Is eastern Washington beatable?

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wifeisafurd
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I don't see another game Cal can win left on the schedule. Has a Pac team ever gone winless in modern times?
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Eastern Washington & UT Arlington are the only beatable teams left. Maybe we pull off 1 upset in-conference if OSU comes to Haas and has an off night.

No team in D1 history has lost more than 30 games. The worst winless season in D1 history was '07-'08 NJIT who went 0-29. There have been a couple teams to go 1-30. If we indeed do go winless we will be the worst D1 basketball team of all time by record, ending up at 0-32. If we win 1 game we will still hold the record for most losses in a season, ending up at 1-31.

Regardless, we are going to set a record for most losses by a power conference program in D1 history. We aren't good enough to avoid that certainty.
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They are beatable, but not by us....0-10
oskidunker
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bearmanpg said:

They are beatable, but not by us....0-10
Agree. I think Shantay Legans is the coach.
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oskidunker said:

bearmanpg said:

They are beatable, but not by us....0-10
Agree. I think Shantay Legans is the coach.
Legans is the coach at Portland after doing well at Eastern Washington. Legans is 6-4 this year at Portland including a win over Villanova! He is my guy to replace Fox.
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wifeisafurd said:

I don't see another game Cal can win left on the schedule. Has a Pac team ever gone winless in modern times?


No, otherwise Wyking Jones wouldn't have the school record of -16 in a row.
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bearister said:

wifeisafurd said:

I don't see another game Cal can win left on the schedule. Has a Pac team ever gone winless in modern times?


No, otherwise Wyking Jones wouldn't have the school record of -16 in a row.


Jones did win the last three regular season games including beating a ranked UW team once he finally figured out who his starting five should be.

Fox lost a record 17 PAC-12 games two years ago (before Knowlton extended him). Will he break his own record?
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wifeisafurd said:

I don't see another game Cal can win left on the schedule. Has a Pac team ever gone winless in modern times
Going back to 1978-79, when the conference expanded to 10 teams and the basketball schedule was first 18 games (we're now in the third year of a 20 game conference schedule), I believe Oregon St. in 2007-08 (coached by our own Jay John) was the only team to go 0-18. And they went 6-7 OOC.

While Cal is going to be the underdog in every conference game (except maybe Oregon St. at Haas), the odds are that we'll win at least one conference game. The Bears can play some defense, and if the opposition has an off night from 3 and Cal is hitting from 3, and the opposition isn't in the top half of the conference, the Bears could pull one off.

Even if the Bears have played horribly against cream puffs so far, odds of picking up at least one against Eastern Washington or UT Arlington (and who knows, maybe even at Santa Clara if things break right) are pretty good.

Now, if we end up 2-30 after losing in the Pac-12 tournament, it will still be the worst season in major conference history (I'm assuming Louisville won't beat us out this year), and by far the worst season in Pac-12 history. Major conference teams always schedule some cream puffs, and horrible teams like the 07-08 Beavers can still go 6-7 in conference. The Bears had 6 cream puffs on the OOC schedule (and I'm not counting Santa Clara as a cream puff). I would have expected the Bears to lose one of those, likely go 5-6 in non-conference play this year, certainly no worse than 4-7, even if I thought they could go 0-20 in conference. But even if things start coming together, we'll be 3-8 at best, with 2-9 most likely but 0-11 possible. We're definitely on pace for historically bad.

I'm not sure how many we need to win to avoid the title of worst season in major conference history, but it is certainly more than 2.
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It will be a historic win - the 45 fans at Haas will storm the court and Knowlton will give a great interview on how this win signifies a turnaround for the program. THIS is Cal Athletics!!!
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Econ141 said:

It will be a historic win - the 45 fans at Haas will storm the court and Knowlton will give a great interview on how this win signifies a turnaround for the program. THIS is Cal Athletics!!!
And Knowlton will then provide an extension to Fox to reward him for the historic win.
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calumnus said:

bearister said:

wifeisafurd said:

I don't see another game Cal can win left on the schedule. Has a Pac team ever gone winless in modern times?


No, otherwise Wyking Jones wouldn't have the school record of -16 in a row.


Jones did win the last three regular season games including beating a ranked UW team once he finally figured out who his starting five should be.

Fox lost a record 17 PAC-12 games two years ago (before Knowlton extended him). Will he break his own record?
Good thing he got extended. Wouldn't want to go on a one-game Win streak and have other colleges trying to poach!

We should schedule a home-and-home post-season 'tourney' with Louisivile in March.
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Econ141 said:

It will be a historic win - the 45 fans at Haas will storm the court and Knowlton will give a great interview on how this win signifies a turnaround for the program. THIS is Cal Athletics!!!

And the ugly girlfriend analogy will be in play in the post game pressie.
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This is such a sad but fair question.
oskidunker
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I hope Fox gets all the injured players back so he can't continue to use that excuse.
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Shocky1
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the bears are now past today's trap game, the focus is now northern washington which has been circled on the calendar for ages
https://bearinsider.com/forums/2/topics/110786/0
a perfect record/season is on the line#

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bearister said:

Econ141 said:

It will be a historic win - the 45 fans at Haas will storm the court and Knowlton will give a great interview on how this win signifies a turnaround for the program. THIS is Cal Athletics!!!

And the ugly girlfriend analogy will be in play in the post game pressie.
I keep seeing this. can someone explain what happened?
oskidunker
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Fox once commented on an ugly win by saying an ugly win is better than a loss just like having an ugly girlfriend is better than no girlfriend . Strange, to say the least. Not sure I agree
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oskidunker said:

Fox once commented on an ugly win by saying an ugly win is better than a loss just like having an ugly girlfriend is better than no girlfriend . Strange, to say the least. Not sure I agree
not a good look for Fox
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HoopDreams said:

oskidunker said:

Fox once commented on an ugly win by saying an ugly win is better than a loss just like having an ugly girlfriend is better than no girlfriend . Strange, to say the least. Not sure I agree
not a good look for Fox

It was after one of his first few games (you, remember, when we could beat designated stooges). My comment at the time: I think he forgot he wasn't in Georgia or Reno anymore.
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Cal was ahead once rhis year. The exhibition game. <a href="https://ibb.co/8cWdVHC"><img src="" alt="27-F1-F166-97-A0-4773-BEFF-C0-CC98114-B2-D" border="0"></a>
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oskidunker said:

I hope Fox gets all the injured players back so he can't continue to use that excuse.
That won't help, covid has been over for a couple of years and the football team still uses covid as an excuse...cal for some strange reason was the only team affected by covid. Lol
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Oakbear said:

oskidunker said:

I hope Fox gets all the injured players back so he can't continue to use that excuse.
That won't help, covid has been over for a couple of years and the football team still uses covid as an excuse...cal for some strange reason was the only team affected by covid. Lol
Andy Smith must have lost that one game because of Spanish Flu
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Shocky1 said:

the bears are now past today's trap game, the focus is now northern washington which has been circled on the calendar for ages
https://bearinsider.com/forums/2/topics/110786/0
a perfect record/season is on the line#


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Maybe not with Askew out.
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snakebit#
oskidunker
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Left at half time. No one on this team can shoot. Pathetic.I may be done this year.
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oskidunker said:

Left at half time. No one on this team can shoot. Pathetic.I may be done this year.


Rooting for the players but Mark Fox has done a horrible job of assembling a D2 team, much less a power conference D1 team, and he does not coach them up well either. His yelling at them as if it is their fault and yelling will make them better just makes me dislike him more. Plus the fact he makes $2 million a year to give us this.
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wifeisafurd said:

I don't see another game Cal can win left on the schedule. Has a Pac team ever gone winless in modern times?


No, they are not beatable! Our record stays unblemished. PERFECTION!!
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Beatable? Yes
Did we beat? No
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