resolved over the next couple of weeks. Team will be quicker and more athletic - not sure if they can protect the rim, shoot from outside consistently and limit offensive rebounding of the opposing team. Losing Kelly is a big loss - others that graduated/out of eligibility, not so much. At some point would be interesting to have our annual W/L prediction /conf finish forecasting. For me too early to peg a finish, but gut says double digit finish in conf.
Reasonable: 6theastcoastcal said:
What do y'all think is the reasonable floor for grounds to fire Fox? What is the worst place Fox can finish and be retained?
eastcoastcal said:
What do y'all think is the reasonable floor for grounds to fire Fox? What is the worst place Fox can finish and be retained?
eastcoastcal said:
What do y'all think is the reasonable floor for grounds to fire Fox? What is the worst place Fox can finish and be retained?
