NEWS: Cal guard Justin Pippen is committing to transfer to Ohio State, per his agents at WME Basketball. He’s a sophomore who averaged 14.2 points per game this year and had 4.6 assists and 3.9 rebounds. He’s the son of NBA Hall of Famer Scottie Pippen. pic.twitter.com/zsqVEp2Mlp
— Pete Thamel (@PeteThamel) April 10, 2026
Pippen to Ohio State
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Dang, we get poached by OSU again, just like with Justice Sueing
westcoastdude said:NEWS: Cal guard Justin Pippen is committing to transfer to Ohio State, per his agents at WME Basketball. He’s a sophomore who averaged 14.2 points per game this year and had 4.6 assists and 3.9 rebounds. He’s the son of NBA Hall of Famer Scottie Pippen. pic.twitter.com/zsqVEp2Mlp
— Pete Thamel (@PeteThamel) April 10, 2026
Good for him. Also saving about 10% through state income taxes - nice!
Chunger89 said:
Dang, we get poached by OSU again, just like with Justice Sueing
I don't thing Sueing was poached so much as driven off by Fox.
Not going to fret about it. tOSU plays in a fundamentally different universe.
(and note - they have an incoming Frosh class to is over 8,200 at a university that has 67,000. Cal's is about 6,30 first years. Also Ohio is LOSING population and especially college age population and is not that selective. I don't know thier enrollment yield. Subsidzing/promoting sports is a no brainer - because it is efficient marketing spend Just a fundamentally different business challenge that Berkeley's).
(and note - they have an incoming Frosh class to is over 8,200 at a university that has 67,000. Cal's is about 6,30 first years. Also Ohio is LOSING population and especially college age population and is not that selective. I don't know thier enrollment yield. Subsidzing/promoting sports is a no brainer - because it is efficient marketing spend Just a fundamentally different business challenge that Berkeley's).
Take care of your Chicken
Does this mean Scottie will be flying out to Columbus to watch Justin's home games next year? Hope he enjoys long flights to the middle of the country.
stu said:Chunger89 said:
Dang, we get poached by OSU again, just like with Justice Sueing
I don't thing Sueing was poached so much as driven off by Fox.
Coaches like Fox are obsolete in the NIL era
westcoastdude said:NEWS: Cal guard Justin Pippen is committing to transfer to Ohio State, per his agents at WME Basketball. He’s a sophomore who averaged 14.2 points per game this year and had 4.6 assists and 3.9 rebounds. He’s the son of NBA Hall of Famer Scottie Pippen. pic.twitter.com/zsqVEp2Mlp
— Pete Thamel (@PeteThamel) April 10, 2026
His loss.
Strykur said:stu said:Chunger89 said:
Dang, we get poached by OSU again, just like with Justice Sueing
I don't thing Sueing was poached so much as driven off by Fox.
Coaches like Fox are obsolete in the NIL era
In the transfer era, and really just the 21st Century, which started with Bobby Knight getting fired at Indiana, surviving for a few years in Lubbock, Texas before having to resign there.
So he is pretty much like Stojakovic.
xxnatedoggxx said:
So he is pretty much like Stojakovic.
I liked him better, Pippen is a much better shooter and passer, but the resemblance is uncanny.
NIL means No Intercollegiate Loyalty
Id rather have a loyal four year good student that values the Cal education over the NIL Vagabonds.
That said, smart choice for his career.
Id rather have a loyal four year good student that values the Cal education over the NIL Vagabonds.
That said, smart choice for his career.
calumnus said:xxnatedoggxx said:
So he is pretty much like Stojakovic.
I liked him better, Pippen is a much better shooter and passer, but the resemblance is uncanny.
I think Pippen was much better at defense and hustle.
stu said:calumnus said:xxnatedoggxx said:
So he is pretty much like Stojakovic.
I liked him better, Pippen is a much better shooter and passer, but the resemblance is uncanny.
I think Pippen was much better at defense and hustle.
That too
calumnus said:xxnatedoggxx said:
So he is pretty much like Stojakovic.
I liked him better, Pippen is a much better shooter and passer, but the resemblance is uncanny.
They're both dead to me. As far as I'm concerned using Cal as a one-year stepping stone is grounds for excommunication.
Who in the AD is in charge of benchmarking and developing "lesson's learned" from the REVENUE raise of other programs? Could BI interview them after the portal closes?
If the story is that to "compete" in the upper 1/3 of the ACC Cal Basketball has to raise an annual $20 million (what factor would that be above what Cal BB has _EVER_ raised: 3x? 4x? 5x?) that that is a call to action/requires changes FAR in excess of simply pleading with donors or running a crowdsourcing or asking for more Calimony. It also isn't just hiring a GM. For example, there is no NBA running Louisville NIL _AND_ it is decidedly the second tier school one of the less wealthy states in in the country. And yet they are throwing around _RUMORED_ 3-4-5 million a year offers.
f you are NOT optimistic that DC will get this addressed (maybe 2029? Maybe?) this is the environment Cal revenue sports are in for the foreseeable future.
It FEELS like Cal FB NIL is in a competitive place from outcomes. SB's and other's efforts raised a sufficient warchests that we seem able to be competitive for high value targets. I personally think that is because of long standing social and fundraising infrastructure (Gridiron clubs, ESP sales, SB's annual party, etc.) which could be leveraged for that lift.
But if we really are in a world in which the Jake Hall's of the world are making 50% of our entire budget we need to both fly the plane this year but really rebuild it for the future. BI SHOULD be able to get answers out of the AD - because that provides the movers and shakers on this board possible actionable things to do.
MM showed last year he is something of a magician. We are likely getting discounts from kids for the reasons that SB and Greg laid out (NBA capable bodies that for a variety of reasons were languishing in their current home). But the tournament showed that those kids get you only so far against 1) Obvious 1 and dones like Cameron Boozer or 2) Senior laden kids with obvious talent that could be assembled like Michigan's squad.
If the story is that to "compete" in the upper 1/3 of the ACC Cal Basketball has to raise an annual $20 million (what factor would that be above what Cal BB has _EVER_ raised: 3x? 4x? 5x?) that that is a call to action/requires changes FAR in excess of simply pleading with donors or running a crowdsourcing or asking for more Calimony. It also isn't just hiring a GM. For example, there is no NBA running Louisville NIL _AND_ it is decidedly the second tier school one of the less wealthy states in in the country. And yet they are throwing around _RUMORED_ 3-4-5 million a year offers.
f you are NOT optimistic that DC will get this addressed (maybe 2029? Maybe?) this is the environment Cal revenue sports are in for the foreseeable future.
It FEELS like Cal FB NIL is in a competitive place from outcomes. SB's and other's efforts raised a sufficient warchests that we seem able to be competitive for high value targets. I personally think that is because of long standing social and fundraising infrastructure (Gridiron clubs, ESP sales, SB's annual party, etc.) which could be leveraged for that lift.
But if we really are in a world in which the Jake Hall's of the world are making 50% of our entire budget we need to both fly the plane this year but really rebuild it for the future. BI SHOULD be able to get answers out of the AD - because that provides the movers and shakers on this board possible actionable things to do.
MM showed last year he is something of a magician. We are likely getting discounts from kids for the reasons that SB and Greg laid out (NBA capable bodies that for a variety of reasons were languishing in their current home). But the tournament showed that those kids get you only so far against 1) Obvious 1 and dones like Cameron Boozer or 2) Senior laden kids with obvious talent that could be assembled like Michigan's squad.
Take care of your Chicken
Wrong Pippen
"I never had a day off for 23 years" - Larsa Pippen claimed she and Scottie had sex four times every night during his NBA career https://t.co/64s6HIDNVo via @Yahoo
— Will Lee (@MidnoirCowboy) April 9, 2026
Is it mostly a financial decision? Ohio State has had only slightly better results than us this year, barely making the tournament and losing in the first round.
Cal88 said:
Is it mostly a financial decision? Ohio State has had only slightly better results than us this year, barely making the tournament and losing in the first round.
You have to ask him, we can only speculate. However, if he is really getting $3 million I would guess that is the main reason. And for those who say "but his dad is rich, he doesn't need the money" I am pretty sure Scotty was not giving him $3 million any time soon. Big difference between having to ask your dad for stuff and having $3 million of your own.
Louisville is also a basketball school in a basketball state. Despite the fact that, as an example, the last time I looked at their budget, Kentucky got more revenue from football than it did from basketball, which shocked me, I'm going to guess that the donor support for basketball at Louisville, particularly because of the rivalry with Kentucky, is as great if not greater than the support for football.
That's simply not the case at Cal at this point. Yes, we have a storied basketball history. But that story is far in the past at this point.
I'm also going to speculate that, because of the focus on basketball at Louisville, maybe they're less concerned about relegation than we are. Look at UConn. They're not in P4, and they're not going to be in P4, but they were still in the Final Four. If that's the case, Louisville may very well be using football money to subsidize basketball, because they feel that's the bang for their bucks.
One other thing. Louisville has nine men's and 12 women's sports, 21 in all, which is far less than Cal has. If you're not somehow counting on football and basketball to bail out the rest of the athletic department budget, you don't have to worry so much about relegation, IMHO. I think it's inevitable that the next AD will have to look at chopping sports that do not fully endow themselves. As we saw when Sandy was going to do it, that's going to be an ugly process, particular when the women get cut.
That's simply not the case at Cal at this point. Yes, we have a storied basketball history. But that story is far in the past at this point.
I'm also going to speculate that, because of the focus on basketball at Louisville, maybe they're less concerned about relegation than we are. Look at UConn. They're not in P4, and they're not going to be in P4, but they were still in the Final Four. If that's the case, Louisville may very well be using football money to subsidize basketball, because they feel that's the bang for their bucks.
One other thing. Louisville has nine men's and 12 women's sports, 21 in all, which is far less than Cal has. If you're not somehow counting on football and basketball to bail out the rest of the athletic department budget, you don't have to worry so much about relegation, IMHO. I think it's inevitable that the next AD will have to look at chopping sports that do not fully endow themselves. As we saw when Sandy was going to do it, that's going to be an ugly process, particular when the women get cut.
Jeff82 said:
Louisville is also a basketball school in a basketball state. Despite the fact that, as an example, the last time I looked at their budget, Kentucky got more revenue from football than it did from basketball, which shocked me, I'm going to guess that the donor support for basketball at Louisville, particularly because of the rivalry with Kentucky, is as great if not greater than the support for football.
That's simply not the case at Cal at this point. Yes, we have a storied basketball history. But that story is far in the past at this point.
I'm also going to speculate that, because of the focus on basketball at Louisville, maybe they're less concerned about relegation than we are. Look at UConn. They're not in P4, and they're not going to be in P4, but they were still in the Final Four. If that's the case, Louisville may very well be using football money to subsidize basketball, because they feel that's the bang for their bucks.
One other thing. Louisville has nine men's and 12 women's sports, 21 in all, which is far less than Cal has. If you're not somehow counting on football and basketball to bail out the rest of the athletic department budget, you don't have to worry so much about relegation, IMHO. I think it's inevitable that the next AD will have to look at chopping sports that do not fully endow themselves. As we saw when Sandy was going to do it, that's going to be an ugly process, particular when the women get cut.
You can't cut women's sports and comply with TitleIX.
All "sports" should be defined as a men's and women's team together. "Cal swimming" for example. "Rowing" "Baseball and softball." The entire sport needs to be endowed to be retained, not just the men's side.
Basketball is easy, with a men's and a women's team. Football needs to support an equivalent number of women's scholarships, like women's soccer and field hockey.
Jeff82 said:
Louisville is also a basketball school in a basketball state. Despite the fact that, as an example, the last time I looked at their budget, Kentucky got more revenue from football than it did from basketball, which shocked me, I'm going to guess that the donor support for basketball at Louisville, particularly because of the rivalry with Kentucky, is as great if not greater than the support for football.
That's simply not the case at Cal at this point. Yes, we have a storied basketball history. But that story is far in the past at this point.
I'm also going to speculate that, because of the focus on basketball at Louisville, maybe they're less concerned about relegation than we are. Look at UConn. They're not in P4, and they're not going to be in P4, but they were still in the Final Four. If that's the case, Louisville may very well be using football money to subsidize basketball, because they feel that's the bang for their bucks.
One other thing. Louisville has nine men's and 12 women's sports, 21 in all, which is far less than Cal has. If you're not somehow counting on football and basketball to bail out the rest of the athletic department budget, you don't have to worry so much about relegation, IMHO. I think it's inevitable that the next AD will have to look at chopping sports that do not fully endow themselves. As we saw when Sandy was going to do it, that's going to be an ugly process, particular when the women get cut.
Honestly it isn't about the number of sports. Here are the 7 sports that Cal offers which Louisville does not according to a quick google.
Mens Rugby
Mens and Womens Gymanstics
Mens Crew
Mens and Womens' Water polo
Beach Volleyball
It is near impossible for me to imagine a world in which Cal cuts Crew, Water Polo or Rugby. Crew has the kind of vocal and influential alumni that might resort to violence. That leaves Gymnastics and Beach Volleyball. And it just isn't clear you save THAT much money axing them.
Essentially the problem for non-revenue sports is that the savings are small but the screams would be LOUD. Track and Field is expensive and Evans is great real estate but it also is a key way that Cal gets ANY diversity so would be politically challenging to cut.
Take care of your Chicken
socaltownie said:Jeff82 said:
Louisville is also a basketball school in a basketball state. Despite the fact that, as an example, the last time I looked at their budget, Kentucky got more revenue from football than it did from basketball, which shocked me, I'm going to guess that the donor support for basketball at Louisville, particularly because of the rivalry with Kentucky, is as great if not greater than the support for football.
That's simply not the case at Cal at this point. Yes, we have a storied basketball history. But that story is far in the past at this point.
I'm also going to speculate that, because of the focus on basketball at Louisville, maybe they're less concerned about relegation than we are. Look at UConn. They're not in P4, and they're not going to be in P4, but they were still in the Final Four. If that's the case, Louisville may very well be using football money to subsidize basketball, because they feel that's the bang for their bucks.
One other thing. Louisville has nine men's and 12 women's sports, 21 in all, which is far less than Cal has. If you're not somehow counting on football and basketball to bail out the rest of the athletic department budget, you don't have to worry so much about relegation, IMHO. I think it's inevitable that the next AD will have to look at chopping sports that do not fully endow themselves. As we saw when Sandy was going to do it, that's going to be an ugly process, particular when the women get cut.
Honestly it isn't about the number of sports. Here are the 7 sports that Cal offers which Louisville does not according to a quick google.
Mens Rugby
Mens and Womens Gymanstics
Mens Crew
Mens and Womens' Water polo
Beach Volleyball
It is near impossible for me to imagine a world in which Cal cuts Crew, Water Polo or Rugby. Crew has the kind of vocal and influential alumni that might resort to violence. That leaves Gymnastics and Beach Volleyball. And it just isn't clear you save THAT much money axing them.
Essentially the problem for non-revenue sports is that the savings are small but the screams would be LOUD. Track and Field is expensive and Evans is great real estate but it also is a key way that Cal gets ANY diversity so would be politically challenging to cut.
IIRC I read somewhere, maybe here, that the long term plan is to move T&F to Clark Kerr campus once the restrictions on building there expire.
socaltownie said:Jeff82 said:
Louisville is also a basketball school in a basketball state. Despite the fact that, as an example, the last time I looked at their budget, Kentucky got more revenue from football than it did from basketball, which shocked me, I'm going to guess that the donor support for basketball at Louisville, particularly because of the rivalry with Kentucky, is as great if not greater than the support for football.
That's simply not the case at Cal at this point. Yes, we have a storied basketball history. But that story is far in the past at this point.
I'm also going to speculate that, because of the focus on basketball at Louisville, maybe they're less concerned about relegation than we are. Look at UConn. They're not in P4, and they're not going to be in P4, but they were still in the Final Four. If that's the case, Louisville may very well be using football money to subsidize basketball, because they feel that's the bang for their bucks.
One other thing. Louisville has nine men's and 12 women's sports, 21 in all, which is far less than Cal has. If you're not somehow counting on football and basketball to bail out the rest of the athletic department budget, you don't have to worry so much about relegation, IMHO. I think it's inevitable that the next AD will have to look at chopping sports that do not fully endow themselves. As we saw when Sandy was going to do it, that's going to be an ugly process, particular when the women get cut.
Essentially the problem for non-revenue sports is that the savings are small but the screams would be LOUD. Track and Field is expensive and Evans is great real estate but it also is a key way that Cal gets ANY diversity so would be politically challenging to cut.
The money put into the program and giving up all that valuable campus real estate just does not seem like the most efficient way to get ~30 students of color. Is it even that high?
You can cut women's sports if you cut men's sports so the numbers of participants of each gender are approximately equal. But you guys may be right that the savings doesn't justify the heartache. I was just speculating on what may allow Louisville to be spending what they're spending on basketball. To put it more bluntly, we're putting nearly maximum resources into football, in order to avoid relegation whenever it happens. Like I said, maybe Louisville isn't so worried about that, so they're providing more money to basketball relative to football than we are. Or maybe they just have better donor support.
I would also note that the information on the new portal recruits suggests that again we're looking at guys who are likely to play for four schools in four years. If that's true, that's not going to make the anti-NIL folks we've been told are mad about basketball any happier. But it is what it is.
I would also note that the information on the new portal recruits suggests that again we're looking at guys who are likely to play for four schools in four years. If that's true, that's not going to make the anti-NIL folks we've been told are mad about basketball any happier. But it is what it is.
barsad said:calumnus said:xxnatedoggxx said:
So he is pretty much like Stojakovic.
I liked him better, Pippen is a much better shooter and passer, but the resemblance is uncanny.
They're both dead to me. As far as I'm concerned using Cal as a one-year stepping stone is grounds for excommunication.
That's almost every player we're going to get from the portal. It's like being surprised when your girlfriend who cheated on her ex to be with you ends up cheating on you too.
pingpong2 said:barsad said:calumnus said:xxnatedoggxx said:
So he is pretty much like Stojakovic.
I liked him better, Pippen is a much better shooter and passer, but the resemblance is uncanny.
They're both dead to me. As far as I'm concerned using Cal as a one-year stepping stone is grounds for excommunication.
That's almost every player we're going to get from the portal. It's like being surprised when your girlfriend who cheated on her ex to be with you ends up cheating on you too.
Yeah, but she said she would have stayed with me if I counteroffered. I did. She didn't. Where is the justice?
Jeff82 said:
You can cut women's sports if you cut men's sports so the numbers of participants of each gender are approximately equal.
You can drop women's sports in addition to men's sports if after the cuts are made the participant numbers are approximately equal. At many "power conference" schools, including Cal, there are currrently fewer participants in women's varsity sports.
Now, that's if Title IX is enforced the way it has been in the past. It's fair to wonder if that will continue or if enforcement will now be more lax.
pingpong2 said:barsad said:calumnus said:xxnatedoggxx said:
So he is pretty much like Stojakovic.
I liked him better, Pippen is a much better shooter and passer, but the resemblance is uncanny.
They're both dead to me. As far as I'm concerned using Cal as a one-year stepping stone is grounds for excommunication.
That's almost every player we're going to get from the portal. It's like being surprised when your girlfriend who cheated on her ex to be with you ends up cheating on you too.
I'm aware that my stance will make me dislike every top-tier Cal player from here on. I just don't believe in this system, and don't believe you earned having Cal as part of your identity because you took a bunch of money and benefits, played 30 games, and left for the highest bidder.
That's not Cal.
barsad said:pingpong2 said:barsad said:calumnus said:xxnatedoggxx said:
So he is pretty much like Stojakovic.
I liked him better, Pippen is a much better shooter and passer, but the resemblance is uncanny.
They're both dead to me. As far as I'm concerned using Cal as a one-year stepping stone is grounds for excommunication.
That's almost every player we're going to get from the portal. It's like being surprised when your girlfriend who cheated on her ex to be with you ends up cheating on you too.
I'm aware that my stance will make me dislike every top-tier Cal player from here on. I just don't believe in this system, and don't believe you earned having Cal as part of your identity because you took a bunch of money and benefits, played 30 games, and left for the highest bidder.
That's not Cal.
Oh, come on. For the love of laundry!
BearSD said:Jeff82 said:
You can cut women's sports if you cut men's sports so the numbers of participants of each gender are approximately equal.
You can drop women's sports in addition to men's sports if after the cuts are made the participant numbers are approximately equal. At many "power conference" schools, including Cal, there are currrently fewer participants in women's varsity sports.
Now, that's if Title IX is enforced the way it has been in the past. It's fair to wonder if that will continue or if enforcement will now be more lax.
I seriously doubt there will be any enforcement of TitleIX by the Trump administration unless they want to punish a university for other reasons. So Cal still needs to comply (unless they don't know that Cal is Berkeley?) .
barsad said:pingpong2 said:barsad said:calumnus said:xxnatedoggxx said:
So he is pretty much like Stojakovic.
I liked him better, Pippen is a much better shooter and passer, but the resemblance is uncanny.
They're both dead to me. As far as I'm concerned using Cal as a one-year stepping stone is grounds for excommunication.
That's almost every player we're going to get from the portal. It's like being surprised when your girlfriend who cheated on her ex to be with you ends up cheating on you too.
I'm aware that my stance will make me dislike every top-tier Cal player from here on. I just don't believe in this system, and don't believe you earned having Cal as part of your identity because you took a bunch of money and benefits, played 30 games, and left for the highest bidder.
That's not Cal.
I'm 100% with you on this. As it currently stands, for the most part these aren't Cal students we're rooting for. These are ringers we're renting for a year.
pingpong2 said:barsad said:pingpong2 said:barsad said:calumnus said:xxnatedoggxx said:
So he is pretty much like Stojakovic.
I liked him better, Pippen is a much better shooter and passer, but the resemblance is uncanny.
They're both dead to me. As far as I'm concerned using Cal as a one-year stepping stone is grounds for excommunication.
That's almost every player we're going to get from the portal. It's like being surprised when your girlfriend who cheated on her ex to be with you ends up cheating on you too.
I'm aware that my stance will make me dislike every top-tier Cal player from here on. I just don't believe in this system, and don't believe you earned having Cal as part of your identity because you took a bunch of money and benefits, played 30 games, and left for the highest bidder.
That's not Cal.
I'm 100% with you on this. As it currently stands, for the most part these aren't Cal students we're rooting for. These are ringers we're renting for a year.
Go Laundry!
these next couple of years will be interesting.
I don't begrudge players a percentage of the revenue they are creating, but this isn't that. It's extra money that schools are frantically raising just to stay in the game.
Big C said:
I don't begrudge players a percentage of the revenue they are creating, but this isn't that. It's extra money that schools are frantically raising just to stay in the game.
I submit that it is the WRONG game. Time will tell.
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