We may not finish last

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oskidunker
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The way Stanfraud is playing!
Go Bears!
stu
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You call that playing? They're barely going through the motions.

FWIW I'm expecting us to finish in the bottom 4 but not necessarily last.
calumnus
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oskidunker said:

The way Stanfraud is playing!


Can't imagine Haase doesn't get fired. He has some good recruiters on his staff and has good talent on his team, but he is just a really bad coach. Scheme, substitutions, motivation/communications, he is just another one of these relatively young guys trying to be midwestern old school. It worked OK in Birmingham Alabama but it is not a good fit for Stanford (or Cal).

They just might fire him mid season but I don't think there is anyone on staff that good, though morale would improve.
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From the College Basketball Hot Seat Report (updated Jan 11):

Haase was lucky that Cal started so bad because it took the attention of of him, but now the Cardinal are in last place (5-10, 0-5 Pac-12) and just lost to Cal. Haase's seat is engulfed in flames, at this point.
oskidunker
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stu said:

From the College Basketball Hot Seat Report (updated Jan 11):

Haase was lucky that Cal started so bad because it took the attention of of him, but now the Cardinal are in last place (5-10, 0-5 Pac-12) and just lost to Cal. Haase's seat is engulfed in flames, at this point.

Traitor should walk the plank.
Go Bears!
KoreAmBear
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stu said:

From the College Basketball Hot Seat Report (updated Jan 11):

Haase was lucky that Cal started so bad because it took the attention of of him, but now the Cardinal are in last place (5-10, 0-5 Pac-12) and just lost to Cal. Haase's seat is engulfed in flames, at this point.

And unlike us they have 5*s don't they? He sucks.
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KoreAmBear said:

stu said:

From the College Basketball Hot Seat Report (updated Jan 11):

Haase was lucky that Cal started so bad because it took the attention of of him, but now the Cardinal are in last place (5-10, 0-5 Pac-12) and just lost to Cal. Haase's seat is engulfed in flames, at this point.

And unlike us they have 5*s don't they? He sucks.
For what is worth, as a high school junior, Devin Askew was rated #28, a very high 4* in the RCSI top 100, and a 5* by ESPN), so he was borderline 5*. I think he has looked overrated so far, but with his teammates improving their play, that may make a difference for him and us.
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calumnus said:

oskidunker said:

The way Stanfraud is playing!


Can't imagine Haase doesn't get fired. He has some good recruiters on his staff and has good talent on his team, but he is just a really bad coach. Scheme, substitutions, motivation/communications, he is just another one of these relatively young guys trying to be midwestern old school. It worked OK in Birmingham Alabama but it is not a good fit for Stanford (or Cal).

They just might fire him mid season but I don't think there is anyone on staff that good, though morale would improve.


I know the parent of one of the players on Stanford, and she said that he players really like Haase.
stu
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I like Haase too. I hope he stays at Stanford for decades to come.
calumnus
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SFCityBear said:

KoreAmBear said:

stu said:

From the College Basketball Hot Seat Report (updated Jan 11):

Haase was lucky that Cal started so bad because it took the attention of of him, but now the Cardinal are in last place (5-10, 0-5 Pac-12) and just lost to Cal. Haase's seat is engulfed in flames, at this point.

And unlike us they have 5*s don't they? He sucks.
For what is worth, as a high school junior, Devin Askew was rated #28, a very high 4* in the RCSI top 100, and a 5* by ESPN), so he was borderline 5*. I think he has looked overrated so far, but with his teammates improving their play, that may make a difference for him and us.



Askew was rated 4 stars out of HS, but 3 stars as a transfer out of Texas. His was rated lower than Okafor, but higher than Newell:

https://247sports.com/college/california/Season/2022-Basketball/Commits/

Of course, the Stanford guys that were rated 4 and 5 stars might be rated lower at this point if they were to transfer too.
calumnus
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Our best competition for last is Oregon State. Then UW, then Stanford. We beat Stanford at home. That helps. The game against UW is big, one of our most winnable road games.
calumnus
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Well, we took UW to OT in Seattle.

The next 4 games are key:
Oregon
OSU
@Stanford
@Colorado
stu
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I'd say the next 3. Colorado is always tough in Boulder and they're likely to remember the beatdown we laid on them for the first 30 minutes in Berkeley.
calumnus
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stu said:

I'd say the next 3. Colorado is always tough in Boulder and they're likely to remember the beatdown we laid on them for the first 30 minutes in Berkeley.


This week is big for sorting out the PAC-12, both at the top and at the bottom.

Thurs/Friday Gamesnof note:

3-5 UW at 3-5 Colorado
4-3 Oregon @ 2-5 Cal
1-5 OSU @ 0-7 Furd


Big C
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calumnus said:

stu said:

I'd say the next 3. Colorado is always tough in Boulder and they're likely to remember the beatdown we laid on them for the first 30 minutes in Berkeley.


This week is big for sorting out the PAC-12, both at the top and at the bottom.

Thurs/Friday Gamesnof note:

3-5 UW at 3-5 Colorado
4-3 Oregon @ 2-5 Cal
1-5 OSU @ 0-7 Furd




That's what being a Cal Basketball fan has become: sorting out the bottom.

Nevertheless, I am headed to the Haas in about an hour.
Econ141
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Big C said:

calumnus said:

stu said:

I'd say the next 3. Colorado is always tough in Boulder and they're likely to remember the beatdown we laid on them for the first 30 minutes in Berkeley.


This week is big for sorting out the PAC-12, both at the top and at the bottom.

Thurs/Friday Gamesnof note:

3-5 UW at 3-5 Colorado
4-3 Oregon @ 2-5 Cal
1-5 OSU @ 0-7 Furd




That's what being a Cal Basketball fan has become: sorting out the bottom.

Nevertheless, I am headed to the Haas in about an hour.


Good luck at the game and much respect for going. Any fan that pays to go to multiple games during the Fox era (it is quickly becoming an era) deserves to have their names etched into some of the seats.
Big C
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Econ141 said:

Big C said:

calumnus said:

stu said:

I'd say the next 3. Colorado is always tough in Boulder and they're likely to remember the beatdown we laid on them for the first 30 minutes in Berkeley.


This week is big for sorting out the PAC-12, both at the top and at the bottom.

Thurs/Friday Gamesnof note:

3-5 UW at 3-5 Colorado
4-3 Oregon @ 2-5 Cal
1-5 OSU @ 0-7 Furd




That's what being a Cal Basketball fan has become: sorting out the bottom.

Nevertheless, I am headed to the Haas in about an hour.


Good luck at the game and much respect for going. Any fan that pays to go to multiple games during the Fox era (it is quickly becoming an era) deserves to have their names etched into some of the seats.

We have a group of about ten seats... long-time Cal friends. Living fairly close and being recently retired makes it easier, too. I certainly wouldn't be going if it were just me and I hadn't already paid. I enjoyed the victory over Furd, but now I'm ready to fast-forward to something new. Tonight was pathetic.

Go Bears.
eastcoastcal
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I caught a t-shirt at the game. yay! I also took my friend to her first cal basketball game, she enjoyed it despite the not-so-great play.

I do wish I could fast-forward to March though. Now that we've had a few wins there's not much to watch for unfortunately
stu
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Don't miss the Oregon State game. That will probably be our best chance for a win.

If today's game didn't drive your friend away she must really like you.

KoreAmBear
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stu said:

Don't miss the Oregon State game. That will probably be our best chance for a win.

If today's game didn't drive your friend away she must really like you.


Nah we always have Furd.
oskidunker
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I was there. Not enjoyable.
Go Bears!
joe amos yaks
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calumnus said:

oskidunker said:

The way Stanfraud is playing!


Can't imagine Haase doesn't get fired. He has some good recruiters on his staff and has good talent on his team, but he is just a really bad coach. Scheme, substitutions, motivation/communications, he is just another one of these relatively young guys trying to be midwestern old school. It worked OK in Birmingham Alabama but it is not a good fit for Stanford (or Cal).

They just might fire him mid season but I don't think there is anyone on staff that good, though morale would improve.

Maybe it's injuries?
"Those who say don't know, and those who know don't say." - LT
stu
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KoreAmBear said:

stu said:

Don't miss the Oregon State game. That will probably be our best chance for a win.

If today's game didn't drive your friend away she must really like you.


Nah we always have Furd.
Yes, we always have a chance against Stanford but tonight they beat Oregon State by 21. I still see two more wins coming.
Big C
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stu said:

KoreAmBear said:

stu said:

Don't miss the Oregon State game. That will probably be our best chance for a win.

If today's game didn't drive your friend away she must really like you.


Nah we always have Furd.
Yes, we always have a chance against Stanford but tonight they beat Oregon State by 21. I still see two more wins coming.

Could be two, could be four, could well be none. I was at the Haas last night... and it was tough.
calumnus
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Tomorrow's game against OSU is a must win if we are not going to finish in last place.
stu
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I see home and away vs. Oregon State, home vs. Washington, and away vs. Stanford as our best chances for wins. We or any of those teams could steal a win or two against others so I think we could finish anywhere from 9th to 12th.
Golden One
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I think we have last place locked up now. I can't see any more wins this season. Sad. Very sad.
calumnus
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Golden One said:

I think we have last place locked up now. I can't see any more wins this season. Sad. Very sad.


Yeah, Stanford's talent is overcoming Haase's coaching. OSU just obliterated us at home. We now have to beat them on the road where we are yet to win.
HoopDreams
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I would like to see us with both Clayton and Askew playing in the same game

probably vs stanford in a week
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HoopDreams said:

I would like to see us with both Clayton and Askew playing in the same game

probably vs stanford in a week


The one game they played together we scored 43, our lowest of the year. Askew and Brown started, each playing 27 minutes scoring 7 and 4 points respectively. Clayton came off the bench, played 22 scoring 5. They combined for 4 assists and 8 turnovers.

HoopDreams
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calumnus said:

HoopDreams said:

I would like to see us with both Clayton and Askew playing in the same game

probably vs stanford in a week


The one game they played together we scored 43, our lowest of the year. Askew and Brown started, each playing 27 minutes scoring 7 and 4 points respectively. Clayton came off the bench, played 22 scoring 5. They combined for 4 assists and 8 turnovers.
oh, I didn't remember they played together already
calumnus
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HoopDreams said:

calumnus said:

HoopDreams said:

I would like to see us with both Clayton and Askew playing in the same game

probably vs stanford in a week


The one game they played together we scored 43, our lowest of the year. Askew and Brown started, each playing 27 minutes scoring 7 and 4 points respectively. Clayton came off the bench, played 22 scoring 5. They combined for 4 assists and 8 turnovers.
oh, I didn't remember they played together already


It was not memorable. Our worst output, albeit against a pretty good team (Utah).

I don't think it makes sense go three guards and play Brown, Askew and Clayton together (although if Alajiki is out….). So it is 2 of the three at any time. It is better than the alternative, but an incremental improvement, not a quantum leap.
HoopDreams
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probably right

calumnus said:

HoopDreams said:

calumnus said:

HoopDreams said:

I would like to see us with both Clayton and Askew playing in the same game

probably vs stanford in a week


The one game they played together we scored 43, our lowest of the year. Askew and Brown started, each playing 27 minutes scoring 7 and 4 points respectively. Clayton came off the bench, played 22 scoring 5. They combined for 4 assists and 8 turnovers.
oh, I didn't remember they played together already


It was not memorable. Our worst output, albeit against a pretty good team (Utah).

I don't think it makes sense go three guards and play Brown, Askew and Clayton together (although if Alajiki is out….). So it is 2 of the three at any time. It is better than the alternative, but an incremental improvement, not a quantum leap.
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