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Johnfox
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AZ favored by 17 points. Haven't won against a ranked opponent on the road in 7 years. Feels like this game is winnable for some reason.
75bear
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Well, we got smoked in the first match up, so it would be a huge confidence boost to make a game of it.
HoopDreams
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the game before we played AZ the first time they got smoked by stanford

this time the game before they lost to OSU

I'm not optimistic but think we will play better than the first game even though it's on the road
bearsandgiants
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Really comes down to making free throws and half of the ridiculous threes we chuck up.
Richmondbear2
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We lost on 12/29. Arizona lost to Stanford 12/31
bearister
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ESPN has spread up to 19.5.


I'm going All In Heavy Cheese from Goff winnings on Bears to cover.
For those that bet their 401(k) on Goff to cover against the Niners and cleaned up…just bet half your winnings on this.

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ducky23
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bearister said:

ESPN has spread up to 19.5.


I'm going All In Heavy Cheese from Goff winnings on Bears to cover.
For those that bet their 401(k) on Goff to cover against the Niners and cleaned up…just bet half your winnings on this.




I have a rule to never bet on the bears. But 19.5? Does Vegas know something about Tyson that we don't know?
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ducky23 said:

bearister said:

ESPN has spread up to 19.5.


I'm going All In Heavy Cheese from Goff winnings on Bears to cover.
For those that bet their 401(k) on Goff to cover against the Niners and cleaned up…just bet half your winnings on this.




I have a rule to never bet on the bears. But 19.5? Does Vegas know something about Tyson that we don't know?


Ok, I'm in!!!
Johnfox
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Tyson is playing. Vegas probably just took a look at our last match against Arizona @ Haas.
ducky23
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So Arizona in league play at home has done the following

Beat Colorado by 47
Beat Utah by 19
Beat usc by 15
Beat ucla by 6

My impression of Arizona is that they run extremely hot and cold. They can destroy people, but then have inexplicable losses like losing at osu/wsu/Stan or only beating ucla by 6 at home

I don't know….

I think there's some value at cal +19.5 but I'm not sure I'd break the bank
Johnfox
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UCLA nearly beat Arizona thanks to Mick Cronin getting T'd up. As long as we play stout defense and good offense, McKale Center may get real quiet.
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ducky23 said:

So Arizona in league play at home has done the following

Beat Colorado by 47
Beat Utah by 19
Beat usc by 15
Beat ucla by 6

My impression of Arizona is that they run extremely hot and cold. They can destroy people, but then have inexplicable losses like losing at osu/wsu/Stan or only beating ucla by 6 at home

I don't know….

I think there's some value at cal +19.5 but I'm not sure I'd break the bank

The odds are usually set initially using models similar to Sagarin or Ken Pom. Then adjusted based on the action.

Due to Cal not having Tyson and Kennedy initially, then taking awhile to gel with them, Cal is underrated in the statistical models. Ken Pom shows Arizona by 21. The spread is down to 19. Could we lose by more? Of course. But I think there is about a 30% to 40% chance of that. Thus, objectively I think Cal plus 19 is a great bet (Ie better than 50% chance it pays off).
bearister
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Bears were struggling a lot in December and they lost 100-81. I don't remember what the spread was on that game, but if you put tonight's spread on that game, Bears cover by .5.

We had 6 players in double figures last game. Bears are scoring psychotics…a bunch of 6'7 guys ball handlin', slashin' to the hole, shootin' the 3 rock, Euro steppin', monster boardin''and hard hoppin' to apocalyptic dunkin'!

Get a loan if you have to, buy mounds of chips and push them forward on Blue & Gold!
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bearsandgiants
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I thought WE had a big man. Damn! Arizona looks like an nba team. Holy ***** And we aren't rebounding. Or shooting. Ugh
Golden One
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The blowout is under way. This is ugly already.
bearister
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It is never a good sign when a pre game discussion thread lazily becomes a game thread by default.
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Golden One said:

The blowout is under way. This is ugly already.
Golden One, I know you're a fatalist, but even for you this is early to check out.

So much time remaining, we got lots of fight left.
bearsandgiants
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They look like crap. Not prepared. Bunch of guys looking for someone to lead them. This is gross.
Golden One
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I'm afraid it's going to take a lot more than fight. Our guys always fight, but Arizona is just so much more talented. We don't belong on the same court as them, especially when the court is McKale.
bearister
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How clueless is Ted Robinson to think it is a significant event that a player recruited by Mark Fox decided to stay after a coaching change was made?

That is equivalent to being surprised that a guy who had reserved a Camry from Avis at the airport decided to still honor the rental agreement even though he was told by the counter agent that they are out of Camrys but Avis will give him a BMW for the same price.
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bearsandgiants
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This is the third game in a row they've mispronounced Celestine. Or did he change it back? If they're just not reading the media guide, that's some lazy stuff, even for Ted Robinson.
bearsandgiants
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Is this Cone's last year?
75bear
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bearsandgiants said:

This is the third game in a row they've mispronounced Celestine. Or did he change it back? If they're just not reading the media guide, that's some lazy stuff, even for Ted Robinson.
I think we just need to come up with a snazzy nickname for Celestine, problem solved.
OdontoBear66
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This is ugly. Need things to improve. Playing against superior talent and not hanging.
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bearsandgiants said:

Is this Cone's last year?


Yes, his only year. Painful to watch
Go Bears!
Johnfox
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Can we PLEASE get Cone and Tyson going?
JimSox
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Well Cone finally scored. Tyson not yet.
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Johnfox said:

Can we PLEASE get Cone and Tyson going?


I dont think Tyson is 100%
Go Bears!
Johnfox
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I feel like Arizona is the only team we are outmatched. Whereas Jerod Haase has Tommy Lloyd's number (Stanford V Arizona games always go down to the wire). Wonder how Stanford always succeeds against them.
bearister
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The blue hairs of Tucson, that make up the majority of the season ticket holders at McKale Center, are actually rattling their jewelry in approval they are so impressed with this clownstomping.

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barsad
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I missed the first 18 min and just flipped it on to find us down by 22. Wth? Did we forget to put on our scoring shoes? 30 points per half isn't going to get it done.
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barsad said:

I missed the first 18 min and just flipped it on to find us down by 22. Wth? Did we forget to put on our scoring shoes? 30 points per half isn't going to get it done.


Only down 20 not 22!!
But we only have 28, not 30.
bearister
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barsad said:

I missed the first 18 min and just flipped it on to find us down by 22. Wth? Did we forget to put on our scoring shoes? 30 points per half isn't going to get it done.


We came back from 20 to clip the Buffs, so never say never….but returning to the real world, I'm counting on Bears to at least cover the 19.5 in garbage time.

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