https://www.si.com/college/cal/basketball/cal-all-foreign-starting-five

Great list. Thanks for posting. ND Okafor of Ireland will soon be added to make the list current.

So who among these players do you think would have the greatest impact, if they were on our roster today?

jorge or Tamir

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Great list. Thanks for posting. ND Okafor of Ireland will soon be added to make the list current.

So who among these players do you think would have the greatest impact, if they were on our roster today?

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Not to split hairs, but how is it that Mexico is considered "overseas"? International, yes. Overseas, no.

GoCal80 said:

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Not to split hairs, but how is it that Mexico is considered "overseas"? International, yes. Overseas, no.

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it was the easiest word to type on a phone

GoCal80 said:

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Not to split hairs, but how is it that Mexico is considered "overseas"? International, yes. Overseas, no.

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Canada too.

Are the Rio Grande to the south and the Great Lakes to the north sufficiently wet to qualify as "overseas"?

We definitely need a new term to describe people from Mexico and Canada. "Over-walls-that-never-got-built"? Nah, too long...

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Are the Rio Grande to the south and the Great Lakes to the north sufficiently wet to qualify as "overseas"?

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Even though people die seemingly almost every day now trying to cross it, the Rio Grande ain't no ocean.

Some would argue that traveling over the Sea of Cortez makes a trip to Mexico a trip "overseas".

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We definitely need a new term to describe people from Mexico and Canada. "Over-walls-that-never-got-built"? Nah, too long...

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Another case where generalizing, painting with a broad brush, leads to problems. They can be naturalized American citizens, or tourists, or folks with visas, or people from other countries seeking asylum in the US, having first passed through Mexico or Canada to get here. They can also be trespassers, aliens here illegally, and more recently they can be people allowed in by an overwhelmed border patrol, as the present executive branch of the federal government has deliberately chosen not to enforce US border laws and regulations.

Big C said:

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We definitely need a new term to describe people from Mexico and Canada. "Over-walls-that-never-got-built"? Nah, too long...

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North Americans.

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Big C said:

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We definitely need a new term to describe people from Mexico and Canada. "Over-walls-that-never-got-built"? Nah, too long...

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North Americans.

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is Mexico in North America or Central America?

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Big C said:

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We definitely need a new term to describe people from Mexico and Canada. "Over-walls-that-never-got-built"? Nah, too long...

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Another case where generalizing, painting with a broad brush, leads to problems. They can be naturalized American citizens, or tourists, or folks with visas, or people from other countries seeking asylum in the US, having first passed through Mexico or Canada to get here. They can also be trespassers, aliens here illegally, and more recently they can be people allowed in by an overwhelmed border patrol, as the present executive branch of the federal government has deliberately chosen not to enforce US border laws and regulations.

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Jorge Gutierrez
https://www.sfgate.com/sports/kroichick/article/Cal-s-Jorge-Gutierrez-left-Mexico-at-16-for-hoops-2433415.php

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stu said:

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Big C said:

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We definitely need a new term to describe people from Mexico and Canada. "Over-walls-that-never-got-built"? Nah, too long...

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North Americans.

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is Mexico in North America or Central America?

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the former... when you're talkin' continents, i believe even Central America is part of North America

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HoopDreams said:

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stu said:

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Big C said:

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We definitely need a new term to describe people from Mexico and Canada. "Over-walls-that-never-got-built"? Nah, too long...

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North Americans.

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is Mexico in North America or Central America?

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the former... when you're talkin' continents, i believe even Central America is part of North America

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Canada, the US, Mexico, Guatemala, Belize, Honduras, El Salvador, Costa Rica, and Panama are all In North America.

Often the islands of the Caribbean are included too, though they are not strictly on the continent. (Similar issue with islands off Europe, Asia, Africa, Australia and South America.

Are the Philippines in the continent of Asia?

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Big C said:

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HoopDreams said:

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stu said:

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Big C said:

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We definitely need a new term to describe people from Mexico and Canada. "Over-walls-that-never-got-built"? Nah, too long...

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North Americans.

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is Mexico in North America or Central America?

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the former... when you're talkin' continents, i believe even Central America is part of North America

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Canada, the US, Mexico, Guatemala, Belize, Honduras, El Salvador, Costa Rica, and Panama are all In North America.

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HoopDreams said:

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Are the Philippines in the continent of Asia?

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It are.

HoopDreams said:

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Are the Philippines in the continent of Asia?

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Big C said:

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HoopDreams said:

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stu said:

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Big C said:

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We definitely need a new term to describe people from Mexico and Canada. "Over-walls-that-never-got-built"? Nah, too long...

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North Americans.

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is Mexico in North America or Central America?

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the former... when you're talkin' continents, i believe even Central America is part of North America

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Canada, the US, Mexico, Guatemala, Belize, Honduras, El Salvador, Costa Rica, and Panama are all In North America.

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According to FIFA, the Philippines are part of ASIA - as is Australia So is Jordan, Lebanon and Palestine. However, Israel is part of Europe - go figure.

Is Russia part of Europe, or Asia? What about Ukraine?

Is Berkeley part of the United States of America?

Is it true that some states are in two different time zones? Isn't that scientifically impossible?

Big C said:

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..Is it true that some states are in two different time zones? Isn't that scientifically impossible?

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according to the internet more than 10 states' timezones are complicated..
https://www.worldtimeserver.com/learn/which-us-states-have-more-than-one-time-zone/

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Big C said:

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..Is it true that some states are in two different time zones? Isn't that scientifically impossible?

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according to the internet more than 10 states' timezones are complicated..
https://www.worldtimeserver.com/learn/which-us-states-have-more-than-one-time-zone/

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Back to basketball, sort of. In his book "The Breaks of the Game", the late, great author David Halberstam recounts a few stories of Marvin "Bad News" Barnes. In the one most relevant to the tangent I've taken this thread on, his team is about to get on a short flight from City Y to City X, traveling west and crossing into an earlier time zone....

At the gate, they have the departure and arrival times posted. Something like Departure 9:30 -- Arrival: 9:25.

Time to board! "News" sees the sign and stops dead in his tracks. Refuses to budge: "I ain't gettin' in no damn time machine!"

> ..time machine.

your story reminds we're all stuck riding a mostly boring time machine, one way only, until we're not.

Big C said:

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Back to basketball, sort of. In his book "The Breaks of the Game", the late, great author David Halberstam recounts a few stories of Marvin "Bad News" Barnes. In the one most relevant to the tangent I've taken this thread on, his team is about to get on a short flight from City Y to City X, traveling west and crossing into an earlier time zone....

At the gate, they have the departure and arrival times posted. Something like Departure 9:30 -- Arrival: 9:25.

Time to board! "News" sees the sign and stops dead in his tracks. Refuses to budge: "I ain't gettin' in no damn time machine!"

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A friend of mine was perplexed at taking off from Auckland one day and landing in Papeete the day before but she survived. Maybe the Earth isn't flat.

Editorial opinion: Why don't we all just use GMT and do away with this time zone foolishness?