socaltownie said:

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Details on paid. Good chance for high impact aadd

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stu said:

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We have lost 7 rotation players and pending further signings we have 8 players coming in or returning after redshirt/injury. Approximate equivalents:

Pippen out, Ross in: Similar size, more experience, lower ceiling.
Ames out, Cooper in: A bit bigger, less experience.
Campbell out, Ruff in: Bigger, less experience, higher ceiling.

Bell out, Indrusaitis in: Less length, more bulk.
Camden out, Yeanay in: Better athlete, way less experience, unknown skill set.
Dorsey out, Bakare in: better athlete, no experience, higher ceiling.
Wilkins in: nobody comparable leaving - long, athletic, little experience, very high ceiling.

Ilic out, Mitrovoc in: More length, less bulk, possibly quicker, no experience.

Overall more athletic but Madsen will really have to coach them up to get equal or better results.

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GameDay said:

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Don't forget Jovani Ruff!

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HearstMining said:

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stu said:

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We have lost 7 rotation players and pending further signings we have 8 players coming in or returning after redshirt/injury. Approximate equivalents:

Pippen out, Ross in: Similar size, more experience, lower ceiling.
Ames out, Cooper in: A bit bigger, less experience.
Campbell out, Ruff in: Bigger, less experience, higher ceiling.

Bell out, Indrusaitis in: Less length, more bulk.
Camden out, Yeanay in: Better athlete, way less experience, unknown skill set.
Dorsey out, Bakare in: better athlete, no experience, higher ceiling.
Wilkins in: nobody comparable leaving - long, athletic, little experience, very high ceiling.

Ilic out, Mitrovoc in: More length, less bulk, possibly quicker, no experience.

Overall more athletic but Madsen will really have to coach them up to get equal or better results.

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In Madsen's first two years, with an iso offensive scheme (which to me essentially means no real offensive scheme) the lack of a true PG was felt mostly on defense, where the Cal's PGs were generally too small to have real impact. This last season with Pippen and a different offense was a revelation. While not the strongest athlete, he still could put the defensive clamps on opposing players. Meanwhile, his decision-making and a more versatile offensive plan made a huge difference on the offensive end. I hope TT can fill that gap, but I hope one of the incoming guys can also contribute at PG, especially on the defensive end.

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JimSox said:

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GameDay said:

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Don't forget Jovani Ruff!

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And TT Carr

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