Monster Coaching Search Thread
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Hoops recruiting has been a cesspool for a long time. The transfer portal has simply made it worse. NIL can help weaker programs that have donors that want to win, but will not be involved in the under the table or illlegal stuff that many of the blueblood programs have been doing since the beginning of time.BeachedBear said:
My gut tells me that at this point and with Knowlton's reputation, we will not get someone like Pasternak. We probably need to focus more on younger, less proven (more desperate?).
Maybe with his Donor connection, we can mitigate that, but I would assume his agent is steering him to better pastures, when the season ends.
One other thing I've heard is that some of the college coaches who can retire are not so excited about the changes in NCAA hoops (NIL, recruiting, etc) and may decide its time to hang it up. If so, that will mean even more demand for coaches like Pasternak.
No question Pasternak could be appealling to other programs and Cal will no longer be a real player for him.But I do think you have to get in on him immediately and make him your priority choice if you truly want him.
There will be competition for any coach that is qualified.
This is a really great list of possibilities. Much cheaper than a search firm with a stable of retreads too.
First step though is to Fire Fox.
Tomorrow would be a very good day for that.
First step though is to Fire Fox.
Tomorrow would be a very good day for that.
Tomorrow? What are too busy today?bluesaxe said:
This is a really great list of possibilities. Much cheaper than a search firm with a stable of retreads too.
First step though is to Fire Fox.
Tomorrow would be a very good day for that.
Please don't repeat history...
No, they hired him because Knowlton let the search firm (Collegiate Sports Associates) do the heavy lifting.https://t.co/zGd4Pu4UBo https://t.co/hUKyHlsZl7
— Jon Wilner (@wilnerhotline) March 9, 2023
philbert said:
Please don't repeat history...No, they hired him because Knowlton let the search firm (Collegiate Sports Associates) do the heavy lifting.https://t.co/zGd4Pu4UBo https://t.co/hUKyHlsZl7
— Jon Wilner (@wilnerhotline) March 9, 2023
Yeah, Dennis Gates was hired by Cleveland State months later and for a fraction of what we are paying Fox.
I was reminded by another Cal alum that Chris Mack may have been offered the Cal job back in 2014 when Mack was still at Xavier.
A friend says he recalls Mack accepting - or at least considered accepting - but then changing his mind to stay at Xavier for family reasons.
A friend says he recalls Mack accepting - or at least considered accepting - but then changing his mind to stay at Xavier for family reasons.
KoreAmBear said:
Monster Coaching Search Thread
If you're going to call it Monster, it has to include some Shocky soft yoga porn, and reducing women to sex objects for men's enjoyment and/or adornment.
Has he chimed in with that yet?
+1 4th gen on the money as usual, hiring bod's lou richie as a life/academic mentor coach would favorably impact nor cal recruiting relationships both in high school & portal bounce backs to the bay that didn't wanna play for the last 2 coaches...joe also got a good relationship with ben braun4thGenCal said:Agreed 100% 1) Several large Donor's endorse him and will provide significant NIL monies 2) Solid west coast recruiting ties (Oakland Soldiers/Prolific Prep - plus Africa recruiting prowess connections 3) Proven fund raising record (raised $10M personally in his tenure of 5 seasons at UCSB) 4) Has backing of key agents (Bill Duffy, Calvin Andrews, Omar Wilkes) and support from several past Cal player alums (Sean Marx, Leon Power, Ryan Anderson, Richard Midgely, Theo Robertson to name a few) 5) Proven record of winning/turnaround program at UCSB) 6) Wants the job and sees this as his ultimate job - not a stepping stone. Yet a few people make a big deal at a "non event" of a reflex leg kick that was a nothing burger - Bottom line, Pasternak would restore the program to legitimately competing for conference titles. He is all about winning and expects nothing less from himself and his staff. As a bonus it is very likely that a key UCSB guard (all conf Big West) would follow Him where ever He ends up. Yet - JK may not want to feel He was forced into a decision that was not his own. Make no mistake about JK, He is a tough/obstinate AD, who will not be leveraged into a decision based solely on donation level. JK will make the decision He believes is best - and in concert with Jason Kidd/Sean Marx, Sharif Abdul Rahim support. Personally it is a must for the new coach/staff to control the Bay Area in recruiting - Cannot let top local prospects go elsewhere - Having tight and loyal developed relationships with the key programs locally, is a key strength of Pasternack. Finally JP knows the obstacles/hinderances of Cal - there are no surprises and He understands the landscape. Let's hope JK gets the hire correctly as its a defining moment for sure.ManBearLion123 said:
Can we just make the simple/no-brainer hire and go with Pasternack?
Sure, there are some outside-the-box candidates that would be nice hires (i.e. Dusty May, Amir Abdur-Raheem, Ryan Odom) but a) I don't trust Knowlton to make a successful "interesting" hire, and b) most of those coaches have minimal ties to the West Coast and/or would be top candidates for more attractive openings.
Pasternack ticks every single box of what we shoul be looking for in our next HC. No need to complicate this.
shareef's support is important with his ability to support nil & also foreshadow jaylen brown's support at last of the program, his next contract is likely to be the nba max $290,000,000 payout
player development will be a strength with pasternack, more than half the guys this season got broken down shooting mechanics that need to mentored this offseason as soon as possible
joe is a player's coach, cal will be a player's program unlike fox who wuz disliked/not respected by the vast majority of the players per their families/former coaches, do not confuse fear with likeability
ajay mitchell of the gauchos would be a potential impact transfer, 15.2 ppg on 49.4% who facilitates his teammates with 5.1 assists per game...the days of unwatchable no movement hero ball will be over in berkeley
ucsb is 24-7 & plays cal poly tonite on espn
What about Mark Madsen (former Stanfurd player). He has been very successful at Utah Valley State and has an NBA background
Sure, but more likely to replace Haase at furd.DavisBear said:
What about Mark Madsen (former Stanfurd player). He has been very successful at Utah Valley State and has an NBA background
eastcoastcal said:Love the steve nash idea btw (i just think it would jump start recruiting)KoreAmBear said:
Put on our search list every coach on here that makes less than $500K (or a number way less than what we would offer, as to incentivize them):Top 50 College Basketball Coaches Of The Year pic.twitter.com/bUO9tkXNA6
— Big Game Boomer (@BigGameBoomer) March 6, 2023
but a cursory glance at this list for coaches who are "poachable" and seem to be successful: to be clear, a bunch of these guys are going to have interest from better programs than us
Dusty May
Pat Kelsey
Paul Mills
Tod Kowalczyk
Amir Abdul-Rahim
Ryan Odom
Leon Rice
Brian Wardle
May ought to be a hot commodity but he'd be a huge upgrade in style of play, style of coaching, and overall approach. He's got a rep as a guy who is constantly learning as well as a great teacher. No West Coast connections and probably not a guy our fearless "leader" would ever pick but he seems like a good upside swing to me.
I really don't think many on this board really grasp how DIFFERENT UC is from the rest of the college athletic world. UCLA is really the outlier (and not that much except in those eras where you have VERY strong coaches (Chipster) or success (current hoops).bluesaxe said:eastcoastcal said:Love the steve nash idea btw (i just think it would jump start recruiting)KoreAmBear said:
Put on our search list every coach on here that makes less than $500K (or a number way less than what we would offer, as to incentivize them):Top 50 College Basketball Coaches Of The Year pic.twitter.com/bUO9tkXNA6
— Big Game Boomer (@BigGameBoomer) March 6, 2023
but a cursory glance at this list for coaches who are "poachable" and seem to be successful: to be clear, a bunch of these guys are going to have interest from better programs than us
Dusty May
Pat Kelsey
Paul Mills
Tod Kowalczyk
Amir Abdul-Rahim
Ryan Odom
Leon Rice
Brian Wardle
May ought to be a hot commodity but he'd be a huge upgrade in style of play, style of coaching, and overall approach. He's got a rep as a guy who is constantly learning as well as a great teacher. No West Coast connections and probably not a guy our fearless "leader" would ever pick but he seems like a good upside swing to me.
Whereas in most of college athletics the atthletic teams are co-equals (or more) with the academic side of the house and where there is a strong business case (marketing and brand awareness at schools looking to juice application pool) for sports success this is NOT the case at UC. It just isn't. This can (and has) frustrated coaches at Cal endlessly. See Sonny Dykes for a great example and ditto Martin. It just sets up tension from day one if someone is hired that doesn't "get it". Heck, Shocky1 doesn't get it with his *****ing about Martin's kid not getting a special treatment in the admissions process.
We MUST (IMO) hire a coach who doesn't chaff about that from day 1. Either because they have coached (or at least assisted) at a UC or because in the interview process (I would note with a NON UC'er in the AD chair) they get this.
It is really why I think Pasternack is the right choice (or at least lets see). Joe would NOT come in from day 1 frustrated. He has navigated that situation down at UCSB now for several years and as video boy knows his way around the Berkeley campus. Turner (who I don't like ) would also come in and be able to navigate things. But FAU is a school where Basketball success _IS_ important to the business case of raising the applicant pool and thus USN&W rankings.
BTW - I also don't think this is really a student athlete alumn thing either. Students see some of this but mostly as students. Far different and removed from the fact that at many schools the coach can call up a faculty member and get what they need for a player and where at Cal those phone calls are rarely made and if they are the coach quickly finds out who is boss.
I would question if Pasternak sees a Cal move as his next best opportunity...is he holding out for a bigger pay day?socaltownie said:I really don't think many on this board really grasp how DIFFERENT UC is from the rest of the college athletic world. UCLA is really the outlier (and not that much except in those eras where you have VERY strong coaches (Chipster) or success (current hoops).bluesaxe said:eastcoastcal said:Love the steve nash idea btw (i just think it would jump start recruiting)KoreAmBear said:
Put on our search list every coach on here that makes less than $500K (or a number way less than what we would offer, as to incentivize them):Top 50 College Basketball Coaches Of The Year pic.twitter.com/bUO9tkXNA6
— Big Game Boomer (@BigGameBoomer) March 6, 2023
but a cursory glance at this list for coaches who are "poachable" and seem to be successful: to be clear, a bunch of these guys are going to have interest from better programs than us
Dusty May
Pat Kelsey
Paul Mills
Tod Kowalczyk
Amir Abdul-Rahim
Ryan Odom
Leon Rice
Brian Wardle
May ought to be a hot commodity but he'd be a huge upgrade in style of play, style of coaching, and overall approach. He's got a rep as a guy who is constantly learning as well as a great teacher. No West Coast connections and probably not a guy our fearless "leader" would ever pick but he seems like a good upside swing to me.
Whereas in most of college athletics the atthletic teams are co-equals (or more) with the academic side of the house and where there is a strong business case (marketing and brand awareness at schools looking to juice application pool) for sports success this is NOT the case at UC. It just isn't. This can (and has) frustrated coaches at Cal endlessly. See Sonny Dykes for a great example and ditto Martin. It just sets up tension from day one if someone is hired that doesn't "get it". Heck, Shocky1 doesn't get it with his *****ing about Martin's kid not getting a special treatment in the admissions process.
We MUST (IMO) hire a coach who doesn't chaff about that from day 1. Either because they have coached (or at least assisted) at a UC or because in the interview process (I would note with a NON UC'er in the AD chair) they get this.
It is really why I think Pasternack is the right choice (or at least lets see). Joe would NOT come in from day 1 frustrated. He has navigated that situation down at UCSB now for several years and as video boy knows his way around the Berkeley campus. Turner (who I don't like ) would also come in and be able to navigate things. But FAU is a school where Basketball success _IS_ important to the business case of raising the applicant pool and thus USN&W rankings.
BTW - I also don't think this is really a student athlete alumn thing either. Students see some of this but mostly as students. Far different and removed from the fact that at many schools the coach can call up a faculty member and get what they need for a player and where at Cal those phone calls are rarely made and if they are the coach quickly finds out who is boss.
Just asking the question....plenty of posts acting like he is there if Cal wants him...
Major Donors and those close to them have said it is his dream job. Family connections to the Bay Area. He lived here before.mbBear said:I would question if Pasternak sees a Cal move as his next best opportunity...is he holding out for a bigger pay day?socaltownie said:I really don't think many on this board really grasp how DIFFERENT UC is from the rest of the college athletic world. UCLA is really the outlier (and not that much except in those eras where you have VERY strong coaches (Chipster) or success (current hoops).bluesaxe said:eastcoastcal said:Love the steve nash idea btw (i just think it would jump start recruiting)KoreAmBear said:
Put on our search list every coach on here that makes less than $500K (or a number way less than what we would offer, as to incentivize them):Top 50 College Basketball Coaches Of The Year pic.twitter.com/bUO9tkXNA6
— Big Game Boomer (@BigGameBoomer) March 6, 2023
but a cursory glance at this list for coaches who are "poachable" and seem to be successful: to be clear, a bunch of these guys are going to have interest from better programs than us
Dusty May
Pat Kelsey
Paul Mills
Tod Kowalczyk
Amir Abdul-Rahim
Ryan Odom
Leon Rice
Brian Wardle
May ought to be a hot commodity but he'd be a huge upgrade in style of play, style of coaching, and overall approach. He's got a rep as a guy who is constantly learning as well as a great teacher. No West Coast connections and probably not a guy our fearless "leader" would ever pick but he seems like a good upside swing to me.
Whereas in most of college athletics the atthletic teams are co-equals (or more) with the academic side of the house and where there is a strong business case (marketing and brand awareness at schools looking to juice application pool) for sports success this is NOT the case at UC. It just isn't. This can (and has) frustrated coaches at Cal endlessly. See Sonny Dykes for a great example and ditto Martin. It just sets up tension from day one if someone is hired that doesn't "get it". Heck, Shocky1 doesn't get it with his *****ing about Martin's kid not getting a special treatment in the admissions process.
We MUST (IMO) hire a coach who doesn't chaff about that from day 1. Either because they have coached (or at least assisted) at a UC or because in the interview process (I would note with a NON UC'er in the AD chair) they get this.
It is really why I think Pasternack is the right choice (or at least lets see). Joe would NOT come in from day 1 frustrated. He has navigated that situation down at UCSB now for several years and as video boy knows his way around the Berkeley campus. Turner (who I don't like ) would also come in and be able to navigate things. But FAU is a school where Basketball success _IS_ important to the business case of raising the applicant pool and thus USN&W rankings.
BTW - I also don't think this is really a student athlete alumn thing either. Students see some of this but mostly as students. Far different and removed from the fact that at many schools the coach can call up a faculty member and get what they need for a player and where at Cal those phone calls are rarely made and if they are the coach quickly finds out who is boss.
Just asking the question....plenty of posts acting like he is there if Cal wants him...
But who knows. I am SURE that wtih Nike Gate largely closed with Miller behing exonerated by the NCAA he will get offers this year that might not have been forthcoming in the past. TypiCAl would be to miss.
No Rick Pitino, Iona??? C'monbluesaxe said:eastcoastcal said:Love the steve nash idea btw (i just think it would jump start recruiting)KoreAmBear said:
Put on our search list every coach on here that makes less than $500K (or a number way less than what we would offer, as to incentivize them):Top 50 College Basketball Coaches Of The Year pic.twitter.com/bUO9tkXNA6
— Big Game Boomer (@BigGameBoomer) March 6, 2023
but a cursory glance at this list for coaches who are "poachable" and seem to be successful: to be clear, a bunch of these guys are going to have interest from better programs than us
Dusty May
Pat Kelsey
Paul Mills
Tod Kowalczyk
Amir Abdul-Rahim
Ryan Odom
Leon Rice
Brian Wardle
May ought to be a hot commodity but he'd be a huge upgrade in style of play, style of coaching, and overall approach. He's got a rep as a guy who is constantly learning as well as a great teacher. No West Coast connections and probably not a guy our fearless "leader" would ever pick but he seems like a good upside swing to me.
are these the same "major donors" that put fox in place? If so, I'd be concernedsocaltownie said:Major Donors and those close to them have said it is his dream job. Family connections to the Bay Area. He lived here before.mbBear said:I would question if Pasternak sees a Cal move as his next best opportunity...is he holding out for a bigger pay day?socaltownie said:I really don't think many on this board really grasp how DIFFERENT UC is from the rest of the college athletic world. UCLA is really the outlier (and not that much except in those eras where you have VERY strong coaches (Chipster) or success (current hoops).bluesaxe said:eastcoastcal said:Love the steve nash idea btw (i just think it would jump start recruiting)KoreAmBear said:
Put on our search list every coach on here that makes less than $500K (or a number way less than what we would offer, as to incentivize them):Top 50 College Basketball Coaches Of The Year pic.twitter.com/bUO9tkXNA6
— Big Game Boomer (@BigGameBoomer) March 6, 2023
but a cursory glance at this list for coaches who are "poachable" and seem to be successful: to be clear, a bunch of these guys are going to have interest from better programs than us
Dusty May
Pat Kelsey
Paul Mills
Tod Kowalczyk
Amir Abdul-Rahim
Ryan Odom
Leon Rice
Brian Wardle
May ought to be a hot commodity but he'd be a huge upgrade in style of play, style of coaching, and overall approach. He's got a rep as a guy who is constantly learning as well as a great teacher. No West Coast connections and probably not a guy our fearless "leader" would ever pick but he seems like a good upside swing to me.
Whereas in most of college athletics the atthletic teams are co-equals (or more) with the academic side of the house and where there is a strong business case (marketing and brand awareness at schools looking to juice application pool) for sports success this is NOT the case at UC. It just isn't. This can (and has) frustrated coaches at Cal endlessly. See Sonny Dykes for a great example and ditto Martin. It just sets up tension from day one if someone is hired that doesn't "get it". Heck, Shocky1 doesn't get it with his *****ing about Martin's kid not getting a special treatment in the admissions process.
We MUST (IMO) hire a coach who doesn't chaff about that from day 1. Either because they have coached (or at least assisted) at a UC or because in the interview process (I would note with a NON UC'er in the AD chair) they get this.
It is really why I think Pasternack is the right choice (or at least lets see). Joe would NOT come in from day 1 frustrated. He has navigated that situation down at UCSB now for several years and as video boy knows his way around the Berkeley campus. Turner (who I don't like ) would also come in and be able to navigate things. But FAU is a school where Basketball success _IS_ important to the business case of raising the applicant pool and thus USN&W rankings.
BTW - I also don't think this is really a student athlete alumn thing either. Students see some of this but mostly as students. Far different and removed from the fact that at many schools the coach can call up a faculty member and get what they need for a player and where at Cal those phone calls are rarely made and if they are the coach quickly finds out who is boss.
Just asking the question....plenty of posts acting like he is there if Cal wants him...
But who knows. I am SURE that wtih Nike Gate largely closed with Miller behing exonerated by the NCAA he will get offers this year that might not have been forthcoming in the past. TypiCAl would be to miss.
Priest of the Patty Hearst Shrine
I would consider Mike Brey. He's done at Notre Dame, but has said he wants to continue coaching. Need a guy to get the program back on it's feet, understands the academic challenges from his time at Notre Dame.
“My tastes are simple; I am easily satisfied with the best.” - Winston Churchill
How about that guy over at Stanford? They beat a higher seed.
Shantay Legans?
Would you be less concerned to know it was the same major donors who were pissed off when Jones was hired and again when Fox was hired?cal83dls79 said:are these the same "major donors" that put fox in place? If so, I'd be concernedsocaltownie said:Major Donors and those close to them have said it is his dream job. Family connections to the Bay Area. He lived here before.mbBear said:I would question if Pasternak sees a Cal move as his next best opportunity...is he holding out for a bigger pay day?socaltownie said:I really don't think many on this board really grasp how DIFFERENT UC is from the rest of the college athletic world. UCLA is really the outlier (and not that much except in those eras where you have VERY strong coaches (Chipster) or success (current hoops).bluesaxe said:eastcoastcal said:Love the steve nash idea btw (i just think it would jump start recruiting)KoreAmBear said:
Put on our search list every coach on here that makes less than $500K (or a number way less than what we would offer, as to incentivize them):Top 50 College Basketball Coaches Of The Year pic.twitter.com/bUO9tkXNA6
— Big Game Boomer (@BigGameBoomer) March 6, 2023
but a cursory glance at this list for coaches who are "poachable" and seem to be successful: to be clear, a bunch of these guys are going to have interest from better programs than us
Dusty May
Pat Kelsey
Paul Mills
Tod Kowalczyk
Amir Abdul-Rahim
Ryan Odom
Leon Rice
Brian Wardle
May ought to be a hot commodity but he'd be a huge upgrade in style of play, style of coaching, and overall approach. He's got a rep as a guy who is constantly learning as well as a great teacher. No West Coast connections and probably not a guy our fearless "leader" would ever pick but he seems like a good upside swing to me.
Whereas in most of college athletics the atthletic teams are co-equals (or more) with the academic side of the house and where there is a strong business case (marketing and brand awareness at schools looking to juice application pool) for sports success this is NOT the case at UC. It just isn't. This can (and has) frustrated coaches at Cal endlessly. See Sonny Dykes for a great example and ditto Martin. It just sets up tension from day one if someone is hired that doesn't "get it". Heck, Shocky1 doesn't get it with his *****ing about Martin's kid not getting a special treatment in the admissions process.
We MUST (IMO) hire a coach who doesn't chaff about that from day 1. Either because they have coached (or at least assisted) at a UC or because in the interview process (I would note with a NON UC'er in the AD chair) they get this.
It is really why I think Pasternack is the right choice (or at least lets see). Joe would NOT come in from day 1 frustrated. He has navigated that situation down at UCSB now for several years and as video boy knows his way around the Berkeley campus. Turner (who I don't like ) would also come in and be able to navigate things. But FAU is a school where Basketball success _IS_ important to the business case of raising the applicant pool and thus USN&W rankings.
BTW - I also don't think this is really a student athlete alumn thing either. Students see some of this but mostly as students. Far different and removed from the fact that at many schools the coach can call up a faculty member and get what they need for a player and where at Cal those phone calls are rarely made and if they are the coach quickly finds out who is boss.
Just asking the question....plenty of posts acting like he is there if Cal wants him...
But who knows. I am SURE that wtih Nike Gate largely closed with Miller behing exonerated by the NCAA he will get offers this year that might not have been forthcoming in the past. TypiCAl would be to miss.
I'm not a big Pasternak fan, but I think there is good reason to think that he will stick around if successful.
Pasternak may not be a grand slam hire, but maybe a lead off double? When Fox was hired, I said the hire was a sacrifice fly in the bottom of the 9th with 0 out, a runner at third, down 5 runs, but it turned out to be Disco Demolition night and a forfeit by the home team. No matter who, I hope for a quality hire this time.
I'd say the Fox hire was a bunt but we missed and got hit in the groin.Cal8285 said:
Pasternak may not be a grand slam hire, but maybe a lead off double? When Fox was hired, I said the hire was a sacrifice fly in the bottom of the 9th with 0 out, a runner at third, down 5 runs, but it turned out to be Disco Demolition night and a forfeit by the home team. No matter who, I hope for a quality hire this time.
Any guesses on how long before a successor is name ?
Is JK in charge of making the next HC hiring choice?
Is JK in charge of making the next HC hiring choice?
Tell someone you love them and try to have a good day
Maybe a week unless he already has someone lined up. A nation wide-search comment probably means he doesn'tgoing4roses said:
Any guesses on how long before a successor is name ?
Is JK in charge of making the next HC hiring choice?
Go Bears!
How many times will he have to be hung up on?
going4roses said:
Any guesses on how long before a successor is name ?
Is JK in charge of making the next HC hiring choice?
2-3 weeks. The hire will likely come from a tournament team. The announcement will wait until our hire is eliminated.
cal83dls79 said:just saw Dusty May at the Market Street Cinema. Good show.KoreAmBear said:
Dusty May's teams excel in rebounding margin and 3pt FG %. That's one way to build a program without Mickey Dee AAs.
https://fausports.com/sports/mens-basketball/roster/coaches/dusty-may/509
Lmao.
Polodad said:going4roses said:
Any guesses on how long before a successor is name ?
Is JK in charge of making the next HC hiring choice?
2-3 weeks. The hire will likely come from a tournament team. The announcement will wait until our hire is eliminated.
Don't we wish. Did that happen before for us?
All 4 top seeds in the Big West advanced to the semis. Games on Espnu tomorrow night with three coaches mentioned often here in Bear Insider; Pasternack, Turner and Magpayo going at it tomorrow. Should be interesting. UCR looked impressive in their win over Davis. UCSB struggled but overcame a 10 point deficit with a big 2H to win by 10, and Irvine looked really solid in easy win over CSUB.
socaltownie said:I really don't think many on this board really grasp how DIFFERENT UC is from the rest of the college athletic world. UCLA is really the outlier (and not that much except in those eras where you have VERY strong coaches (Chipster) or success (current hoops).bluesaxe said:eastcoastcal said:Love the steve nash idea btw (i just think it would jump start recruiting)KoreAmBear said:
Put on our search list every coach on here that makes less than $500K (or a number way less than what we would offer, as to incentivize them):Top 50 College Basketball Coaches Of The Year pic.twitter.com/bUO9tkXNA6
— Big Game Boomer (@BigGameBoomer) March 6, 2023
but a cursory glance at this list for coaches who are "poachable" and seem to be successful: to be clear, a bunch of these guys are going to have interest from better programs than us
Dusty May
Pat Kelsey
Paul Mills
Tod Kowalczyk
Amir Abdul-Rahim
Ryan Odom
Leon Rice
Brian Wardle
May ought to be a hot commodity but he'd be a huge upgrade in style of play, style of coaching, and overall approach. He's got a rep as a guy who is constantly learning as well as a great teacher. No West Coast connections and probably not a guy our fearless "leader" would ever pick but he seems like a good upside swing to me.
Whereas in most of college athletics the atthletic teams are co-equals (or more) with the academic side of the house and where there is a strong business case (marketing and brand awareness at schools looking to juice application pool) for sports success this is NOT the case at UC. It just isn't. This can (and has) frustrated coaches at Cal endlessly. See Sonny Dykes for a great example and ditto Martin. It just sets up tension from day one if someone is hired that doesn't "get it". Heck, Shocky1 doesn't get it with his *****ing about Martin's kid not getting a special treatment in the admissions process.
We MUST (IMO) hire a coach who doesn't chaff about that from day 1. Either because they have coached (or at least assisted) at a UC or because in the interview process (I would note with a NON UC'er in the AD chair) they get this.
It is really why I think Pasternack is the right choice (or at least lets see). Joe would NOT come in from day 1 frustrated. He has navigated that situation down at UCSB now for several years and as video boy knows his way around the Berkeley campus. Turner (who I don't like ) would also come in and be able to navigate things. But FAU is a school where Basketball success _IS_ important to the business case of raising the applicant pool and thus USN&W rankings.
BTW - I also don't think this is really a student athlete alumn thing either. Students see some of this but mostly as students. Far different and removed from the fact that at many schools the coach can call up a faculty member and get what they need for a player and where at Cal those phone calls are rarely made and if they are the coach quickly finds out who is boss.
UC Riverside is a UC and Magpayo is a UC Santa Barbara grad and coached at Columbia which is even more slanted towards academics versus athletics than Cal.
Where is the HC that got passed up for jones ?
Tell someone you love them and try to have a good day
Losingnin Montana.going4roses said:
Where is the HC that got passed up for jones ?
Go Bears!
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in the spirit of full disclosure, he has been to the tournament twice, and never had a losing season in what, 9 years? (one season of .500)...oskidunker said:Losingnin Montana.going4roses said:
Where is the HC that got passed up for jones ?
But, if Cal missed on him, then so have a lot of other schools, unless he has turned down a lot of offers in his time in Montana...that's a good amount of time to not have moved on and up....
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