I would, given where we were.

Oregon , oregon State and Wsu have been in it, in the past. I understand you lose money, however. Not sure if Knowlton would do it.

For me, it's what the players want. If they want to play a bit longer I'm fine with it. And Knowlton should be too

In football you want a minor bowl game for the practice time for your returning players. In basketball?

Chabbear said:

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In football you want a minor bowl game for the practice time for your returning players. In basketball?

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For something to do

I think we have to get to .500

If we do we will be a MUCH improved team, it will be great to have this team keep playing as there is no next year and we could easily win the thing,

Chabbear said:

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In football you want a minor bowl game for the practice time for your returning players. In basketball?

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Why not keep playing? Another obvious difference in the two is the injury factor.

We don't need a 500 record if we have the top 2 NET ranking after NCAA teams

It's possible we can get there if some Pac12 teams above us are invited to ncaa

"NIT Changes:

For the 2024 NIT, conference regular season champions that do not win their conference tournament or are not otherwise selected to the NCAA Division I Men's Basketball Championship will not receive an automatic bid to the NIT. Instead, the NIT will guarantee two teams (based on the NET rankings) from each of six conferences (Atlantic Coast, Big East, Big Ten, Big 12, Pac-12 and Southeastern). The top two teams in the NET rankings not qualifying for the NCAA men's basketball tournament from each conference, regardless of won-loss record, will be selected. Additionally, the 12 teams automatically selected will be guaranteed the opportunity to host a game in the first round of the NIT. "

calumnus said:

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I think we have to get to .500

If we do we will be a MUCH improved team, it will be great to have this team keep playing as there is no next year and we could easily win the thing,

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Hell yea. I want another NIT championship!

HoopDreams said:

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We don't need a 500 record if we have the top 2 NET ranking after NCAA teams

It's possible we can get there if some Pac12 teams above us are invited to ncaa

"NIT Changes:

For the 2024 NIT, conference regular season champions that do not win their conference tournament or are not otherwise selected to the NCAA Division I Men's Basketball Championship will not receive an automatic bid to the NIT. Instead, the NIT will guarantee two teams (based on the NET rankings) from each of six conferences (Atlantic Coast, Big East, Big Ten, Big 12, Pac-12 and Southeastern). The top two teams in the NET rankings not qualifying for the NCAA men's basketball tournament from each conference, regardless of won-loss record, will be selected. Additionally, the 12 teams automatically selected will be guaranteed the opportunity to host a game in the first round of the NIT. "

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There's no chance of that many Pac-12 teams being invited to the NCAAs.

It's possible that only Arizona and Wazzu get in. Either CU or UU might make it if they win nearly all of their remaining games. Any other team would have to win the Pac-12 tournament to get in. Even *if* by some weird set of circumstances both CU and UU were invited -and- a team outside the top four won the Pac-12 tournament, that's just five. Even under that very unlikely scenario, only the #6 and #7 Pac teams would be selected for the NIT. More likely, those two NIT picks will go to Oregon and either CU or UU, or to both CU and UU if neither is selected for the NCAA field.

Here are the NET rankings of Pac-12 teams, as of Monday afternoon:

3 Arizona
31 Washington St.
42 Colorado
50 Utah
61 Oregon
72 Washington
103 Stanford
105 UCLA
108 USC
120 California
135 Arizona St.
173 Oregon St.

Cbi has different rules

BearSD said:

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HoopDreams said:

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We don't need a 500 record if we have the top 2 NET ranking after NCAA teams

It's possible we can get there if some Pac12 teams above us are invited to ncaa

"NIT Changes:

For the 2024 NIT, conference regular season champions that do not win their conference tournament or are not otherwise selected to the NCAA Division I Men's Basketball Championship will not receive an automatic bid to the NIT. Instead, the NIT will guarantee two teams (based on the NET rankings) from each of six conferences (Atlantic Coast, Big East, Big Ten, Big 12, Pac-12 and Southeastern). The top two teams in the NET rankings not qualifying for the NCAA men's basketball tournament from each conference, regardless of won-loss record, will be selected. Additionally, the 12 teams automatically selected will be guaranteed the opportunity to host a game in the first round of the NIT. "

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There's no chance of that many Pac-12 teams being invited to the NCAAs.

It's possible that only Arizona and Wazzu get in. Either CU or UU might make it if they win nearly all of their remaining games. Any other team would have to win the Pac-12 tournament to get in. Even *if* by some weird set of circumstances both CU and UU were invited -and- a team outside the top four won the Pac-12 tournament, that's just five. Even under that very unlikely scenario, only the #6 and #7 Pac teams would be selected for the NIT. More likely, those two NIT picks will go to Oregon and either CU or UU, or to both CU and UU if neither is selected for the NCAA field.

Here are the NET rankings of Pac-12 teams, as of Monday afternoon:

3 Arizona
31 Washington St.
42 Colorado
50 Utah
61 Oregon
72 Washington
103 Stanford
105 UCLA
108 USC
120 California
135 Arizona St.
173 Oregon St.

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thanks for posting the current net rankings. I think you're right. Our OOC home losses basically killed our net.

Still, we play 4 of those teams ahead of us so there is a chance. Unfortunately, we win on the road against a Quad 1 team and lose on the road to a Quad 1 team, and our Net still dropped?!!??

At least with the changed NIT rules we don't have to worry about getting to 500.

HoopDreams said:

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BearSD said:

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HoopDreams said:

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We don't need a 500 record if we have the top 2 NET ranking after NCAA teams

It's possible we can get there if some Pac12 teams above us are invited to ncaa

"NIT Changes:

For the 2024 NIT, conference regular season champions that do not win their conference tournament or are not otherwise selected to the NCAA Division I Men's Basketball Championship will not receive an automatic bid to the NIT. Instead, the NIT will guarantee two teams (based on the NET rankings) from each of six conferences (Atlantic Coast, Big East, Big Ten, Big 12, Pac-12 and Southeastern). The top two teams in the NET rankings not qualifying for the NCAA men's basketball tournament from each conference, regardless of won-loss record, will be selected. Additionally, the 12 teams automatically selected will be guaranteed the opportunity to host a game in the first round of the NIT. "

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There's no chance of that many Pac-12 teams being invited to the NCAAs.

It's possible that only Arizona and Wazzu get in. Either CU or UU might make it if they win nearly all of their remaining games. Any other team would have to win the Pac-12 tournament to get in. Even *if* by some weird set of circumstances both CU and UU were invited -and- a team outside the top four won the Pac-12 tournament, that's just five. Even under that very unlikely scenario, only the #6 and #7 Pac teams would be selected for the NIT. More likely, those two NIT picks will go to Oregon and either CU or UU, or to both CU and UU if neither is selected for the NCAA field.

Here are the NET rankings of Pac-12 teams, as of Monday afternoon:

3 Arizona
31 Washington St.
42 Colorado
50 Utah
61 Oregon
72 Washington
103 Stanford
105 UCLA
108 USC
120 California
135 Arizona St.
173 Oregon St.

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thanks for posting the current net rankings. I think you're right. Our OOC home losses basically killed our net.

Still, we play 4 of those teams ahead of us so there is a chance. Unfortunately, we win on the road against a Quad 1 team and lose on the road to a Quad 1 team, and our Net still dropped?!!??

At least with the changed NIT rules we don't have to worry about getting to 500.

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Southern Indiana was selected for the CBI last year with a 16-16 record. No one with a losing record was selected.not hopefull

HoopDreams said:

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BearSD said:

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thanks for posting the current net rankings. I think you're right. Our OOC home losses basically killed our net.

Still, we play 4 of those teams ahead of us so there is a chance. Unfortunately, we win on the road against a Quad 1 team and lose on the road to a Quad 1 team, and our Net still dropped?!!??

At least with the changed NIT rules we don't have to worry about getting to 500.

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That quad 1 win (vs. #72) only raised Cal's quad 1 record to 1-6. And you are correct about the bad losses (1-3 vs. quad 4 teams) dragging down the NET ranking. USC at #108 has about the same overall record, and they are 0-6 vs. quad 1, but 4-0 vs. quad 4.

HoopDreams said:

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BearSD said:

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HoopDreams said:

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We don't need a 500 record if we have the top 2 NET ranking after NCAA teams

It's possible we can get there if some Pac12 teams above us are invited to ncaa

"NIT Changes:

For the 2024 NIT, conference regular season champions that do not win their conference tournament or are not otherwise selected to the NCAA Division I Men's Basketball Championship will not receive an automatic bid to the NIT. Instead, the NIT will guarantee two teams (based on the NET rankings) from each of six conferences (Atlantic Coast, Big East, Big Ten, Big 12, Pac-12 and Southeastern). The top two teams in the NET rankings not qualifying for the NCAA men's basketball tournament from each conference, regardless of won-loss record, will be selected. Additionally, the 12 teams automatically selected will be guaranteed the opportunity to host a game in the first round of the NIT. "

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There's no chance of that many Pac-12 teams being invited to the NCAAs.

It's possible that only Arizona and Wazzu get in. Either CU or UU might make it if they win nearly all of their remaining games. Any other team would have to win the Pac-12 tournament to get in. Even *if* by some weird set of circumstances both CU and UU were invited -and- a team outside the top four won the Pac-12 tournament, that's just five. Even under that very unlikely scenario, only the #6 and #7 Pac teams would be selected for the NIT. More likely, those two NIT picks will go to Oregon and either CU or UU, or to both CU and UU if neither is selected for the NCAA field.

Here are the NET rankings of Pac-12 teams, as of Monday afternoon:

3 Arizona
31 Washington St.
42 Colorado
50 Utah
61 Oregon
72 Washington
103 Stanford
105 UCLA
108 USC
120 California
135 Arizona St.
173 Oregon St.

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thanks for posting the current net rankings. I think you're right. Our OOC home losses basically killed our net.

Still, we play 4 of those teams ahead of us so there is a chance. Unfortunately, we win on the road against a Quad 1 team and lose on the road to a Quad 1 team, and our Net still dropped?!!??

At least with the changed NIT rules we don't have to worry about getting to 500.

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We haven't been to the NIt in awhile and I know the rules have kinda changed in the last few years. So does anyone know what it takes nowadays to get into the NIT? Cause I have no idea. Are we even on the bubble right now?

ducky23 said:

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HoopDreams said:

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BearSD said:

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HoopDreams said:

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We don't need a 500 record if we have the top 2 NET ranking after NCAA teams

It's possible we can get there if some Pac12 teams above us are invited to ncaa

"NIT Changes:

For the 2024 NIT, conference regular season champions that do not win their conference tournament or are not otherwise selected to the NCAA Division I Men's Basketball Championship will not receive an automatic bid to the NIT. Instead, the NIT will guarantee two teams (based on the NET rankings) from each of six conferences (Atlantic Coast, Big East, Big Ten, Big 12, Pac-12 and Southeastern). The top two teams in the NET rankings not qualifying for the NCAA men's basketball tournament from each conference, regardless of won-loss record, will be selected. Additionally, the 12 teams automatically selected will be guaranteed the opportunity to host a game in the first round of the NIT. "

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There's no chance of that many Pac-12 teams being invited to the NCAAs.

It's possible that only Arizona and Wazzu get in. Either CU or UU might make it if they win nearly all of their remaining games. Any other team would have to win the Pac-12 tournament to get in. Even *if* by some weird set of circumstances both CU and UU were invited -and- a team outside the top four won the Pac-12 tournament, that's just five. Even under that very unlikely scenario, only the #6 and #7 Pac teams would be selected for the NIT. More likely, those two NIT picks will go to Oregon and either CU or UU, or to both CU and UU if neither is selected for the NCAA field.

Here are the NET rankings of Pac-12 teams, as of Monday afternoon:

3 Arizona
31 Washington St.
42 Colorado
50 Utah
61 Oregon
72 Washington
103 Stanford
105 UCLA
108 USC
120 California
135 Arizona St.
173 Oregon St.

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thanks for posting the current net rankings. I think you're right. Our OOC home losses basically killed our net.

Still, we play 4 of those teams ahead of us so there is a chance. Unfortunately, we win on the road against a Quad 1 team and lose on the road to a Quad 1 team, and our Net still dropped?!!??

At least with the changed NIT rules we don't have to worry about getting to 500.

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We haven't been to the NIt in awhile and I know the rules have kinda changed in the last few years. So does anyone know what it takes nowadays to get into the NIT? Cause I have no idea. Are we even on the bubble right now?

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seems like the clearest path to the NIT starting this year is to be in a power conference and have the top 2 Nets of the rest of the conference excluding NCAA teams.

If the team doesn't qualify under that condition, be one of the highest-ranked teams in the NCAA of the remaining teams

Basically, our only shots for any tournament is win out the rest of the season (CBI), or win out the Pac 12 tourney for a March Madness bid. Sucks that our losses to Pacific and Montana State killed our NIT chances + other tournament chances.

Johnfox said:

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Basically, our only shots for any tournament is win out the rest of the season (CBI), or win out the Pac 12 tourney for a March Madness bid. Sucks that our losses to Pacific and Montana State killed our NIT chances + other tournament chances.

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If we at least finish .500 doesn't NIT factor in possible gate revenue and TV revenue? My guess is that this year they would figure that after several horrible seasons, a Cal NIT game might bring in a halfway decent attendance. After all, as usual its all about $$$.

oskidunker said:

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HoopDreams said:

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BearSD said:

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HoopDreams said:

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We don't need a 500 record if we have the top 2 NET ranking after NCAA teams

It's possible we can get there if some Pac12 teams above us are invited to ncaa

"NIT Changes:

For the 2024 NIT, conference regular season champions that do not win their conference tournament or are not otherwise selected to the NCAA Division I Men's Basketball Championship will not receive an automatic bid to the NIT. Instead, the NIT will guarantee two teams (based on the NET rankings) from each of six conferences (Atlantic Coast, Big East, Big Ten, Big 12, Pac-12 and Southeastern). The top two teams in the NET rankings not qualifying for the NCAA men's basketball tournament from each conference, regardless of won-loss record, will be selected. Additionally, the 12 teams automatically selected will be guaranteed the opportunity to host a game in the first round of the NIT. "

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There's no chance of that many Pac-12 teams being invited to the NCAAs.

It's possible that only Arizona and Wazzu get in. Either CU or UU might make it if they win nearly all of their remaining games. Any other team would have to win the Pac-12 tournament to get in. Even *if* by some weird set of circumstances both CU and UU were invited -and- a team outside the top four won the Pac-12 tournament, that's just five. Even under that very unlikely scenario, only the #6 and #7 Pac teams would be selected for the NIT. More likely, those two NIT picks will go to Oregon and either CU or UU, or to both CU and UU if neither is selected for the NCAA field.

Here are the NET rankings of Pac-12 teams, as of Monday afternoon:

3 Arizona
31 Washington St.
42 Colorado
50 Utah
61 Oregon
72 Washington
103 Stanford
105 UCLA
108 USC
120 California
135 Arizona St.
173 Oregon St.

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thanks for posting the current net rankings. I think you're right. Our OOC home losses basically killed our net.

Still, we play 4 of those teams ahead of us so there is a chance. Unfortunately, we win on the road against a Quad 1 team and lose on the road to a Quad 1 team, and our Net still dropped?!!??

At least with the changed NIT rules we don't have to worry about getting to 500.

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Southern Indiana was selected for the CBI last year with a 16-16 record. No one with a losing record was selected.not hopefull

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Exactly. We need to get to .500 for the CBI which means we pretty much need to win out the remaining 5 games of the regular season, or if we lose one, win two games in the conference tournament.

However, if we can do that, let's just win the PAC-12 Tournament and go to the NCAA Tournament as "Pac-12 Champ" and the automatic qualifier.

And yes, we have a better chance of either of those things happening than going to the NIT. If we beat Oregon, Colorado, and Utah we are going to burst their bubbles sending two them to the NIT for sure.

If we win 3 of the remaining 5 regular season conference games, we'll be 10-10 in the conference. The if we win a couple of games in the PAC-12 Tournament, then we'll finish 12-11 in the PAC-12. That would be the only way we deserve to be considered for any kind of post season. Otherwise, with a losing conference record and losing overall record, forget about it.

Go Bears!

calbear80 said:

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If we win 3 of the remaining 5 regular season conference games, we'll be 10-10 in the conference. The if we win a couple of games in the PAC-12 Tournament, then we'll finish 12-11 in the PAC-12. That would be the only way we deserve to be considered for any kind of post season. Otherwise, with a losing conference record and losing overall record, forget about it.

Go Bears!

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Enjoy every game left. There will be no post season, in my opinion. Is the Cit still in business?

oskidunker said:

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calbear80 said:

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If we win 3 of the remaining 5 regular season conference games, we'll be 10-10 in the conference. The if we win a couple of games in the PAC-12 Tournament, then we'll finish 12-11 in the PAC-12. That would be the only way we deserve to be considered for any kind of post season. Otherwise, with a losing conference record and losing overall record, forget about it.

Go Bears!

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Enjoy every game left. There will be no post season, in my opinion. Is the Cit still in business?

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PAC-12 Tournament is our postseason. Win or go home. Keep winning and we are National Champions.

oskidunker said:

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Enjoy every game left. There will be no post season, in my opinion. Is the Cit still in business?

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Yes, but we'd have to change our name to Concordia U.
https://www.cune.edu/athletics/hosted-tournaments-and-meets/concordia-invitational-tournament

I'm not measuring this season on any post-season play, but by quality wins and how we recruit for 24-25. We already have wins to be proud of, Madsen's done his job in the W column. The jury is out on the recruitment class and portal fishing derby.

calumnus said:

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oskidunker said:

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calbear80 said:

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If we win 3 of the remaining 5 regular season conference games, we'll be 10-10 in the conference. The if we win a couple of games in the PAC-12 Tournament, then we'll finish 12-11 in the PAC-12. That would be the only way we deserve to be considered for any kind of post season. Otherwise, with a losing conference record and losing overall record, forget about it.

Go Bears!

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Enjoy every game left. There will be no post season, in my opinion. Is the Cit still in business?

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PAC-12 Tournament is our postseason. Win or go home. Keep winning and we are National Champions.

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Sometimes simplicity is the best approach!