Official Bears vs Bobcats Game Thread

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bearister
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Since it isn't an away game and he can't be "Kiffined," out of respect for and in honor of KAB, he should be fired over a bock at Top Dog.


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sluggo said:

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HoopDreams said:

how about ben braun?!!!?!
Because they need a terrible game coach to replace a terrible game coach? Like for like.


Right? Braun's strength was recruiting: players and big donors.
Good recruiter and good eye for talent. Terrible at everything else I understand, since I don't know about donor stuff.


Good network too. Almost landed LeBron as LeBron's hs cosch was Braun's assistant at Eastern Michigan.
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BearSD said:

Who the hell drew up that play? What a terrible idea.
Who else could it be but our esteemed head coach. Presser should be fun.
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Lol Fox
Oakbear
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We remain perfect
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KoreAmBear
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Oakbear said:

We remain perfect
I am sure the young men will enjoy seeing other legit teams at the Florida tournament hotel at 0-5. Fox has made them a laughingstock.
sluggo
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calumnus said:

sluggo said:

calumnus said:

sluggo said:

HoopDreams said:

how about ben braun?!!!?!
Because they need a terrible game coach to replace a terrible game coach? Like for like.


Right? Braun's strength was recruiting: players and big donors.
Good recruiter and good eye for talent. Terrible at everything else I understand, since I don't know about donor stuff.


Good network too. Almost landed LeBron as LeBron's hs cosch was Braun's assistant at Eastern Michigan.
Who knows about "almost" as there was no way LeBron was going to college. LeBron was also friends with Leon Powe and played for a time with the Soldiers, also in Cal's favor. I saw him play at RSF, one of my top 5 sports memories.
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That long pass, if nothing else, should get the coach canned.

Maybe all of our short passers were injured?
DavisBear
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This is just ridiculous. Knowlton created this mess, he needs to Fire Fox tonight! If he's not willing to do it, he should quit. Just embarrassing how far Cal basketball has fallen
calumnus
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We scored over 50 thanks to great 3 point shooting.
KoreAmBear
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stu said:

That long pass, if nothing else, should get the coach canned.
7.8 seconds and you need to throw a baseball pass. OK.
BearSD
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KoreAmBear said:

BearSD said:

Who the hell drew up that play? What a terrible idea.
Who else could it be but our esteemed head coach. Presser should be fun.
Maybe Fox did that because he wants to be canned? Like when Lane Kiffin had the Raiders attempt a 76-yard field goal and then got fired two days later?
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KoreAmBear said:

stu said:

That long pass, if nothing else, should get the coach canned.
7.8 seconds and you need to throw a baseball pass. OK.
It sort of made sense. Throw long to LT at top and he quickly kicks to a shooter. Maybe better than dribbling up and being fouled on the dribble. The execution was a little off.

I actually would prefer being fouled, hitting the first and hoping to rebound the second.
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If they had been pressing, which fox assumed they would, then ok. But they took off the press and Askew threw in to a crowd even if fox called that play he should not have done it. Except we had everyone in the front court sigh.
Go Bears!
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Brown had an uncharacteristic 5 turnovers, maybe the basketball gods did that to make up for Bowser's uncharacteristic 3 threes?
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It's only 50-50 a Cal player will even catch that pass, let alone do anything with it. OTOH it runs less clock so we'd have time to commit another foul and enjoy the loss for a few more seconds.
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oskidunker said:

If they had been pressing, which fox assumed they would, then ok. But they took off the press and Askew threw in to a crowd even if fox called that play he should not have done it. Except we had everyone in the front court sigh.
Of course they didn't have the press on! No one in their right mind would think Texas State would have a backcourt press on when every Cal player except the inbounder started the play in the front court!
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BC Calfan said:

oskidunker said:

I like Ben Braun but tonight he is full of ***** Lars is still learning? Best players are injured? Really


Seriously. Celestine averaged 7.5 pts per game last year, not like he's Jordan. He comes off the bench for most PAC-12 teams and Clayton was an ok player for Coppin St. Looking forward to Fox singing this tune in postgame.
Celestine would be the best player on the team. But he is a low usage player. As he shot more and more last season he got worse and worse.

Fox said that Cal would make up for lack of scoring with balance. How is that working out?
stu
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The team which just beat us shot 34% from the field and 26% on threes. Maybe it was our balanced turnovers?
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This is the school that Scott Bakula, Sinbad, and Kathy Ireland played football for lol
tequila4kapp
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Honest question - has Knowlton ever fired a coach at Cal? He didn't fire the swim coach who allegedly abused people to the point of considering suicide. He's got incompetent Fox. What am I missing here?
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sluggo said:

BC Calfan said:

oskidunker said:

I like Ben Braun but tonight he is full of ***** Lars is still learning? Best players are injured? Really


Seriously. Celestine averaged 7.5 pts per game last year, not like he's Jordan. He comes off the bench for most PAC-12 teams and Clayton was an ok player for Coppin St. Looking forward to Fox singing this tune in postgame.
Celestine would be the best player on the team. But he is a low usage player. As he shot more and more last season he got worse and worse.

Fox said that Cal would make up for lack of scoring with balance. How is that working out?


Balance = bad offense and equally bad defense.

I cringe on the days I realize it is a basketball GameDay. Sheesh.
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tequila4kapp said:

Honest question - has Knowlton ever fired a coach at Cal? He didn't fire the swim coach who allegedly abused people to the point of considering suicide. He's got incompetent Fox. What am I missing here?


He fired Wyking Jones, but only after initially indicating he would retain him and getting massive pushback.
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tequila4kapp said:

Honest question - has Knowlton ever fired a coach at Cal? He didn't fire the swim coach who allegedly abused people to the point of considering suicide. He's got incompetent Fox. What am I missing here?
He didn't fire her, but perhaps he can be fired if found to have been derelict in his duty to the student-athletes.
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oskidunker said:

If they had been pressing, which fox assumed they would, then ok. But they took off the press and Askew threw in to a crowd even if fox called that play he should not have done it. Except we had everyone in the front court sigh.
Newell threw the pass. Great have a freshman take the most important play of the game.
stu
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It's a great excuse!
KoreAmBear
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I see a Lars and Sam video. No Fox yet. I thought he wasn't gonna allow the players to take the heat for this?
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KoreAmBear said:

tequila4kapp said:

Honest question - has Knowlton ever fired a coach at Cal? He didn't fire the swim coach who allegedly abused people to the point of considering suicide. He's got incompetent Fox. What am I missing here?
He didn't fire her, but perhaps he can be fired if found to have been derelict in his duty to the student-athletes.


If you tell someone who brings you charges of abuse that one day they will appreciate their abuser and then give the abuser a huge raise and extended contract, isn't that more than derelict? Doesn't that make you culpable?

And if "the University" hires a law firm for $millions to "investigate" and instead absolves the university (chancellor and AD) of wrongdoing, isn't that malfeasance of some kind?
stu
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The box score shows attendance 1211, just over 10% of capacity.
sluggo
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KoreAmBear said:

I see a Lars and Sam video. No Fox yet. I thought he wasn't gonna allow the players to take the heat for this?
Here you go. Even more excusey than usual. I would ask him last possession of the first half, how do you end up with LT taking a three? Do you have anyone competent on staff to draw up a play?

sluggo
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Complains about there only being one guard. Last I checked Askew and Brown are both guards and if you are walking it up they should be able to play all or nearly all of the game. Plus there are many wings who can't handle the ball. I have been complaining that they recruit too few ball handlers as much as too few shooters.
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i give props to the players for actually getting a shot at a tie at the buzzer

a lot of things had to go right to put us in position to do so

also kudos to bowser for hitting three 3s in a row

coach was asking a lot to a player who just hit his first college 3 to take that crunch time shot though

on the other hand they were swarming askew and bowser has length over their defenders so probably an ok play in that situation

i don't have a problem with last desperation play. pass to Lars who is taller then any defender. a different play and the defense just intentionally foul

poor execution but was a hail mary play no matter what we did

THE problem was not those play calls. the problem were the defense, rebounds and turnovers

brown and 2k need to take some responsibility for that as seniors

askew and lars weren't perfect but did their job. for all the criticism of lars (much deserved) he is our second best player (unfortunately). he is getting double and triple teamed because of it.

Sam started to assert himself and get more aggressive in second half but he doesn't have the skills yet to take over as only a soph

unless clayton is a game changer it will be very difficult for things to get substantially better
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Every cloud has a silver lining: I spent the evening with my kids, at home, with the TV off! It was pleasant!
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stu said:

The box score shows attendance 1211, just over 10% of capacity.


That is double the attendance of Cuonzo's NIT loss vs Cal State Bakersfield.
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