Hyder leaving

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Chunger89
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We definitely need to find a starting or backup PG in the portal now
HoopDreams
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makes sense for everyone

got his cal diploma

hope he is healthy now and can find the right spot for himself

Chunger89 said:

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We definitely need to find a starting or backup PG in the portal now
Big C
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Great-but-not-surprising that he's a graduating Golden Bear. I feel like, if he can get himself 100%, he could be a contributor on, say, a mid-major team.
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Big C said:


Great-but-not-surprising that he's a graduating Golden Bear. I feel like, if he can get himself 100%, he could be a contributor on, say, a mid-major team.
He seemed to be an academics first guy which is great. And he's getting a Cal degree just like a lot of us (yet had to grind it out in D1 athletics). It's a great accomplishment. Good luck to you Jarred.
eastcoastcal
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What happened to Obinna Anyanwu? He had offers from USC, Texas, Colorado, Georgia Tech, Miami, and Oklahoma coming out of high school. What happened?
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eastcoastcal said:

What happened to Obinna Anyanwu? He had offers from USC, Texas, Colorado, Georgia Tech, Miami, and Oklahoma coming out of high school. What happened?
I think he's athletic. Just raw. He actually was one of our better rebounders I thought. Fox took a bunch guys who were athletic, couldn't shoot, couldn't really create their own shot, etc. Think about it, a roster full of them.
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Anyanwu was, I believe, in a car accident of some sort, prior to his senior year of high school (after the offers). It was a multi-year recovery situation. Plus he is a tweener (a 4 in the body of a 3), plus he doesn't shoot very well. I like the way he battles, scraps and often annoys opponents.
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eastcoastcal said:

What happened to Obinna Anyanwu? He had offers from USC, Texas, Colorado, Georgia Tech, Miami, and Oklahoma coming out of high school. What happened?
Early bloomer lacking skills needed at his size. His path has been just as I expected. I don't think he had those offers when he committed to Cal.
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Great news for Hyder getting his Cal degree. From a hoops perspective…it is time to go our separate ways. Wish him the best at his next stop.
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oskidunker
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It was reported here that Hyder had given up basketball due to Chronic Injuries. I guess he changed his mind.
Go Bears!
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oskidunker said:

It was reported here that Hyder had given up basketball due to Chronic Injuries. I guess he changed his mind.
Many medical professionals consider Mark Fox to be a Chronic Injury.
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BeachedBear said:

oskidunker said:

It was reported here that Hyder had given up basketball due to Chronic Injuries. I guess he changed his mind.
Many medical professionals consider Mark Fox to be a Chronic Injury.
more a disease than an injury?
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Now that we have new coach, there is no need to bash the prior guy. Bad situation for him and is, now resolved.
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Deutsch said:

Now that we have new coach, there is no need to bash the prior guy. Bad situation for him and is, now resolved.
Maybe there's no need for you, for some of us it is therapeutic. It isn't like Fox is reading this board and getting hurt, and if, after the four-year trauma, it helps the mental health of some of us, what's wrong with it?
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I for one would post a lot more negative stuff about Fox if I thought he was reading it and getting hurt.
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Cal8285 said:

Deutsch said:

Now that we have new coach, there is no need to bash the prior guy. Bad situation for him and is, now resolved.
Maybe there's no need for you, for some of us it is therapeutic. It isn't like Fox is reading this board and getting hurt, and if, after the four-year trauma, it helps the mental health of some of us, what's wrong with it?


I don't know why people still feel the need to defend Fox and worry about his feelings. He reportedly drove good kids like Bradley and Kelly to the brink, to the point transferring "saved their lives" but deprived them of a Cal degree? He has $10 million of our money to consolidate himself with. Maybe start standing up for Cal players?
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calumnus said:

Cal8285 said:

Deutsch said:

Now that we have new coach, there is no need to bash the prior guy. Bad situation for him and is, now resolved.
Maybe there's no need for you, for some of us it is therapeutic. It isn't like Fox is reading this board and getting hurt, and if, after the four-year trauma, it helps the mental health of some of us, what's wrong with it?


I don't know why people still feel the need to defend Fox and worry about his feelings. He reportedly drove good kids like Bradley and Kelly to the brink, to the point transferring "saved their lives" but deprived them of a Cal degree? He has $10 million of our money to consolidate himself with. Maybe start standing up for Cal players?
Same. If people are not ok with Fox bashing on this site, I suggest they leave for a couple years. I mean, Cuonzo still gets heat on this board and that was 6 years ago and he got us a 4 seed in the tourney. Fox is the worst coach in program history. He's gonna catch hell here for a long time.
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Deutsch said:

Now that we have new coach, there is no need to bash the prior guy. Bad situation for him and is, now resolved.


Nah, **** Mark Fox. Worst coach ever. He should never be free of getting bashed on for the damage hes done to my beloved basketball program.

Lets go Madsen tho.
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BC Calfan said:

calumnus said:

Cal8285 said:

Deutsch said:

Now that we have new coach, there is no need to bash the prior guy. Bad situation for him and is, now resolved.
Maybe there's no need for you, for some of us it is therapeutic. It isn't like Fox is reading this board and getting hurt, and if, after the four-year trauma, it helps the mental health of some of us, what's wrong with it?


I don't know why people still feel the need to defend Fox and worry about his feelings. He reportedly drove good kids like Bradley and Kelly to the brink, to the point transferring "saved their lives" but deprived them of a Cal degree? He has $10 million of our money to consolidate himself with. Maybe start standing up for Cal players?
Same. If people are not ok with Fox bashing on this site, I suggest they leave for a couple years. I mean, Cuonzo still gets heat on this board and that was 6 years ago and he got us a 4 seed in the tourney. Fox is the worst coach in program history. He's gonna catch hell here for a long time.
I see a difference. Negative Cuanzo comments typically follow favorable comments. I don't see too many favorable Fox comments (for good reason), or Martin bashing out of the blue.
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Fox's tenure was almost criminal. Martin's was pretty awesome until it fizzled the last year. I don't think you can easily compare the two. Some want to attribute our current moment to Cuonzo (note the correct spelling of his name, folks- misspelling someone's name is a form of disrespect), but he was simply leaving for greener, less bureaucratically complex pastures.
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parentswerebears said:

Fox's tenure was almost criminal. Martin's was pretty awesome until it fizzled the last year. I don't think you can easily compare the two. Some want to attribute our current moment to Cuonzo (note the correct spelling of his name, folks- misspelling someone's name is a form of disrespect), but he was simply leaving for greener, less bureaucratically complex pastures.
Gonzo.
Go Bears!
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Hope you have a good day, oskidunker.
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Deutsch said:

Now that we have new coach, there is no need to bash the prior guy. Bad situation for him and is, now resolved.
Bad situation for him? Retread gets hired for too much money, produces no results but gets extended, and turns in the worst performance in history while not even bothering to try and engage the Cal community or do anything real to make better things happen. I mean, shame on Knowlton, but don't try to tell me all that money for nothing was rough on poor Fox.
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bluesaxe said:

Deutsch said:

Now that we have new coach, there is no need to bash the prior guy. Bad situation for him and is, now resolved.
Bad situation for him? Retread gets hired for too much money, produces no results but gets extended, and turns in the worst performance in history while not even bothering to try and engage the Cal community or do anything real to make better things happen. I mean, shame on Knowlton, but don't try to tell me all that money for nothing was rough on poor Fox.
I wish I could give this more stars. It was obvious Fox wasn't working out at end of year two, That's OK - sometimes things don't work. A seemingly OK hire can underperform. But years three and four ?!?! When dozens if not hundreds were literally screaming at Knowlton to do something. And he did nothing. I have not heard of a single person in support of Fox in the last two years.'

And Fox refusing to make any changes - when EVERYONE was screaming that this isn't working. Fox went into bunker mentality and apparently made our best players question their commitment to the game (much less Cal or their teammates). That's not incompetence. That is willful neglect, denial and borderline abuse.

**** NO! Mark Fox should be locked in a dank basement with a group of widows and orphans and recite out loud EVERY ****ING THING posted here on BI. And every time one of the widows or orphans cringes, he should hand them part of the $10,000,000 he cashed.
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oskidunker said:

parentswerebears said:

Fox's tenure was almost criminal. Martin's was pretty awesome until it fizzled the last year. I don't think you can easily compare the two. Some want to attribute our current moment to Cuonzo (note the correct spelling of his name, folks- misspelling someone's name is a form of disrespect), but he was simply leaving for greener, less bureaucratically complex pastures.
Gonzo.
dunker, ur basketball opinions r worthless

where's my parking spot?#
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eastcoastcal said:




Good luck to them.
eastcoastcal
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@Shocky could we get an updated roster scholly math post
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concernedparent said:

eastcoastcal said:




Good luck to them.
Hope they find a good place.
Go Bears!
parentswerebears
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I can't decide if this is good or bad for Cal. One way or the other, we now have a major roster overhaul on our hands. It will be interesting to see who gets picked up.
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I hope the best for the transfer outs but every one of these announcements is a relief.
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parentswerebears said:

I can't decide if this is good or bad for Cal. One way or the other, we now have a major roster overhaul on our hands. It will be interesting to see who gets picked up.
Maybe they decided after meeting with Madsen and decided they might get more opportunity and playing time elsewhere.your right, it will be interesting to see what the roster will be like. I think Madsen will improve the roster.

I wonder about Askew. I imagine it would take an exception for him to transfer again. I wonder what role Madsen has in mind for him. Maybe as a shooting guard.
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parentswerebears said:

I can't decide if this is good or bad for Cal. One way or the other, we now have a major roster overhaul on our hands. It will be interesting to see who gets picked up.
IMO this is a huge blessing. Not giving anything away, but I believe you will soon see Madsen has the capability of pulling in recruits that are way over the level of Fox. The more roster flexibility, the better. Every time one of these opens, we're likely upgrading.
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eastcoastcal said:

parentswerebears said:

I can't decide if this is good or bad for Cal. One way or the other, we now have a major roster overhaul on our hands. It will be interesting to see who gets picked up.
IMO this is a huge blessing. Not giving anything away, but I believe you will soon see Madsen has the capability of pulling in recruits that are way over the level of Fox. The more roster flexibility, the better. Every time one of these opens, we're likely upgrading.
I think only 4 scholarship players left plus two new players. More leaving than when Fox was hired.
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