Of course, Lamond Murray is right. I like this comment a lot too.Quote:
[url=https://substack.com/profile/7367353-pawloski][/url]PawlOski
It's like we gave ourselves the death penalty. What a disgrace and embarrassment. So callous and unnecessary. When oh when will the adults show up?
I am not sure about this. There WAS a pro day early in the Fall and I saw a decent number of Cal guys there. Lamond was not one and he is right - as the all time leading scorer and given his body of work his jersey should be retired - especially if Al G.'s is hanging there.CAL4LIFE said:Of course, Lamond Murray is right. I like this comment a lot too.Quote:
[url=https://substack.com/profile/7367353-pawloski][/url]PawlOski
It's like we gave ourselves the death penalty. What a disgrace and embarrassment. So callous and unnecessary. When oh when will the adults show up?
Either Cal is intentionally killing off the athletic department or they are completely bankrupt of common sense.
KAB, the memories. We all know how this era ended but damn was it fun at times. I was at Pauley right behind press row for this epic performance.KoreAmBear said:
Btw, I was a senior during Lamond's freshman year. He had a nice battle with his cousin Tracy Murray of UCLA but we always lost. I saw him on campus one day and told him all these losses are going to turn into wins one day. Sure enough, a year after I left, Jason Kidd rolls onto campus and he is the main beneficiary of his passes. And the rest is history.
We had a black AD before Knowlton, and he wasn't worth a damn either. He hired Wilcox. It's not the color that matters, it's the skill, knowledge, and management ability.annarborbear said:
Our white middle-aged AD can only relate to other white middle-aged guys like Fox. Our AD's personal comfort level is what's important here. Everything else is secondary.
Golden One said:We had a black AD before Knowlton, and he wasn't worth a damn either. He hired Wilcox. It's not the color that matters, it's the skill, knowledge, and management ability.annarborbear said:
Our white middle-aged AD can only relate to other white middle-aged guys like Fox. Our AD's personal comfort level is what's important here. Everything else is secondary.
Bobodeluxe said:
Maybe his jersey has been retired, but no one knows because no one was at the game to see it happen?
It all comes with institutional memory, or lack thereof. The people running the Athletic Department don't know who or how to reach out to because they do not know them. If they aren't in the press regularly like Marks, Kidd, Rodgers, or Lynch, they don't know them.CAL4LIFE said:Of course, Lamond Murray is right. I like this comment a lot too.Quote:
[url=https://substack.com/profile/7367353-pawloski][/url]PawlOski
It's like we gave ourselves the death penalty. What a disgrace and embarrassment. So callous and unnecessary. When oh when will the adults show up?
Either Cal is intentionally killing off the athletic department or they are completely bankrupt of common sense.
RayofLight said:It all comes with institutional memory, or lack thereof. The people running the Athletic Department don't know who or how to reach out to because they do not know them. If they aren't in the press regularly like Marks, Kidd, Rodgers, or Lynch, they don't know them.CAL4LIFE said:Of course, Lamond Murray is right. I like this comment a lot too.Quote:
[url=https://substack.com/profile/7367353-pawloski][/url]PawlOski
It's like we gave ourselves the death penalty. What a disgrace and embarrassment. So callous and unnecessary. When oh when will the adults show up?
Either Cal is intentionally killing off the athletic department or they are completely bankrupt of common sense.
joe amos yaks said:
No HoF?
No involvement?
Why has this not happened?
A failure to communicate?
An information gap?
A great player for Cal.
CAL4LIFE said:KAB, the memories. We all know how this era ended but damn was it fun at times. I was at Pauley right behind press row for this epic performance.KoreAmBear said:
Btw, I was a senior during Lamond's freshman year. He had a nice battle with his cousin Tracy Murray of UCLA but we always lost. I saw him on campus one day and told him all these losses are going to turn into wins one day. Sure enough, a year after I left, Jason Kidd rolls onto campus and he is the main beneficiary of his passes. And the rest is history.
The talent on the floor in this game was special.
Big C said:Bobodeluxe said:
Maybe his jersey has been retired, but no one knows because no one was at the game to see it happen?
Maybe his jersey has been retired, but no one knows because they don't have the retired jerseys up?
CAL4LIFE said:KAB, the memories. We all know how this era ended but damn was it fun at times. I was at Pauley right behind press row for this epic performance.KoreAmBear said:
Btw, I was a senior during Lamond's freshman year. He had a nice battle with his cousin Tracy Murray of UCLA but we always lost. I saw him on campus one day and told him all these losses are going to turn into wins one day. Sure enough, a year after I left, Jason Kidd rolls onto campus and he is the main beneficiary of his passes. And the rest is history.
The talent on the floor in this game was special.
hoop97 said:CAL4LIFE said:KAB, the memories. We all know how this era ended but damn was it fun at times. I was at Pauley right behind press row for this epic performance.KoreAmBear said:
Btw, I was a senior during Lamond's freshman year. He had a nice battle with his cousin Tracy Murray of UCLA but we always lost. I saw him on campus one day and told him all these losses are going to turn into wins one day. Sure enough, a year after I left, Jason Kidd rolls onto campus and he is the main beneficiary of his passes. And the rest is history.
The talent on the floor in this game was special.
7 NBA players on the floor to start the game!
calumnus said:hoop97 said:CAL4LIFE said:KAB, the memories. We all know how this era ended but damn was it fun at times. I was at Pauley right behind press row for this epic performance.KoreAmBear said:
Btw, I was a senior during Lamond's freshman year. He had a nice battle with his cousin Tracy Murray of UCLA but we always lost. I saw him on campus one day and told him all these losses are going to turn into wins one day. Sure enough, a year after I left, Jason Kidd rolls onto campus and he is the main beneficiary of his passes. And the rest is history.
The talent on the floor in this game was special.
7 NBA players on the floor to start the game!
Impossible! Or so I have been told repeatedly on this board.
Bobodeluxe said:
If you ain't cheatin', you ain't tryin'!
IIRC, UCLA got within 1 with the ball in the last minute and on that possession had a shot clock violation. The best thing about being there was seeing all the UCLA fans leaving with their team down 15 with 3 minutes left, and missing the exciting comeback. The Bruins still lost in the end, but the game was definitely not over yet when a huge chunk of fans left.BadNewsBear1 said:CAL4LIFE said:KAB, the memories. We all know how this era ended but damn was it fun at times. I was at Pauley right behind press row for this epic performance.KoreAmBear said:
Btw, I was a senior during Lamond's freshman year. He had a nice battle with his cousin Tracy Murray of UCLA but we always lost. I saw him on campus one day and told him all these losses are going to turn into wins one day. Sure enough, a year after I left, Jason Kidd rolls onto campus and he is the main beneficiary of his passes. And the rest is history.
The talent on the floor in this game was special.
I was there too. Unbelievable game. I remember sitting in the rafters feeling physically ill as UCLA rallied from about 17 down to within one with the ball in the final seconds, but missed a shot and we pulled it out.
Talent on the floor was in a different universe compared to this team.
dimitrig said:Bobodeluxe said:
If you ain't cheatin', you ain't tryin'!
$30K to Jelani Gardner seems so low in comparison to what is happening now
dimitrig said:Bobodeluxe said:
If you ain't cheatin', you ain't tryin'!
$30K to Jelani Gardner seems so low in comparison to what is happening now
bearister said:dimitrig said:Bobodeluxe said:
If you ain't cheatin', you ain't tryin'!
$30K to Jelani Gardner seems so low in comparison to what is happening now
Had he been able to dribble the ball lower than chest level on his drives, he would have been worth $45K.
Cal8285 said:IIRC, UCLA got within 1 with the ball in the last minute and on that possession had a shot clock violation. The best thing about being there was seeing all the UCLA fans leaving with their team down 15 with 3 minutes left, and missing the exciting comeback. The Bruins still lost in the end, but the game was definitely not over yet when a huge chunk of fans left.BadNewsBear1 said:CAL4LIFE said:KAB, the memories. We all know how this era ended but damn was it fun at times. I was at Pauley right behind press row for this epic performance.KoreAmBear said:
Btw, I was a senior during Lamond's freshman year. He had a nice battle with his cousin Tracy Murray of UCLA but we always lost. I saw him on campus one day and told him all these losses are going to turn into wins one day. Sure enough, a year after I left, Jason Kidd rolls onto campus and he is the main beneficiary of his passes. And the rest is history.
The talent on the floor in this game was special.
I was there too. Unbelievable game. I remember sitting in the rafters feeling physically ill as UCLA rallied from about 17 down to within one with the ball in the final seconds, but missed a shot and we pulled it out.
Talent on the floor was in a different universe compared to this team.
And I guess we're appropriately ignoring the SC game two days later when Cal blew a lead, helped by Jason Kidd getting picked by Stace Boseman while Kidd was taunting the SC student section. A half court buzzer beater from SC tied the game and Cal lost in OT. Ugh. I felt physically ill at Pauley watching Bruins rally on Thursday, but I didn't have to leave feeling sick like I did on Saturday at the Sports Arena.
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8285--You are correct on the shot clock violation. Edney missed a three-pointer after Kidd had hit two FTs after the violation that would have tied it.
It's funny that the SC game and Jelani Gardner came up in this thread. On Friday night between the two games, I went to a Young Alumni dinner with the team at their hotel. They were oddly excited about getting out of there to go see Gardner play down the highway at St. John Bosco.
And yes, the SC game the next night was horrible to watch after the great win at Pauley.