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Gee, Conzo refused to come back?Deutsch said:
If he would consider Cal, what would Cal do to bring him to Berkeley?
He'd probably do very well here and if we're being real, probably from a basketball standpoint is the best option we could target. His scandals likely make him a no-go though
Much better than Fox, but we can do better. And probably should. Instead of older and pricey, I'd recommend at this juncture that Cal go for a younger inexpensive coach.
If bioengineers from UCSF could clone Pete Newell from his DNA harvested from dried saliva left where he kissed the 1959 NCAA basketball trophy, should they do this so he could come back and coach at Cal?
This is just about as likely as the Pitino scenario, and just about as worthy of discussion.
This is just about as likely as the Pitino scenario, and just about as worthy of discussion.
Would X coach consider Cal? That is the question to ask, and not, should Cal target this guy? The state of basketball program administration and commitment(facilities, NIL, etc), Knowlton competence, and future of Cal in Pac12 will cause many guys, even younger up-and-comers out west to really question whether it's worth it to take this challenge, let alone nationally prominent coaches and career east coasters. Cal will still be near the bottom in salary.
smokeyrover said:
Would X coach consider Cal? That is the question to ask, and not, should Cal target this guy? The state of basketball program administration and commitment(facilities, NIL, etc), Knowlton competence, and future of Cal in Pac12 will cause many guys, even younger up-and-comers out west to really question whether it's worth it to take this challenge, let alone nationally prominent coaches and career east coasters. Cal will still be near the bottom in salary.
Fox is the highest paid coach of the many teams in the Bay Area and Northern California. That includes teams that are currently ranked.
$1.9 million per year is a great salary for the thousands of basketball coaches who are not elite, not proven winners in conference and in the NCAA tournament.
Fox has the highest salary per win the conference, the second highest in the entire country (Louisville has us beat there, but it is Payne's first year, this is Fox's 4th).
An AD that extends a losing coach like Fox and makes excuses for a 3 win season is not driving away "good up and comers" they would love to work for an AD who is so laissez faire and get $1.9 million a year with zero expectations. Who wouldn't want a job like that? The problem is that Knowlton is not competent to find and hire a good up and comer.
We need to have a search committee, made of of Cal basketball alums not of Knowlton's choosing, run the next search. There are good young coaches out there that would LOVE to come to Cal.
My friend was Pitino's lead Assistant last year. He says Pitino would never come to Cal. Pitino wants to win and win big...
Exactly. We've been going steadily downhill beginning with the loss to Hawaii, for a host of reasons, and now we have a reputation, which will take a lot of money and a very talented coach/recruiter to undo and reverse.DWM81 said:
My friend was Pitino's lead Assistant last year. He says Pitino would never come to Cal. Pitino wants to win and win big...
SFCityBear
If the objective is to fire the coach, what is to be gained by continually verbally ridiculing the one person most likely to have the authority to fire him? If Knowlton reads these threads, wouldn't he be more likely to dig his heels in, and not give in to us? Do you think we can bully him into submission?calumnus said:smokeyrover said:
Would X coach consider Cal? That is the question to ask, and not, should Cal target this guy? The state of basketball program administration and commitment(facilities, NIL, etc), Knowlton competence, and future of Cal in Pac12 will cause many guys, even younger up-and-comers out west to really question whether it's worth it to take this challenge, let alone nationally prominent coaches and career east coasters. Cal will still be near the bottom in salary.
Fox is the highest paid coach of the many teams in the Bay Area and Northern California. That includes teams that are currently ranked.
$1.9 million per year is a great salary for the thousands of basketball coaches who are not elite, not proven winners in conference and in the NCAA tournament.
Fox has the highest salary per win the conference, the second highest in the entire country (Louisville has us beat there, but it is Payne's first year, this is Fox's 4th).
An AD that extends a losing coach like Fox and makes excuses for a 3 win season is not driving away "good up and comers" they would love to work for an AD who is so laissez faire and get $1.9 million a year with zero expectations. Who wouldn't want a job like that? The problem is that Knowlton is not competent to find and hire a good up and comer.
We need to have a search committee, made of of Cal basketball alums not of Knowlton's choosing, run the next search. There are good young coaches out there that would LOVE to come to Cal.
SFCityBear
Knowlton does not read Bi - but fortunately the decision while not officially announced, has been made. Just waiting till the conclusion of the season. JK has been in discussions with prominent X players, key donor's etc. and this time around will be a thorough vetting of options.SFCityBear said:If the objective is to fire the coach, what is to be gained by continually verbally ridiculing the one person most likely to have the authority to fire him? If Knowlton reads these threads, wouldn't he be more likely to dig his heels in, and not give in to us? Do you think we can bully him into submission?calumnus said:smokeyrover said:
Would X coach consider Cal? That is the question to ask, and not, should Cal target this guy? The state of basketball program administration and commitment(facilities, NIL, etc), Knowlton competence, and future of Cal in Pac12 will cause many guys, even younger up-and-comers out west to really question whether it's worth it to take this challenge, let alone nationally prominent coaches and career east coasters. Cal will still be near the bottom in salary.
Fox is the highest paid coach of the many teams in the Bay Area and Northern California. That includes teams that are currently ranked.
$1.9 million per year is a great salary for the thousands of basketball coaches who are not elite, not proven winners in conference and in the NCAA tournament.
Fox has the highest salary per win the conference, the second highest in the entire country (Louisville has us beat there, but it is Payne's first year, this is Fox's 4th).
An AD that extends a losing coach like Fox and makes excuses for a 3 win season is not driving away "good up and comers" they would love to work for an AD who is so laissez faire and get $1.9 million a year with zero expectations. Who wouldn't want a job like that? The problem is that Knowlton is not competent to find and hire a good up and comer.
We need to have a search committee, made of of Cal basketball alums not of Knowlton's choosing, run the next search. There are good young coaches out there that would LOVE to come to Cal.
Finally!! TY for that 4th Gen.
Start Slowly and taper off
Whew.
4thGenCal said:Knowlton does not read Bi - but fortunately the decision while not officially announced, has been made. Just waiting till the conclusion of the season. JK has been in discussions with prominent X players, key donor's etc. and this time around will be a thorough vetting of options.SFCityBear said:If the objective is to fire the coach, what is to be gained by continually verbally ridiculing the one person most likely to have the authority to fire him? If Knowlton reads these threads, wouldn't he be more likely to dig his heels in, and not give in to us? Do you think we can bully him into submission?calumnus said:smokeyrover said:
Would X coach consider Cal? That is the question to ask, and not, should Cal target this guy? The state of basketball program administration and commitment(facilities, NIL, etc), Knowlton competence, and future of Cal in Pac12 will cause many guys, even younger up-and-comers out west to really question whether it's worth it to take this challenge, let alone nationally prominent coaches and career east coasters. Cal will still be near the bottom in salary.
Fox is the highest paid coach of the many teams in the Bay Area and Northern California. That includes teams that are currently ranked.
$1.9 million per year is a great salary for the thousands of basketball coaches who are not elite, not proven winners in conference and in the NCAA tournament.
Fox has the highest salary per win the conference, the second highest in the entire country (Louisville has us beat there, but it is Payne's first year, this is Fox's 4th).
An AD that extends a losing coach like Fox and makes excuses for a 3 win season is not driving away "good up and comers" they would love to work for an AD who is so laissez faire and get $1.9 million a year with zero expectations. Who wouldn't want a job like that? The problem is that Knowlton is not competent to find and hire a good up and comer.
We need to have a search committee, made of of Cal basketball alums not of Knowlton's choosing, run the next search. There are good young coaches out there that would LOVE to come to Cal.
Why wait?
JimSox said:4thGenCal said:Knowlton does not read Bi - but fortunately the decision while not officially announced, has been made. Just waiting till the conclusion of the season. JK has been in discussions with prominent X players, key donor's etc. and this time around will be a thorough vetting of options.SFCityBear said:If the objective is to fire the coach, what is to be gained by continually verbally ridiculing the one person most likely to have the authority to fire him? If Knowlton reads these threads, wouldn't he be more likely to dig his heels in, and not give in to us? Do you think we can bully him into submission?calumnus said:smokeyrover said:
Would X coach consider Cal? That is the question to ask, and not, should Cal target this guy? The state of basketball program administration and commitment(facilities, NIL, etc), Knowlton competence, and future of Cal in Pac12 will cause many guys, even younger up-and-comers out west to really question whether it's worth it to take this challenge, let alone nationally prominent coaches and career east coasters. Cal will still be near the bottom in salary.
Fox is the highest paid coach of the many teams in the Bay Area and Northern California. That includes teams that are currently ranked.
$1.9 million per year is a great salary for the thousands of basketball coaches who are not elite, not proven winners in conference and in the NCAA tournament.
Fox has the highest salary per win the conference, the second highest in the entire country (Louisville has us beat there, but it is Payne's first year, this is Fox's 4th).
An AD that extends a losing coach like Fox and makes excuses for a 3 win season is not driving away "good up and comers" they would love to work for an AD who is so laissez faire and get $1.9 million a year with zero expectations. Who wouldn't want a job like that? The problem is that Knowlton is not competent to find and hire a good up and comer.
We need to have a search committee, made of of Cal basketball alums not of Knowlton's choosing, run the next search. There are good young coaches out there that would LOVE to come to Cal.
Why wait?
To see if he can get the worst record. Got to have his names attached completely to this. No one else should own it- well Fox and Knowlton.
Great to hear. There is some light.4thGenCal said:Knowlton does not read Bi - but fortunately the decision while not officially announced, has been made. Just waiting till the conclusion of the season. JK has been in discussions with prominent X players, key donor's etc. and this time around will be a thorough vetting of options.SFCityBear said:If the objective is to fire the coach, what is to be gained by continually verbally ridiculing the one person most likely to have the authority to fire him? If Knowlton reads these threads, wouldn't he be more likely to dig his heels in, and not give in to us? Do you think we can bully him into submission?calumnus said:smokeyrover said:
Would X coach consider Cal? That is the question to ask, and not, should Cal target this guy? The state of basketball program administration and commitment(facilities, NIL, etc), Knowlton competence, and future of Cal in Pac12 will cause many guys, even younger up-and-comers out west to really question whether it's worth it to take this challenge, let alone nationally prominent coaches and career east coasters. Cal will still be near the bottom in salary.
Fox is the highest paid coach of the many teams in the Bay Area and Northern California. That includes teams that are currently ranked.
$1.9 million per year is a great salary for the thousands of basketball coaches who are not elite, not proven winners in conference and in the NCAA tournament.
Fox has the highest salary per win the conference, the second highest in the entire country (Louisville has us beat there, but it is Payne's first year, this is Fox's 4th).
An AD that extends a losing coach like Fox and makes excuses for a 3 win season is not driving away "good up and comers" they would love to work for an AD who is so laissez faire and get $1.9 million a year with zero expectations. Who wouldn't want a job like that? The problem is that Knowlton is not competent to find and hire a good up and comer.
We need to have a search committee, made of of Cal basketball alums not of Knowlton's choosing, run the next search. There are good young coaches out there that would LOVE to come to Cal.
Thanks for that. If Knowlton stays with this plan I'll give him credit.4thGenCal said:
Knowlton does not read Bi - but fortunately the decision while not officially announced, has been made. Just waiting till the conclusion of the season. JK has been in discussions with prominent X players, key donor's etc. and this time around will be a thorough vetting of options.
parentswerebears said:JimSox said:4thGenCal said:Knowlton does not read Bi - but fortunately the decision while not officially announced, has been made. Just waiting till the conclusion of the season. JK has been in discussions with prominent X players, key donor's etc. and this time around will be a thorough vetting of options.SFCityBear said:If the objective is to fire the coach, what is to be gained by continually verbally ridiculing the one person most likely to have the authority to fire him? If Knowlton reads these threads, wouldn't he be more likely to dig his heels in, and not give in to us? Do you think we can bully him into submission?calumnus said:smokeyrover said:
Would X coach consider Cal? That is the question to ask, and not, should Cal target this guy? The state of basketball program administration and commitment(facilities, NIL, etc), Knowlton competence, and future of Cal in Pac12 will cause many guys, even younger up-and-comers out west to really question whether it's worth it to take this challenge, let alone nationally prominent coaches and career east coasters. Cal will still be near the bottom in salary.
Fox is the highest paid coach of the many teams in the Bay Area and Northern California. That includes teams that are currently ranked.
$1.9 million per year is a great salary for the thousands of basketball coaches who are not elite, not proven winners in conference and in the NCAA tournament.
Fox has the highest salary per win the conference, the second highest in the entire country (Louisville has us beat there, but it is Payne's first year, this is Fox's 4th).
An AD that extends a losing coach like Fox and makes excuses for a 3 win season is not driving away "good up and comers" they would love to work for an AD who is so laissez faire and get $1.9 million a year with zero expectations. Who wouldn't want a job like that? The problem is that Knowlton is not competent to find and hire a good up and comer.
We need to have a search committee, made of of Cal basketball alums not of Knowlton's choosing, run the next search. There are good young coaches out there that would LOVE to come to Cal.
Why wait?
To see if he can get the worst record. Got to have his names attached completely to this. No one else should own it- well Fox and Knowlton.
Already has the lowest winning percentage for a season wrapped up.
Pending the Pac-12 Tournament results. Not that I'm expecting miracles.calumnus said:
Already has the lowest winning percentage for a season wrapped up.
And let's not just go with The Kick ... OK out of respect for Shocky, Pasternack.stu said:Thanks for that. If Knowlton stays with this plan I'll give him credit.4thGenCal said:
Knowlton does not read Bi - but fortunately the decision while not officially announced, has been made. Just waiting till the conclusion of the season. JK has been in discussions with prominent X players, key donor's etc. and this time around will be a thorough vetting of options.
He should not be penciled in as our next coach. If he wins out after a diligent and thorough search, so be it. But I wouldn't just do what the donors say. Just like I wouldn't just do what the search firm says. My we hire the best coach possible under the circumstances.
KoreAmBear said:And let's not just go with The Kick ... OK out of respect for Shocky, Pasternack.stu said:Thanks for that. If Knowlton stays with this plan I'll give him credit.4thGenCal said:
Knowlton does not read Bi - but fortunately the decision while not officially announced, has been made. Just waiting till the conclusion of the season. JK has been in discussions with prominent X players, key donor's etc. and this time around will be a thorough vetting of options.
He should not be penciled in as our next coach. If he wins out after a diligent and thorough search, so be it. But I wouldn't just do what the donors say. Just like I wouldn't just do what the search firm says. My we hire the best coach possible under the circumstances.
Agreed. The only intriguing thing to me about Pasternak is the idea that has been suggested that there are donors that would put up big bucks for NIL if he is the coach, but not for other coaches. If they will back other coaches too, then I think we can do better.
Seems too good to be true but keeping my fingers crossed.4thGenCal said:Knowlton does not read Bi - but fortunately the decision while not officially announced, has been made. Just waiting till the conclusion of the season. JK has been in discussions with prominent X players, key donor's etc. and this time around will be a thorough vetting of options.SFCityBear said:If the objective is to fire the coach, what is to be gained by continually verbally ridiculing the one person most likely to have the authority to fire him? If Knowlton reads these threads, wouldn't he be more likely to dig his heels in, and not give in to us? Do you think we can bully him into submission?calumnus said:smokeyrover said:
Would X coach consider Cal? That is the question to ask, and not, should Cal target this guy? The state of basketball program administration and commitment(facilities, NIL, etc), Knowlton competence, and future of Cal in Pac12 will cause many guys, even younger up-and-comers out west to really question whether it's worth it to take this challenge, let alone nationally prominent coaches and career east coasters. Cal will still be near the bottom in salary.
Fox is the highest paid coach of the many teams in the Bay Area and Northern California. That includes teams that are currently ranked.
$1.9 million per year is a great salary for the thousands of basketball coaches who are not elite, not proven winners in conference and in the NCAA tournament.
Fox has the highest salary per win the conference, the second highest in the entire country (Louisville has us beat there, but it is Payne's first year, this is Fox's 4th).
An AD that extends a losing coach like Fox and makes excuses for a 3 win season is not driving away "good up and comers" they would love to work for an AD who is so laissez faire and get $1.9 million a year with zero expectations. Who wouldn't want a job like that? The problem is that Knowlton is not competent to find and hire a good up and comer.
We need to have a search committee, made of of Cal basketball alums not of Knowlton's choosing, run the next search. There are good young coaches out there that would LOVE to come to Cal.
Fire Knowlton!
Fire Fox!
Put Wilcox in a hot seat!
Fire Fox!
Put Wilcox in a hot seat!
Now if only Carol Christ could be in discussion with prominent ex-players, key donors etc. and make the right decision on Knowlton.4thGenCal said:Knowlton does not read Bi - but fortunately the decision while not officially announced, has been made. Just waiting till the conclusion of the season. JK has been in discussions with prominent X players, key donor's etc. and this time around will be a thorough vetting of options.SFCityBear said:If the objective is to fire the coach, what is to be gained by continually verbally ridiculing the one person most likely to have the authority to fire him? If Knowlton reads these threads, wouldn't he be more likely to dig his heels in, and not give in to us? Do you think we can bully him into submission?calumnus said:smokeyrover said:
Would X coach consider Cal? That is the question to ask, and not, should Cal target this guy? The state of basketball program administration and commitment(facilities, NIL, etc), Knowlton competence, and future of Cal in Pac12 will cause many guys, even younger up-and-comers out west to really question whether it's worth it to take this challenge, let alone nationally prominent coaches and career east coasters. Cal will still be near the bottom in salary.
Fox is the highest paid coach of the many teams in the Bay Area and Northern California. That includes teams that are currently ranked.
$1.9 million per year is a great salary for the thousands of basketball coaches who are not elite, not proven winners in conference and in the NCAA tournament.
Fox has the highest salary per win the conference, the second highest in the entire country (Louisville has us beat there, but it is Payne's first year, this is Fox's 4th).
An AD that extends a losing coach like Fox and makes excuses for a 3 win season is not driving away "good up and comers" they would love to work for an AD who is so laissez faire and get $1.9 million a year with zero expectations. Who wouldn't want a job like that? The problem is that Knowlton is not competent to find and hire a good up and comer.
We need to have a search committee, made of of Cal basketball alums not of Knowlton's choosing, run the next search. There are good young coaches out there that would LOVE to come to Cal.
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