NEWS: Vanderbilt transfer big man Lee Dort has committed to Cal, source tells @On3sports.
— Joe Tipton (@TiptonEdits) April 8, 2024
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Seriously? This is what we are doing now?Johnfox said:NEWS: Vanderbilt transfer big man Lee Dort has committed to Cal, source tells @On3sports.
— Joe Tipton (@TiptonEdits) April 8, 2024
Former four-star recruit. https://t.co/LherOQcvKN pic.twitter.com/LShqlzjSYG
Lee Dort has committed to Cal! Looks like more of a depth piece that may contend for a starting job.
Beyond stats, this is all I could find in terms of performance from Vandy sourcesstu said:
https://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/ncaab/2023/11/26/vanderbilt-suspends-forward-lee-dort-after-arrest-for-felony-aggravated-assault/71713939007/
This is strangely similar to Jabari Bird's case.
I was hoping Cal would only recruit players this year that did not have to go through pre-trial diversion programs. Maybe next year.anieves said:
This is the most recent story I see on the issue. Says he was going through a pre-trial diversion program and case was going to be dismissed.
https://www.tennessean.com/story/sports/college/vanderbilt/2024/01/11/lee-dort-arrest-vanderbilt-basketball-suspension/72111118007/
Oakbear said:
"I was hoping Cal would only recruit players this year that did not have to go through pre-trial diversion programs. Maybe next year."
have to balance the criminal acts against the reduction in NIL required LOL
that said, given the "me too" movement, I no longer assume that the guy is the bad person, more open to the woman is exaggerating or ???
oskidunker said:Oakbear said:
"I was hoping Cal would only recruit players this year that did not have to go through pre-trial diversion programs. Maybe next year."
have to balance the criminal acts against the reduction in NIL required LOL
that said, given the "me too" movement, I no longer assume that the guy is the bad person, more open to the woman is exaggerating or ???
Stats are more concerning
That's what you got out of it?Oakbear said:
that said, given the "me too" movement, I no longer assume that the guy is the bad person, more open to the woman is exaggerating or ???
SMH at the last statement, and smh at the trivializing responses of some here that make it seem like they wouldn't care even if they knew he was guilty. I hope that is not what anyone means.Oakbear said:
"I was hoping Cal would only recruit players this year that did not have to go through pre-trial diversion programs. Maybe next year."
have to balance the criminal acts against the reduction in NIL required LOL
that said, given the "me too" movement, I no longer assume that the guy is the bad person, more open to the woman is exaggerating or ???
Obviously, that depends on who else we get. If we don't pull in any other centers, then he seems to be the leader for the role. I would assume this did not end our center recruiting.Johnfox said:
Is dort going to be our starting center or backup? He has a lot of potential, but it hasn't been proved yet.
Frankly, I don't want players like this representing our program. It's made even more puzzling because he's done absolutely nothing in two years of college ball. Like last year he played SEVEN minutes in one game prior to his suspension. He was a deep bench player for a team that was WORSE than us last year.BearlyCareAnymore said:SMH at the last statement, and smh at the trivializing responses of some here that make it seem like they wouldn't care even if they knew he was guilty. I hope that is not what anyone means.Oakbear said:
"I was hoping Cal would only recruit players this year that did not have to go through pre-trial diversion programs. Maybe next year."
have to balance the criminal acts against the reduction in NIL required LOL
that said, given the "me too" movement, I no longer assume that the guy is the bad person, more open to the woman is exaggerating or ???
IMO, this is a bad move. 1. This is a significant legal risk. If he does anything similar at Cal, Cal is going to get sued because they knew his alleged history when they brought him in. 2. I don't think the publicity is worth it. 3. If he got NIL, there is a good chance that some are going to shy away from donating if they think this is where their money might go.
yes, part of it, people stating that someone did something to them gets attention and some people crave the attention so make crap up, or if someone irritates you, you make up a story.. it happens, as I noted, I used to just assume the man did it (I know most guys are pigs), but now don't just assume it any longerconcernedparent said:That's what you got out of it?Oakbear said:
that said, given the "me too" movement, I no longer assume that the guy is the bad person, more open to the woman is exaggerating or ???
2 rebounds in 7 minutes isn't bad.parentswerebears said:oskidunker said:Oakbear said:
"I was hoping Cal would only recruit players this year that did not have to go through pre-trial diversion programs. Maybe next year."
have to balance the criminal acts against the reduction in NIL required LOL
that said, given the "me too" movement, I no longer assume that the guy is the bad person, more open to the woman is exaggerating or ???
Stats are more concerning
I have to agree. All I see in his stats is a big body- not points, not rebounds. Maybe he has developed his game a bit since he last played.
I hope the next announcement is a little less underwhelming.
That was due to an injury prior to the game he played 7 minutes.concernedparent said:Frankly, I don't want players like this representing our program. It's made even more puzzling because he's done absolutely nothing in two years of college ball. Like last year he played SEVEN minutes in one game prior to his suspension. He was a deep bench player for a team that was WORSE than us last year.BearlyCareAnymore said:SMH at the last statement, and smh at the trivializing responses of some here that make it seem like they wouldn't care even if they knew he was guilty. I hope that is not what anyone means.Oakbear said:
"I was hoping Cal would only recruit players this year that did not have to go through pre-trial diversion programs. Maybe next year."
have to balance the criminal acts against the reduction in NIL required LOL
that said, given the "me too" movement, I no longer assume that the guy is the bad person, more open to the woman is exaggerating or ???
IMO, this is a bad move. 1. This is a significant legal risk. If he does anything similar at Cal, Cal is going to get sued because they knew his alleged history when they brought him in. 2. I don't think the publicity is worth it. 3. If he got NIL, there is a good chance that some are going to shy away from donating if they think this is where their money might go.
I understand he was hurt prior to the game. The emphasis is on the seven. He only earned seven minutes in a game for one of the worst P5 programs last year. Do you think any real contributor only plays seven minutes in a game even after coming back from injury?Civil Bear said:That was due to an injury prior to the game he played 7 minutes.concernedparent said:Frankly, I don't want players like this representing our program. It's made even more puzzling because he's done absolutely nothing in two years of college ball. Like last year he played SEVEN minutes in one game prior to his suspension. He was a deep bench player for a team that was WORSE than us last year.BearlyCareAnymore said:SMH at the last statement, and smh at the trivializing responses of some here that make it seem like they wouldn't care even if they knew he was guilty. I hope that is not what anyone means.Oakbear said:
"I was hoping Cal would only recruit players this year that did not have to go through pre-trial diversion programs. Maybe next year."
have to balance the criminal acts against the reduction in NIL required LOL
that said, given the "me too" movement, I no longer assume that the guy is the bad person, more open to the woman is exaggerating or ???
IMO, this is a bad move. 1. This is a significant legal risk. If he does anything similar at Cal, Cal is going to get sued because they knew his alleged history when they brought him in. 2. I don't think the publicity is worth it. 3. If he got NIL, there is a good chance that some are going to shy away from donating if they think this is where their money might go.
Johnfox said:
Is dort going to be our starting center or backup? He has a lot of potential, but it hasn't been proved yet.
concernedparent said:I understand he was hurt prior to the game. The emphasis is on the seven. He only earned seven minutes in a game for one of the worst P5 programs last year. Do you think any real contributor only plays seven minutes in a game even after coming back from injury?Civil Bear said:That was due to an injury prior to the game he played 7 minutes.concernedparent said:Frankly, I don't want players like this representing our program. It's made even more puzzling because he's done absolutely nothing in two years of college ball. Like last year he played SEVEN minutes in one game prior to his suspension. He was a deep bench player for a team that was WORSE than us last year.BearlyCareAnymore said:SMH at the last statement, and smh at the trivializing responses of some here that make it seem like they wouldn't care even if they knew he was guilty. I hope that is not what anyone means.Oakbear said:
"I was hoping Cal would only recruit players this year that did not have to go through pre-trial diversion programs. Maybe next year."
have to balance the criminal acts against the reduction in NIL required LOL
that said, given the "me too" movement, I no longer assume that the guy is the bad person, more open to the woman is exaggerating or ???
IMO, this is a bad move. 1. This is a significant legal risk. If he does anything similar at Cal, Cal is going to get sued because they knew his alleged history when they brought him in. 2. I don't think the publicity is worth it. 3. If he got NIL, there is a good chance that some are going to shy away from donating if they think this is where their money might go.
concernedparent said:I understand he was hurt prior to the game. The emphasis is on the seven. He only earned seven minutes in a game for one of the worst P5 programs last year. Do you think any real contributor only plays seven minutes in a game even after coming back from injury?Civil Bear said:That was due to an injury prior to the game he played 7 minutes.concernedparent said:Frankly, I don't want players like this representing our program. It's made even more puzzling because he's done absolutely nothing in two years of college ball. Like last year he played SEVEN minutes in one game prior to his suspension. He was a deep bench player for a team that was WORSE than us last year.BearlyCareAnymore said:SMH at the last statement, and smh at the trivializing responses of some here that make it seem like they wouldn't care even if they knew he was guilty. I hope that is not what anyone means.Oakbear said:
"I was hoping Cal would only recruit players this year that did not have to go through pre-trial diversion programs. Maybe next year."
have to balance the criminal acts against the reduction in NIL required LOL
that said, given the "me too" movement, I no longer assume that the guy is the bad person, more open to the woman is exaggerating or ???
IMO, this is a bad move. 1. This is a significant legal risk. If he does anything similar at Cal, Cal is going to get sued because they knew his alleged history when they brought him in. 2. I don't think the publicity is worth it. 3. If he got NIL, there is a good chance that some are going to shy away from donating if they think this is where their money might go.
calumnus said:concernedparent said:I understand he was hurt prior to the game. The emphasis is on the seven. He only earned seven minutes in a game for one of the worst P5 programs last year. Do you think any real contributor only plays seven minutes in a game even after coming back from injury?Civil Bear said:That was due to an injury prior to the game he played 7 minutes.concernedparent said:Frankly, I don't want players like this representing our program. It's made even more puzzling because he's done absolutely nothing in two years of college ball. Like last year he played SEVEN minutes in one game prior to his suspension. He was a deep bench player for a team that was WORSE than us last year.BearlyCareAnymore said:SMH at the last statement, and smh at the trivializing responses of some here that make it seem like they wouldn't care even if they knew he was guilty. I hope that is not what anyone means.Oakbear said:
"I was hoping Cal would only recruit players this year that did not have to go through pre-trial diversion programs. Maybe next year."
have to balance the criminal acts against the reduction in NIL required LOL
that said, given the "me too" movement, I no longer assume that the guy is the bad person, more open to the woman is exaggerating or ???
IMO, this is a bad move. 1. This is a significant legal risk. If he does anything similar at Cal, Cal is going to get sued because they knew his alleged history when they brought him in. 2. I don't think the publicity is worth it. 3. If he got NIL, there is a good chance that some are going to shy away from donating if they think this is where their money might go.
Celestine only played 10 minutes at Butler after nearly a month off due to injury. It is not that unusual.
I am assuming Madsen and staff are doing due diligence. If he is really bringing in guys as bad as you think then his hiring and extension were huge mistakes. Given we are talking about Knowlton, I can understand your skepticism. We will find out soon enough.
Hopefully we Avoid The Noid with this pickupBig C said:
It's early yet. Very early, in fact. But at this point, the title of this thread constitutes some pretty decent sarcasm.
Fair enough. I understand this is a depth piece with potential upside. We will just have to see if Madsen can evaluate unproven talent.calumnus said:concernedparent said:I understand he was hurt prior to the game. The emphasis is on the seven. He only earned seven minutes in a game for one of the worst P5 programs last year. Do you think any real contributor only plays seven minutes in a game even after coming back from injury?Civil Bear said:That was due to an injury prior to the game he played 7 minutes.concernedparent said:Frankly, I don't want players like this representing our program. It's made even more puzzling because he's done absolutely nothing in two years of college ball. Like last year he played SEVEN minutes in one game prior to his suspension. He was a deep bench player for a team that was WORSE than us last year.BearlyCareAnymore said:SMH at the last statement, and smh at the trivializing responses of some here that make it seem like they wouldn't care even if they knew he was guilty. I hope that is not what anyone means.Oakbear said:
"I was hoping Cal would only recruit players this year that did not have to go through pre-trial diversion programs. Maybe next year."
have to balance the criminal acts against the reduction in NIL required LOL
that said, given the "me too" movement, I no longer assume that the guy is the bad person, more open to the woman is exaggerating or ???
IMO, this is a bad move. 1. This is a significant legal risk. If he does anything similar at Cal, Cal is going to get sued because they knew his alleged history when they brought him in. 2. I don't think the publicity is worth it. 3. If he got NIL, there is a good chance that some are going to shy away from donating if they think this is where their money might go.
Celestine only played 10 minutes at Butler after nearly a month off due to injury. It is not that unusual.
I am assuming Madsen and staff are doing due diligence. If he is really bringing in guys as bad as you think then his hiring and extension were huge mistakes. Given we are talking about Knowlton, I can understand your skepticism. We will find out soon enough.
concernedparent said:Fair enough. I understand this is a depth piece with potential upside. We will just have to see if Madsen can evaluate unproven talent.calumnus said:concernedparent said:I understand he was hurt prior to the game. The emphasis is on the seven. He only earned seven minutes in a game for one of the worst P5 programs last year. Do you think any real contributor only plays seven minutes in a game even after coming back from injury?Civil Bear said:That was due to an injury prior to the game he played 7 minutes.concernedparent said:Frankly, I don't want players like this representing our program. It's made even more puzzling because he's done absolutely nothing in two years of college ball. Like last year he played SEVEN minutes in one game prior to his suspension. He was a deep bench player for a team that was WORSE than us last year.BearlyCareAnymore said:SMH at the last statement, and smh at the trivializing responses of some here that make it seem like they wouldn't care even if they knew he was guilty. I hope that is not what anyone means.Oakbear said:
"I was hoping Cal would only recruit players this year that did not have to go through pre-trial diversion programs. Maybe next year."
have to balance the criminal acts against the reduction in NIL required LOL
that said, given the "me too" movement, I no longer assume that the guy is the bad person, more open to the woman is exaggerating or ???
IMO, this is a bad move. 1. This is a significant legal risk. If he does anything similar at Cal, Cal is going to get sued because they knew his alleged history when they brought him in. 2. I don't think the publicity is worth it. 3. If he got NIL, there is a good chance that some are going to shy away from donating if they think this is where their money might go.
Celestine only played 10 minutes at Butler after nearly a month off due to injury. It is not that unusual.
I am assuming Madsen and staff are doing due diligence. If he is really bringing in guys as bad as you think then his hiring and extension were huge mistakes. Given we are talking about Knowlton, I can understand your skepticism. We will find out soon enough.
concernedparent said:Fair enough. I understand this is a depth piece with potential upside. We will just have to see if Madsen can evaluate unproven talent.calumnus said:concernedparent said:I understand he was hurt prior to the game. The emphasis is on the seven. He only earned seven minutes in a game for one of the worst P5 programs last year. Do you think any real contributor only plays seven minutes in a game even after coming back from injury?Civil Bear said:That was due to an injury prior to the game he played 7 minutes.concernedparent said:Frankly, I don't want players like this representing our program. It's made even more puzzling because he's done absolutely nothing in two years of college ball. Like last year he played SEVEN minutes in one game prior to his suspension. He was a deep bench player for a team that was WORSE than us last year.BearlyCareAnymore said:SMH at the last statement, and smh at the trivializing responses of some here that make it seem like they wouldn't care even if they knew he was guilty. I hope that is not what anyone means.Oakbear said:
"I was hoping Cal would only recruit players this year that did not have to go through pre-trial diversion programs. Maybe next year."
have to balance the criminal acts against the reduction in NIL required LOL
that said, given the "me too" movement, I no longer assume that the guy is the bad person, more open to the woman is exaggerating or ???
IMO, this is a bad move. 1. This is a significant legal risk. If he does anything similar at Cal, Cal is going to get sued because they knew his alleged history when they brought him in. 2. I don't think the publicity is worth it. 3. If he got NIL, there is a good chance that some are going to shy away from donating if they think this is where their money might go.
Celestine only played 10 minutes at Butler after nearly a month off due to injury. It is not that unusual.
I am assuming Madsen and staff are doing due diligence. If he is really bringing in guys as bad as you think then his hiring and extension were huge mistakes. Given we are talking about Knowlton, I can understand your skepticism. We will find out soon enough.
concernedparent said:Frankly, I don't want players like this representing our program. It's made even more puzzling because he's done absolutely nothing in two years of college ball. Like last year he played SEVEN minutes in one game prior to his suspension. He was a deep bench player for a team that was WORSE than us last year.BearlyCareAnymore said:SMH at the last statement, and smh at the trivializing responses of some here that make it seem like they wouldn't care even if they knew he was guilty. I hope that is not what anyone means.Oakbear said:
"I was hoping Cal would only recruit players this year that did not have to go through pre-trial diversion programs. Maybe next year."
have to balance the criminal acts against the reduction in NIL required LOL
that said, given the "me too" movement, I no longer assume that the guy is the bad person, more open to the woman is exaggerating or ???
IMO, this is a bad move. 1. This is a significant legal risk. If he does anything similar at Cal, Cal is going to get sued because they knew his alleged history when they brought him in. 2. I don't think the publicity is worth it. 3. If he got NIL, there is a good chance that some are going to shy away from donating if they think this is where their money might go.
Oakbear said:yes, part of it, people stating that someone did something to them gets attention and some people crave the attention so make crap up, or if someone irritates you, you make up a story.. it happens, as I noted, I used to just assume the man did it (I know most guys are pigs), but now don't just assume it any longerconcernedparent said:That's what you got out of it?Oakbear said:
that said, given the "me too" movement, I no longer assume that the guy is the bad person, more open to the woman is exaggerating or ???
