If he's fired now, do we have anyone on staff that can be a decent interim?

Any chance Ben Braun wants to come back and be interim for a season? Monty? Even Cuonzo is available

Wow e tu Brute? But yes you are so right.

Email sent

What's a fair over/under on combined basketball and football wins. I'm putting the number at 10. I still might take the under.

calfanz said:

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The worst part? Horrible body language.

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Yeah, that was bad. Especially when contrasted with the energy of the UCSD players.

KoreAmBear said:

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Wow e tu Brute? But yes you are so right.

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my wild azz guess is that alky don't got a good financial adviser

BearGreg said:

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This is beyond embarrassing. No one is being helped by Mark Fox continuing to be the leader of our basketball program. Beyond the indifference to fan and donor support, beyond the poor scouting and lazy recruiting, he has proven he cannot develop talent. And most importantly, the team is barely competitive at the very lowest levels of D1 Basketball.

Cal Men's Basketball hit an all-time low tonight and it's past time for a change.

Share your thoughts with Jim Knowlton - jim.knowlton@berkeley.edu

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I agree with all of that except lazy recruiting. Fox may be putting energy into that but due to his other deficiencies he doesn't have much to sell.

Cal Basketball: The Decision to Hire Mark Fox | Bear Insider


https://bearinsider.com/s/1283/the-decision-to-hire-mark-fox

I want him to stay. He built this team, he sold his vision, now he should have to live with it. If he is fired then his name won't be in the history books for worst season ever of Cal basketball.

Also, his long term replacement probably already has a job and can't be brought in until after the season, so there is no advantage to firing him.

sluggo said:

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I want him to stay. He built this team, he sold his vision, now he should have to live with it. If he is fired then his name won't be in the history books for worst season ever of Cal basketball.

Also, his long term replacement probably already has a job and can't be brought in until after the season, so there is no advantage to firing him.

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Firing incompetent people early begins to set a tone around expectations. It starts to change the culture. We desperately need that. (I acknowledge that "early" is in the eye of the beholder. I would have preferred it happen earlier. But doing it early in the middle of the season is a start).

tequila4kapp said:

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sluggo said:

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I want him to stay. He built this team, he sold his vision, now he should have to live with it. If he is fired then his name won't be in the history books for worst season ever of Cal basketball.

Also, his long term replacement probably already has a job and can't be brought in until after the season, so there is no advantage to firing him.

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Firing incompetent people early begins to set a tone around expectations. It starts to change the culture. We desperately need that. (I acknowledge that "early" is in the eye of the beholder. I would have preferred it happen earlier. But doing it early in the middle of the season is a start).

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Expectations? Cal athletics under Jim Knowlton? What? I have no idea what you are talking about.

I want 30 Fox postgame press conferences where he explains each loss.

Shocky1 said:

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stu, the current men's basketball staff is the least visible p5 team in the united states on the aau circuit according to aau, jc & high school coaches that attend these summertime tournaments

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Thanks, I didn't know that.

Shocky1 said:

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not sure what your metric is stating he's not a lazy recruiter but that's not even remotely close to being an accurate statement

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No metric because I don't know what anyone is doing. That's why I said "may be".

sluggo said:

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tequila4kapp said:

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sluggo said:

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I want him to stay. He built this team, he sold his vision, now he should have to live with it. If he is fired then his name won't be in the history books for worst season ever of Cal basketball.

Also, his long term replacement probably already has a job and can't be brought in until after the season, so there is no advantage to firing him.

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Firing incompetent people early begins to set a tone around expectations. It starts to change the culture. We desperately need that. (I acknowledge that "early" is in the eye of the beholder. I would have preferred it happen earlier. But doing it early in the middle of the season is a start).

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Expectations? Cal athletics under Jim Knowlton? What? I have no idea what you are talking about.

I want 30 Fox postgame press conferences where he explains each loss.

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No video unfortunately, but love this postgame interview where he throws his players under the bus. He is a tremendous leader of men, someone I want my son to be like. He is not winning yet, but when he does, he will win The RIGHT WAY.

https://calbears.com/documents/2022/11/15/2022_11_15_Cal-UCSD_Mark_Fox_Postgame_Radio_Interview_Transcript.pdf

Seems reasonable but I've learned to never question Mark Fox.

Since I didn't watch the game, I have to ask, did Cal play faster like Fox claimed they would?

bearister said:

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Cal Basketball: The Decision to Hire Mark Fox | Bear Insider


https://bearinsider.com/s/1283/the-decision-to-hire-mark-fox

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This is the part I find fascinating:

"His X's and O's and teaching pedigree are endorsed in fulsome fashion with his recent tenure with Team USA and the praise he received from coaching luminaries in today's press release. Bear Insider has had a chance to source further references from a half dozen industry experts and the praise has been universal and unstinting. Folks who know Pac-12 basketball exceptionally well and have no affiliation with Cal or with Coach Fox have been effusive in their praise of Fox and the fit at Cal."

Fox's offensive Xs a Os are at maybe the 10th percentile among college coaches. Better than Wyking Jones, comparable to the Kstate coach, but worse than almost every team that passes through. Running so much through the 5 in the high post when Cal has never had a player who can play that role, and setting no screens away from the ball, is just so bad. So was BI talking to equally incompetent "experts"? Or was this coaches who speak no ill of others in the fraternity? If a genie granted me three wishes one would be to talk to these experts about Mark Fox.