What makes a good coach

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ClayK
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I've been meaning to post this for a while, as I consistently claim that coaching success is pretty much all about talent. But coaching -- beyond recruiting, which is job 1, 2, 3 ... 10 -- does make a difference. I read a quote from someone like Geno Auriemma who said good coaching can make a team 10% better and bad coaching can make it 30% worse, and that seems about right to me.

So what, then, is good coaching? (And I leave it to you to apply these standards to Mark Madsen and Charmin Smith.)

1) Getting your players to play hard. This is the sine qua non of coaching. Every coach does this differently, and it requires a relationship that fosters a desire to succeed individually or as a unit. Some coaches can supply this motivation by being distant from their players; others foster it by building one-to-one relationships. Regardless, it is the most important thing (after recruiting) a coach can do.

2) Combining/adjusting system and talent. Systems are built over time, and players get more and more comfortable within a system the more they play it. (Which system is, to a great extent, immaterial. All kinds of systems work, and if the coach believes in it, it can work.) Establishing a system/culture was easier before mass transfers, but it still is a big part of the job (after recruiting).

That said, the system must adjust to available talent, and most systems are flexible enough to do so. If not, perhaps another system should be installed. The coach must recognize what talent she has -- easier said than done, sometimes -- and then use it to maximum effect without having to start from zero each season. Adjusting the system to the talent available is helped at the college level because you can recruit (there's that word again) to the system.

3) Teaching. It's one thing to have a system and it's another to teach it. Coaches who cannot teach well will underachieve. At the lower levels, coaching is almost all teaching, because so many fundamentals are still involved, but even at the college level, players must improve through instruction, and they must be able to understand and execute the system.

4) Working with the administration. The administration isn't going to change, so it's up to the coach to adapt to whatever is happening above him. This sometimes means working around the edges, and sometimes requires a more direct approach. Understanding how the administration works, and the strengths and weaknesses of the administrators, is part of the job, just as with any large corporation.

5) Working with the staff at the same level and below. Coaches can do a lot to make the experience of their players better -- and thus increase player satisfaction -- by working well with everyone who is connected to the program. This extends from strength and conditioning to whoever has the keys to the gym. If the staff doesn't like a coach, easy things become difficult.

6) Dealing with the alumni. Perhaps this should be higher, as of course major donors are critical, but all alumni are important, and recognizing their importance in the perception of the program can make success come a little easier.

7) Dealing with the media. Not nearly as important as in the past, and official social media is mainly cheerleading, but still ... if ESPN likes you because you're always cooperative, that can't hurt.

8) Dealing with the officials. Being such a jerk that they hate you will catch up to you. Coaches feel they have to yell at refs for a variety of reasons, but I really don't believe it. Even if you do think yelling at the refs can produce positive results, it needs to be done in a "professional" manner.

9) OK, Xs and Os. You can always hire assistants for this. When the Sacramento Monarchs won a WNBA title, the head coach didn't draw up the plays in the huddle -- he had one of his assistants take over. But it doesn't hurt to be innovative, but really, you can only run a play couple times before the counter is applied.
stu
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Thanks for posting!

I'd add:

1.5) Getting your players to play together. It's not the system so much as getting your players to buy into it.

And regarding recruiting:

Evaluating takent is crucial. If you can't afford to pay the players everyone wants then the next best thing is to sign players who can do more than everyone else thinks they can. Some winning mid-major coaches excel at this.

I think Charmin had done well with 1.5) above. I think Madsen did well with that this past season, better than before. I also think Madsen has done very well finding and developing underrated players.
BeachedBear
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What makes a GREAT coach (in terms of longevity) is the ability to adapt season after season (and within a season).

The recent change in talent acquisition and retention seems to be the biggest impact at the college level, that I have ever witnessed. So many geniuses are now idiots and former idiots can seem brilliant.

BearlyCareAnymore
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ClayK said:

I've been meaning to post this for a while, as I consistently claim that coaching success is pretty much all about talent. But coaching -- beyond recruiting, which is job 1, 2, 3 ... 10 -- does make a difference. I read a quote from someone like Geno Auriemma who said good coaching can make a team 10% better and bad coaching can make it 30% worse, and that seems about right to me.

So what, then, is good coaching? (And I leave it to you to apply these standards to Mark Madsen and Charmin Smith.)

1) Getting your players to play hard. This is the sine qua non of coaching. Every coach does this differently, and it requires a relationship that fosters a desire to succeed individually or as a unit. Some coaches can supply this motivation by being distant from their players; others foster it by building one-to-one relationships. Regardless, it is the most important thing (after recruiting) a coach can do.

2) Combining/adjusting system and talent. Systems are built over time, and players get more and more comfortable within a system the more they play it. (Which system is, to a great extent, immaterial. All kinds of systems work, and if the coach believes in it, it can work.) Establishing a system/culture was easier before mass transfers, but it still is a big part of the job (after recruiting).

That said, the system must adjust to available talent, and most systems are flexible enough to do so. If not, perhaps another system should be installed. The coach must recognize what talent she has -- easier said than done, sometimes -- and then use it to maximum effect without having to start from zero each season. Adjusting the system to the talent available is helped at the college level because you can recruit (there's that word again) to the system.

3) Teaching. It's one thing to have a system and it's another to teach it. Coaches who cannot teach well will underachieve. At the lower levels, coaching is almost all teaching, because so many fundamentals are still involved, but even at the college level, players must improve through instruction, and they must be able to understand and execute the system.

4) Working with the administration. The administration isn't going to change, so it's up to the coach to adapt to whatever is happening above him. This sometimes means working around the edges, and sometimes requires a more direct approach. Understanding how the administration works, and the strengths and weaknesses of the administrators, is part of the job, just as with any large corporation.

5) Working with the staff at the same level and below. Coaches can do a lot to make the experience of their players better -- and thus increase player satisfaction -- by working well with everyone who is connected to the program. This extends from strength and conditioning to whoever has the keys to the gym. If the staff doesn't like a coach, easy things become difficult.

6) Dealing with the alumni. Perhaps this should be higher, as of course major donors are critical, but all alumni are important, and recognizing their importance in the perception of the program can make success come a little easier.

7) Dealing with the media. Not nearly as important as in the past, and official social media is mainly cheerleading, but still ... if ESPN likes you because you're always cooperative, that can't hurt.

8) Dealing with the officials. Being such a jerk that they hate you will catch up to you. Coaches feel they have to yell at refs for a variety of reasons, but I really don't believe it. Even if you do think yelling at the refs can produce positive results, it needs to be done in a "professional" manner.

9) OK, Xs and Os. You can always hire assistants for this. When the Sacramento Monarchs won a WNBA title, the head coach didn't draw up the plays in the huddle -- he had one of his assistants take over. But it doesn't hurt to be innovative, but really, you can only run a play couple times before the counter is applied.

I disagree that coaching can only make a team 10% better. I think Geno meant X's and O's there.

The key to great coaching is the culture that a coach successfully sells to his team. I would point to what Cignetti did his first year at Indiana where the talent was not awesome.

It's not "getting your players to play hard". It is getting your players to work hard. Every day. At everything. Understanding what they can control and what they can't and maximizing what they can control. Winning isn't the objective. It flows from all the other objectives. You may hit bad luck. You may hit a team that is just better than you are. But you can control what you can control. And be the best player and team you can be.

That flows into everything you do. Working hard on the strength and conditioning understanding that it maximizes your potential. Working hard on the practice field to improve your mechanics until they are second nature. Working hard with your teammates to coordinate your skills into a unified team. Mistakes happen. You don't excuse them. You don't self flagellate. You shake them off and work to improve next time. In fact, if you aren't making mistakes, you aren't getting better. When you see a coach that hangs his head at the press conference and puts all the "blame" on him - bad. When he blames his players - worse. The indicator of a good coach is the guy who says something like "we made mistakes and we will go back and learn from them". That is the attitude you have to have.

Games are won and lost outside of game time working on every habit, every skill, every way to better yourself and your team.

The best of the best almost universally have this attitude whether it is Olympic athletes or Jerry Rice, or Steph Curry or Michael Jordan. When a coach gets his team to buy into this, they can become much better than the sum of their parts. Buy in isn't running through a wall when the coach is giving a pregame speech. That ends about 2 minutes into the game. It can be quiet and just belief that the process is going to yield results.

You do that, the X's and O's don't matter much. Talent always matters but it matters a lot more if you maximize the talent you have.

Frankly, this is why a lot of us are early in pulling the plug on coaches. You don't always know the coach has it, but you can pretty quickly tell that they don't.

And when they don't, that coach makes the team a lot more than 30% worse.

Regarding Madsen. I don't know yet if he has it. I will say that he doesn't fall into the camp of clearly not having it. Normally, I would say that this is too long to wait and if he hasn't displayed it by now, he won't. But coaches get better too and he is young.

I will say that it is NOT being young and energetic. A lot of young, energetic guys suck. You have to demonstrate to guys that when they get up at 5:00am to work their ass off it pays dividends.
01Bear
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IMHO, job 1 of a coach is to put his/her players into a position to succeed. It doesn't matter how hard players work if what they're doing is meaningless. It's like the old John Wooden quote, don't mistake activity for achievement.

Of course, putting players in a position to succeed requires a lot of other elements, including player dedication (practicing with intention), teamwork, motivation, and adaptability. In the modern NIL era, it also includes recruiting and re-recruiting players.

Monty was a really good coach because he was able to put his players into positions to succeed. (Unfortunately, his players weren't always able to take advantage of the situations in games.) Still, among the Cal men's basketball coaches I've seen since the late 1990s, Monty is easily the best coach because he was able to put his players into positions to succeed. Look at what he did with Jorge; Monty played Jorge and let him learn how to play on the job. The difference in Jorge between Year 1 and Year 4 was significant. Jorge was a dogged defender (and a little reckless) as a freshman. By his senior year, he was easily the best perimeter defender in the conference and he had also developed his offense to the point where he managed to win Pac-12's Player of the Year (in addition to winning the Best Defensive Player of the Year).

While Monty was not the best recruiter of top tier talent (at Cal), he developed his players by putting them into positions to succeed. With Madsen, the jury's still out but his past two years have shown flashes of being able to put his players into positions to succeed. At the very least, he helped get Jaylon Tyson drafted into the NBA and helped Andrej Stojakovic get paid at Illinois. Last year, he helped to highlight Chris Bell's athleticism and long-range ability at Cal and helped John Camden prove himself to a good enough stretch 4 to get a Summer League contract.

I have high hopes that Madsen will prove to be every bit as good a coach as Monty was for Cal. I also hope Madsen has the kind of recruiting success at Cal that Monty had at Furd.
barsad
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I view fan critiques of a college basketball coach about the same way I would feel listening to an accountant sitting next to me on a jumbo jet critiquing how the pilot was flying the plane.
Madsen will be judged by wins and losses and tournament appearances, that's it. Everything else is just uninformed opinion, unless you happen to know him, work for him, or work with him.
93Bear
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I'm no expert but I learned this in Vegas and it sums it all up.

Good coaches win. Great coaches cover.
01Bear
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barsad said:

I view fan critiques of a college basketball coach about the same way I would feel listening to an accountant sitting next to me on a jumbo jet critiquing how the pilot was flying the plane.
Madsen will be judged by wins and losses and tournament appearances, that's it. Everything else is just uninformed opinion, unless you happen to know him, work for him, or work with him.

I don't disagree at all. I'm just playing along with the premise in the original post. IMHO, the number one job of a coach is to put his players into a position where they can succeed. (TBH, that's actually what I expect of every supervisor/manager/leader.)
01Bear
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93Bear said:

I'm no expert but I learned this in Vegas and it sums it all up.

Good coaches win. Great coaches cover.

What's Madsen's record on covering the spread?
calumnus
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01Bear said:

barsad said:

I view fan critiques of a college basketball coach about the same way I would feel listening to an accountant sitting next to me on a jumbo jet critiquing how the pilot was flying the plane.
Madsen will be judged by wins and losses and tournament appearances, that's it. Everything else is just uninformed opinion, unless you happen to know him, work for him, or work with him.

I don't disagree at all. I'm just playing along with the premise in the original post. IMHO, the number one job of a coach is to put his players into a position where they can succeed. (TBH, that's actually what I expect of every supervisor/manager/leader.)

1. Getting good players
2. Playing your best players
3. Putting your best players in a position to succeed/including strategies, skills and motivation.
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