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Bears Add Second Commit of '23 Class in 6'11 Center Devin Curtis

November 9, 2022
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Just days after receiving a recommitment and a signing today from 4 star Temecula combo guard Rodney Brown‍, the Bears added another ‘23 SoCal oommit in 3 star center Devin Curtis‍.

The 6-11 SoCal Academy (Los Angeles, CA) center announced his commitment to Cal today and with the early signing window open for the next week, will presumably sign with the Bears, joining Brown in the 2023 class.

“What made me choose Cal was I felt like it was the best fit for me of being a high-academic school and a program looking to win,” told Zagsblog’s Adam Zagoria. “And I felt like they needed and wanted me being one of the guys to really help them change the program around.“I would love to just dog it out for a season and prove to the basketball community.“I will bring my versatility as a big that can stretch the floor, play inside and out, run the floor hard, grab rebounds and have the IQ to run plays and pick apart the defense. I would love to get in the film session with coach [Mark] Fox to help improve my skillset as well.”

The 3 star center took his official visit to Berkeley on September 30 this fall. He’s ranked as the 33rd best center overall and the 34th best recruit in the state of California. 

The prep school saw an impressive 8 recruits sign National Letters of Intent this morning including Braelon Green (Arizona St), Donovan Santoro (Providence), Robert Davis (UMass), Jordan Burks (Ole Miss), Will Heimbrodt (Seattle U), Makaih Williams (Wyoming) & Drew Fielder (Providence) and Curtis with Cal.

Stay tuned for more details.

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Bears Add Second Commit of '23 Class in 6'11 Center Devin Curtis

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CalLifer said:

KoreAmBear said:

calumnus said:

concernedparent said:

calumnus said:

concernedparent said:

calumnus said:

MoragaBear said:

calumnus said:

Definitely a position of need with Lars moving on. Plus, Fox's first player in his career from LA?

Welcome to Cal!

Both commits are from LA



I see now that Curtis is from Northridge, San Fernando Valley and played at tiny Heritage Christian. Technically that is Los Angeles, so It counts, but it is not really what I am talking about.
What are you talking about then? It's like saying someone from Queens isn't from NYC because they're not from one of the denser boroughs.


Calling Temecula, in San Diego county "LA" is not like calling Queens, NYC. It is more like calling the Hamptons, NYC. Or a small upscale town in rural New Jersey. "NYC."

Anyway, I won't belabor the point.


I'm talking about Northridge.


Which is why I said he counts. My good friend KAB is from the Valley. The Valley is part of the City of LA.

In looking at the top players in California, there just are not that many coming from the big LA city schools, and of course UCLA, USC and Arizona are the preferred destination for those few.

It is not a big deal. It is like SF City liking recruits from San Francisco. It is more about hometown pride than a Cal recruiting issue.
#RootedInGranadaHills
#NorthridgeRepresent


Valley go home! Jk

#West Side!
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calumnus said:

concernedparent said:

calumnus said:

concernedparent said:

calumnus said:

MoragaBear said:

calumnus said:

Definitely a position of need with Lars moving on. Plus, Fox's first player in his career from LA?

Welcome to Cal!

Both commits are from LA



I see now that Curtis is from Northridge, San Fernando Valley and played at tiny Heritage Christian. Technically that is Los Angeles, so It counts, but it is not really what I am talking about.
What are you talking about then? It's like saying someone from Queens isn't from NYC because they're not from one of the denser boroughs.


Calling Temecula, in San Diego county "LA" is not like calling Queens, NYC. It is more like calling the Hamptons, NYC. Or a small upscale town in rural New Jersey. "NYC."

Anyway, I won't belabor the point.


I'm talking about Northridge.


Which is why I said he counts. My good friend KAB is from the Valley. The Valley is part of the City of LA.

In looking at the top players in California, there just are not that many coming from the big LA city schools, and of course UCLA, USC and Arizona are the preferred destination for those few.

It is not a big deal. It is like SF City liking recruits from San Francisco. It is more about hometown pride than a Cal recruiting issue.
That's a lie. I never said I liked recruits from San Francisco. How could I? There aren't any. I would like to see my city produce some, but there haven't been many since the glory days of Cal and USF in the 1950s-1960s. The most recent one I remember was Stephen Domingo, and he wasn't near as good as his projected ranking as a junior in HS. Brendan Glapion was AAA player of the year in San Francisco, and was a walk-on at Cal.

San Francisco's problems as far as producing basketball players is that the city has become very expensive to live in, so many whites and most blacks have moved out. We have had a huge influx of Asians and Hispanics. These groups, especially the Asians, produce some exceptional basketball players, but unfortunately, being smaller in stature, most colleges are not interested in them. Black players dominate the recruiting ranks, along with a substantial group of white players, and we just don't have very many of them anymore.

I suspect that the same is true of the City of Los Angeles. Most of our Northern California cities, San Jose, Oakland, Hayward, Fremont, Berkeley, have also seen a similar shift in demographics. I have written a few posts on the Bear Insider where I decried the lack of basketball talent at the high school level in Northern California. Back when the first Mr Basketball award for the best player in California was given to Don Bragg of Galileo and San Francisco, back in the early 1950s. For many years, the award was given half of the years to a NorCal kid, and half to a Socal kid. We had Rabb and Gordon winning the award in the same period, but from there, I think we have to go all the way back to Jason Kidd to find a NorCal player winning it. And through all these years back to Don Bragg, SoCal's population has been larger than that of NorCal. Newell's great Cal teams had rosters made up of mostly NorCal players, but a large number of SoCal players. He had several players from the Central Valley, and a few from other states.

There are other factors. I think computers and especially cell phones have attracted kids to a sedentary lifestyle, not wanting to participate in sports. There is a big addiction problem among kids, not just phones, but dangerous drugs, and the crime that goes with them. The cost of going to watch college and especially pro sports is a reach for the poor kids. Finally, I don't think coaching is very good at the high school level and earlier. I had teammates who became teachers, and some picked up extra money by coaching. Many school districts could not afford sports, so salaries were cut. In coaching the hours are long, the schools are often poorly financed. It becomes a labor of love, and as my teammates got married and began to have families, they quit coaching, because it took too much time away from their families. As parents, many of my relatives have raised young athletes, but this is expensive. Skills academies, uniforms, coaches' salaries, travel to games, often in other states is expensive, and can run into many thousands of dollars, which limits the number of promising players who can participate. Most of these issues must be common to both SoCal and NorCal, I do know that all of Newell's success happened in NorCal, with a lot of NorCal players. One difference between NorCal and SoCal players in my day, was that fast break basketball ruled in SoCal, and defense ruled in NorCal, in high school and in college. Nationally, the east coast, in the cities, defense was also good, but out in Indiana, Ohio, Kansas, Kentucky, fast break was king. Now all areas play the same style, pretty much, a motion offense and a help defense. Still even with all these changes over time, there should be no reason why NorCal can not produce many good recruits, and SoCal can. SoCal has always had more population, and NorCal did produce many good recruits through most of the 20th century. But not lately.
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OdontoBear66 said:

MoragaBear said:

calumnus said:

MoragaBear said:

calumnus said:

Definitely a position of need with Lars moving on. Plus, Fox's first player in his career from LA?

Welcome to Cal!

Both commits are from LA


Rodney Brown is from Rancho Christian in Temecula, a very suburban community in Northern San Diego County. It is about two hours from LA, twice as far as Irvine in Orange Cointy.
Rancho Christian is in Temecula but his AAU team is in LA

All my NorCal family calls everything LA & South just LA
Gotta be careful there MB. The OC & I think SD prefer distinction from LA to be sure. I think your family was from north SD county.

Maybe we SoCal guys should call everything north of Fresno Sacramento. I mean, what's the difference, right?
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Big C said:

calumnus said:

MoragaBear said:

calumnus said:

MoragaBear said:

calumnus said:

Definitely a position of need with Lars moving on. Plus, Fox's first player in his career from LA?

Welcome to Cal!

Both commits are from LA


Rodney Brown is from Rancho Christian in Temecula, a very suburban community in Northern San Diego County. It is about two hours from LA, twice as far as Irvine in Orange Cointy.
Rancho Christian is in Temecula but his AAU team is in LA


That is like saying LeBron James is from Oakland and not Ohio because he played on the Soldiers.

His parents driving him from Temecula to AAU games in LA does not make him from LA.

I'm happy with his recommitment. We need shooters.

Interesting that they are both from small "Bible based" schools.





Calumnus, forgive us NorCal guys, but it's pretty much all "LA" down there. We know that, sometimes, it needs to be more precise, but this isn't one of those times. Brown and Curtis are from LA... and good for them! We need to get more LA guys.


(south of, like Ventura... west of San Bernardino... north of Irvine. that's "LA"... okay, technically, some of that is Orange County or whatever, but LA is LA)

Initial unintentional ignorance is one thing, but repeated refusals to correct an error based on said ignorance after the error was pointed out is another. NorCal posters' refusal to learn the distinction after it's been pointed out to you is either a sign of laziness or willful ignorance. Either way, it's not really worthy of a Cal education, let alone forgiveness.

Remember, Cal is THE public university for the entire State of California, not just the Bay Area or NorCal. To disrespect the southern half of the state by pretending it's all the same is insulting. It's as if Southern California is just one giant homogenous area. Anyone with even a passing knowledge of the state knows nothing could be further from the truth. Yet, our Bay Area Bears, for some inexplicable reason, seem insistent on perpetuating that fallacy.
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SFCityBear said:

... But Cal has had plenty of players from religious schools. Brandon Smith and I think, Jeff Powers from De la Salle. Bishop O'Dowd is not large, with a studentbody of 1200 or so, and is a modern pipeline to Cal, with Ivan Rabb, Paris Austin, and now Bowser and Roberson. Wasn't D. J. Thorpe from a religious school? Cal has had players from St Ignatius and Sacred Heart, I believe.
BOD is a Catholic school but at least in the past students didn't have to be Catholic. Or Christian. Or even religious. A friend's daughter, who described herself as the biggest atheist on the planet, went to BOD in the late 1990s and fit in fine.
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01Bear said:

Big C said:

calumnus said:

MoragaBear said:

calumnus said:

MoragaBear said:

calumnus said:

Definitely a position of need with Lars moving on. Plus, Fox's first player in his career from LA?

Welcome to Cal!

Both commits are from LA


Rodney Brown is from Rancho Christian in Temecula, a very suburban community in Northern San Diego County. It is about two hours from LA, twice as far as Irvine in Orange Cointy.
Rancho Christian is in Temecula but his AAU team is in LA


That is like saying LeBron James is from Oakland and not Ohio because he played on the Soldiers.

His parents driving him from Temecula to AAU games in LA does not make him from LA.

I'm happy with his recommitment. We need shooters.

Interesting that they are both from small "Bible based" schools.





Calumnus, forgive us NorCal guys, but it's pretty much all "LA" down there. We know that, sometimes, it needs to be more precise, but this isn't one of those times. Brown and Curtis are from LA... and good for them! We need to get more LA guys.


(south of, like Ventura... west of San Bernardino... north of Irvine. that's "LA"... okay, technically, some of that is Orange County or whatever, but LA is LA)

Initial unintentional ignorance is one thing, but repeated refusals to correct an error based on said ignorance after the error was pointed out is another. NorCal posters' refusal to learn the distinction after it's been pointed out to you is either a sign of laziness or willful ignorance. Either way, it's not really worthy of a Cal education, let alone forgiveness.

Remember, Cal is THE public university for the entire State of California, not just the Bay Area or NorCal. To disrespect the southern half of the state by pretending it's all the same is insulting. It's as if Southern California is just one giant homogenous area. Anyone with even a passing knowledge of the state knows nothing could be further from the truth. Yet, our Bay Area Bears, for some inexplicable reason, seem insistent on perpetuating that fallacy.

Okay, I sorta started this "how we define LA" digression and, for the record...

I WAS JUST MESSING AROUND! People from the LA/SoCal area can define it any way they want.

It's like talkin' trash on the Giants-Dodgers thread: Just havin' some fun. If anybody wants to continue it, just do it in a lighthearted spirit of fun. We're all Golden Bears here.
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01Bear said:

Maybe we SoCal guys should call everything north of Fresno Sacramento. I mean, what's the difference, right?
If you say that to someone from Sacramento they'll take offense. If you say that to someone from Fresno they'll ask: what's a Sacramento?
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The City of Los Angeles is the most populous city in California, the second most populous city in the United States, second only to New York City. It has the third largest GDP of any city in the world behind only NYC and Tokyo.

The City of Los Angels is the largest city of many cities in Los Angeles County. Los Angeles County is the most populous county in the United States.

Bordering LA County are Ventura County to the west, Kern County far to the north of LA City, San Bernardino County to the east and Orange County to the south.

Riverside County does not border Los Angeles County. It is east of Orange County and south of San Bernardino County.

San Diego Cointy is south of Orange County, but mostly south of Riverside County. Temecula is in the north east of San Diego County, south of Riverside County, on 15. It is a wine growing region. I compared it to Granite Bay, a relatively affluent inland place with lots of large new suburban tract homes, but is a suburb of Sacramento. Temecula considers itself to be a suburb of San Diego, 1 hr to the South. Or Riverside, 1 hr to the north.

It is about 90 miles and a two hour drive from Temecula to downtown Los Anefeles, going the fastest route driving through Riverside County, San Bernadine County and Orange County and cities like Corona, Cerritos, Downey or City of industry.

If you wanted to take the coast route it is about 45 minutes to Oceanside or an 1 hr and 15 minutes to San Juan Capistrano in south Orange County on the 5. From there it is 1 hour and 45 minutes to downtown LA, 3 hrs in total.

I did not consider Bradley to be from LA, so I certainly would not consider someone who lives twice as far and far closer to San Diego to be from LA.
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stu said:

SFCityBear said:

... But Cal has had plenty of players from religious schools. Brandon Smith and I think, Jeff Powers from De la Salle. Bishop O'Dowd is not large, with a studentbody of 1200 or so, and is a modern pipeline to Cal, with Ivan Rabb, Paris Austin, and now Bowser and Roberson. Wasn't D. J. Thorpe from a religious school? Cal has had players from St Ignatius and Sacred Heart, I believe.
BOD is a Catholic school but at least in the past students didn't have to be Catholic. Or Christian. Or even religious. A friend's daughter, who described herself as the biggest atheist on the planet, went to BOD in the late 1990s and fit in fine.
What is the world coming to? I have a close friend who is an architect for the Archdiocese in Contra Costa, and he tells me the Catholic churches in the city of Oakland are near empty, while the Catholic churches on the other side of the hill like in Concord, etc. are flourishing, both in attendance and financially.
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La Crescenta WHAT. "Balcony of the Foothills." Used to just tell people Glendale.
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Big C said:

01Bear said:

Big C said:

calumnus said:

MoragaBear said:

calumnus said:

MoragaBear said:

calumnus said:

Definitely a position of need with Lars moving on. Plus, Fox's first player in his career from LA?

Welcome to Cal!

Both commits are from LA


Rodney Brown is from Rancho Christian in Temecula, a very suburban community in Northern San Diego County. It is about two hours from LA, twice as far as Irvine in Orange Cointy.
Rancho Christian is in Temecula but his AAU team is in LA


That is like saying LeBron James is from Oakland and not Ohio because he played on the Soldiers.

His parents driving him from Temecula to AAU games in LA does not make him from LA.

I'm happy with his recommitment. We need shooters.

Interesting that they are both from small "Bible based" schools.





Calumnus, forgive us NorCal guys, but it's pretty much all "LA" down there. We know that, sometimes, it needs to be more precise, but this isn't one of those times. Brown and Curtis are from LA... and good for them! We need to get more LA guys.


(south of, like Ventura... west of San Bernardino... north of Irvine. that's "LA"... okay, technically, some of that is Orange County or whatever, but LA is LA)

Initial unintentional ignorance is one thing, but repeated refusals to correct an error based on said ignorance after the error was pointed out is another. NorCal posters' refusal to learn the distinction after it's been pointed out to you is either a sign of laziness or willful ignorance. Either way, it's not really worthy of a Cal education, let alone forgiveness.

Remember, Cal is THE public university for the entire State of California, not just the Bay Area or NorCal. To disrespect the southern half of the state by pretending it's all the same is insulting. It's as if Southern California is just one giant homogenous area. Anyone with even a passing knowledge of the state knows nothing could be further from the truth. Yet, our Bay Area Bears, for some inexplicable reason, seem insistent on perpetuating that fallacy.

Okay, I sorta started this "how we define LA" digression and, for the record...

I WAS JUST MESSING AROUND! People from the LA/SoCal area can define it any way they want.

It's like talkin' trash on the Giants-Dodgers thread: Just havin' some fun. If anybody wants to continue it, just do it in a lighthearted spirit of fun. We're all Golden Bears here.

It might be light-hearted fun, if this board wasn't so heavily made up of provincial Bay Area folks. Waaaay too many threads on this board are about non-Cal-related Bay Area specific topics. While I get that a lot of Cal alumni are from the Bay Area or are still there, Cal is not a regional school. It's time the alumni on this board stopped treating it as such.
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stu said:

SFCityBear said:

... But Cal has had plenty of players from religious schools. Brandon Smith and I think, Jeff Powers from De la Salle. Bishop O'Dowd is not large, with a studentbody of 1200 or so, and is a modern pipeline to Cal, with Ivan Rabb, Paris Austin, and now Bowser and Roberson. Wasn't D. J. Thorpe from a religious school? Cal has had players from St Ignatius and Sacred Heart, I believe.
BOD is a Catholic school but at least in the past students didn't have to be Catholic. Or Christian. Or even religious. A friend's daughter, who described herself as the biggest atheist on the planet, went to BOD in the late 1990s and fit in fine.

That's not as unusual as you may think. One of my college girlfriends (and her sisters) went to Moreau Catholic High School in Hayward, but she and her family were buddhist.
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SFCityBear said:

stu said:

SFCityBear said:

... But Cal has had plenty of players from religious schools. Brandon Smith and I think, Jeff Powers from De la Salle. Bishop O'Dowd is not large, with a studentbody of 1200 or so, and is a modern pipeline to Cal, with Ivan Rabb, Paris Austin, and now Bowser and Roberson. Wasn't D. J. Thorpe from a religious school? Cal has had players from St Ignatius and Sacred Heart, I believe.
BOD is a Catholic school but at least in the past students didn't have to be Catholic. Or Christian. Or even religious. A friend's daughter, who described herself as the biggest atheist on the planet, went to BOD in the late 1990s and fit in fine.
What is the world coming to? I have a close friend who is an architect for the Archdiocese in Contra Costa, and he tells me the Catholic churches in the city of Oakland are near empty, while the Catholic churches on the other side of the hill like in Concord, etc. are flourishing, both in attendance and financially.
That's been going on for a while in many parts of the world. Its where the families are growing vs declining. It has much more to do with demographics than any cultural or social phenomenon. Give it another generation or so and there will be a reflux into cities and those churches will flourish. Lately its been gentrification and migration to suburbs.

I was in New York last month and Manhattan is actually starting to see upticks in families, school populations and increased popularity in at least one catholic church my family has been connected with for generations. The mystery to me is how a young family can afford it - but maybe they are all young investment banker families
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