Interesting list, but most of them, IMO, don't make sense. If Monty is retiring, why on earth would you go for someone 2 years OLDER (Steve Fisher)? Unless you wanted to do the whole thing over again in a few years. Lavin can recruit, but I'm still not sold on his coaching. Shaka Smart is a wonderful pipe dream--he just signed an extension w/ VCU, and he's highly unlikely to want to come out west (he wasn't interested in UCLA according to rumors). Ivy coaches are rarely successful moving up (see: Robinson at OSU, the Cornell guy at BC). I'd be interested in Marshall, Stallings, maybe Bennett. McDermott's not going anywhere.

ecb;842298572 said:

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Also, I think the better question is: Why hire from within? We just went to the NIT.

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Monty has taken Cal to the post season every year he has been here, 2 NITs and 4 NCAA, only time in Cal BB history we have seen the post season that many times in a row.

diva1;842298583 said:

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Monty has taken Cal to the post season every year he has been here, 2 NITs and 4 NCAA, only time in Cal BB history we have seen the post season that many times in a row.

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Sorry, I think you misunderstood me. I loved Monty's time here. What I'm trying to say is that we are not likely to have the best possible coach for us here at Cal.

If we did, we'd have had more success. When you hire from within, it's generally because you're having sustained success. Although we've had a few good years, I think that's mainly Monty (and perhaps TD) in spite of his assistants. I don't think it's been a 'team effort' as far as coaching goes.

I just don't think it's wise to hire from within for a team that flamed out towards the end of the year and only made the NIT (though we did show some life in the NIT).

I wouldn't be upset at all if we kept Monty. I'd be upset if we hired from within though. I have nothing against Decuire, but I think he should go somewhere else first before we hire him as HC.

1. Mike Dunlap

2. Travis DeCuire

My ideal candidate would be Archie Miller from Dayton. From what I have heard he was an excellent recruiter while at Arizona. And while at Dayton he brings in mostly 3 stars but these players are able to compete against players more highly rated. To me this shows that he has eye for talent while he also showed the ability to land blue chippers it UA. Another thing that really impressed me about his Dayton team is how they routinely went 10-12 deep even in the tournament.

Heck even Monty said that he thought they were the best team in Maui

OneTopOneChickenApple;842298589 said:

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1. Mike Dunlap

2. Travis DeCuire

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Loyola Marymount just hired Dunlap earlier this month.

OneTopOneChickenApple;842298589 said:

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1. Mike Dunlap

2. Travis DeCuire

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Dunlap was just hired at my current school -- LMU.

Cal's next coach probably won't be any of these guys (save for T. DeCuire). We're going to have to get lucky. UConn's in the FF in Kevin Ollie's 2nd season--that's luck. Life isn't fair, but wow, it'd be nice to have that kind of luck for once.

JimmyMcNulty;842298548 said:

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Curious as to why Travis' name isn't coming up here.

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See: multiple weak recruiting at Cal threads.
70% of the job is recruiting. Travis has been with Monty during all these recent recruiting years. Are you satisfied? I would argue that if MM wasn't the "coach" of our rosters, we'd have been WAY worse.

teknofreek;842298537 said:

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No. He'll be Ben Braun redux with bad offense, and with lesser athletes than what he had at ucla.

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Go back to the original!

Ben is available, and many scholars of the game here love him.

:woohoo

Man, can we hire J-Kidd? JK.

Maybe we can go after Dixon. The ACC is looking deep and the P12 has no elite program after AZ and UCLA. He's far from perfect, but we can do much worse.

CALiforniALUM;842298569 said:

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Greg McDermott (Creighton)
Mike Lonergan (George Washington)
Fred Hoiberg (Iowa State)
Randy Bennett (St. Mary's)
Steve Lavin (St. John's)
Steve Fischer (SDSU)
Shaka Smart (VCU)
Gregg Marshall (Wichita State)
Scott Drew (Baylor)
Kevin Stallings (Vanderbilt)
Tim Miles (Nebraska)
Mitch Henderson (Princeton)
Andy Toole (Robert Morris)
Sydney Johnson (Fairfield)
Josh Pastner (Memphis)

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If all else failed, get Seth Greenberg from ESPN -- but I like this list.

Miles won't come. Nebraska's program is rising, and he just got a stunning new arena.

SoFlaBear;842298609 said:

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If all else failed, get Seth Greenberg from ESPN -- but I like this list.

Miles won't come. Nebraska's program is rising, and he just got a stunning new arena.

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Miles has no recruiting base in Nebraska. Nice shining arena, but the B1G is brutal competition.

Since so many of the proven big name coaches are not likely to be signable, I would like Cal to interview Kerry Keating from Santa Clara.
Keating knows how to recruit.

http://www.bruinsnation.com/2010/4/28/1449154/textbook-recruiting-kerry-keatings

http://www.santaclarabroncos.com/sports/m-baskbl/coaches/Keating_Kerry

http://kerrykeating.com/former-players/

concordtom;842298615 said:

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Since so many of the proven big name coaches are not likely to be signable, I would like Cal to interview Kerry Keating from Santa Clara.
Keating knows how to recruit.

http://www.bruinsnation.com/2010/4/28/1449154/textbook-recruiting-kerry-keatings

http://www.santaclarabroncos.com/sports/m-baskbl/coaches/Keating_Kerry

http://kerrykeating.com/former-players/

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I've heard some not so good things about him, though. He also simply hasn't had enough success on the court.

Shaka Smart!

First, I'm hoping Montgomery doesn't retire. And, if Sandy doesn't talk him out of it (or doesn't want to talk him out of it?), she should ask him for his recommendation.

One name I haven't seen listed here is Dennis Gates - who may be ready to be a head coach - and it would be great to have him back at Cal. http://www.seminoles.com/sports/m-baskbl/mtt/gates_dennis00.html

socaltownie;842298535 said:

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Would definitely chat with both Larry and with Howland.

The REALLY almost impossible thing to know is whether Howland recruited talent or whether it was the UCLA brand and talent came DESPITE Ben. The upside really is that cal will NEVER outrecruit Zona or UCLA. In many ways that is the same position Pitt was vis-a-vis Syracuse and UCONN. What Ben did there was feed the chip on the shoulder attitude to ridiculous levels. The interesting (unknown?) question is whether he could do it at Cal.

Flip side - he could be damaged goods post UCLA meltdown with recruits and AAU crowd. You simple have to do LOTS of homework there to understand the undercurrents.

Again, buyers market - I think we can make a good hire. And again, Monty did right by CAL by giving Sandy an internal candidate in TD.

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Coach Howlands wife knows how to whistle...LOUD!

I'll admit I'm nervous about this whole thing. Sandy is capable of messing this thing up as we saw with the FB hire.

tsubamoto2001;842298616 said:

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I've heard some not so good things about him, though.

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(Well, let's consider this round one of the hiring process. Passing public muster.)
Like, what, then?

http://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/basketball/9383195/Sean-Marks-earning-his-Spurs-with-San-Antonio

I like the notion of someone with Cal ties and NBA ties.

The one, the only.....................


SHOCKSTER!

is the man.

I want a guy who can bring a big with him. We need that now.

UrsaMajor;842298581 said:

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Interesting list, but most of them, IMO, don't make sense. If Monty is retiring, why on earth would you go for someone 2 years OLDER (Steve Fisher)? Unless you wanted to do the whole thing over again in a few years. Lavin can recruit, but I'm still not sold on his coaching. Shaka Smart is a wonderful pipe dream--he just signed an extension w/ VCU, and he's highly unlikely to want to come out west (he wasn't interested in UCLA according to rumors). Ivy coaches are rarely successful moving up (see: Robinson at OSU, the Cornell guy at BC). I'd be interested in Marshall, Stallings, maybe Bennett. McDermott's not going anywhere.

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I'll assume you are talking about my list. These are just names of coaches who have reasonably good reputations. All of them probably have a thing or two that are negative. This wasn't supposed to be an all inclusive list or one that all names were without questions. One thing I would say, is we could do a lot worse than many of the names on the list.

tsubamoto2001;842298633 said:

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I'll admit I'm nervous about this whole thing. Sandy is capable of messing this thing up as we saw with the FB hire.

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Me too. I have no confidence in Sandy's head coach hiring ability.

GB54;842298516 said:

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Archie Miller seems like a young guy with good coaching genes on his way up.

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My first choice would be Archie Miller. He's done a fantastic job at Dayton and was an effective assistant at Arizona.

My second choice is Charles Barkley. :p

Golden One;842298676 said:

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My first choice would be Archie Miller. He's done a fantastic job at Dayton and was an effective assistant at Arizona.

My second choice is Charles Barkley. :p

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Charles would put people in the seats

Guys I like are:
Tommy Amaker (Harvard)
Tad Boyle (Colorado)
Larry Krystowiak (Utah)
Greg McDermott (Creighton)
Eric Musselman (ASU, assistant)
Of those, Musselman may be the only realistic one. He has NBA head coaching experience and is known as a grinder. He is credited with some of ASU's improvement this year. I think he would be a great choice.

I don't think any of the current staff should be considered due to mediocre recruiting and poor player development.

Sluggo

tsubamoto2001;842298598 said:

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Cal's next coach probably won't be any of these guys (save for T. DeCuire). We're going to have to get lucky. UConn's in the FF in Kevin Ollie's 2nd season--that's luck. Life isn't fair, but wow, it'd be nice to have that kind of luck for once.

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+1

ecb;842298579 said:

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Rumors are that John Montgomery didn't contribute much in terms of coaching (mediocre, but not terrible), but contributed absolutely nothing in terms of recruiting. Given that recruiting is where we've been lacking, I think it's not too unreasonable to say.

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Is it possible that SB told Monty that John wasn't viable anymore as part of his staff. Obviously, the deep pocket donars that might notice such things as mentioned above might want her to shuffle the coaching staff a bit. I guess the question is if John has to leave, will Monty concur, and continue coaching, or will he just retire? I wouild think that goodly percentage of Monty's reason for continuing to coach is that he gets to do it with his son. Nepitism runs deep.

ccajon;842298696 said:

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Is it possible that SB told Monty that John wasn't viable anymore as part of his staff. Obviously, the deep pocket donars that might notice such things as mentioned above might want her to shuffle the coaching staff a bit. I guess the question is if John has to leave, will Monty concur, and continue coaching, or will he just retire? I wouild think that goodly percentage of Monty's reason for continuing to coach is that he gets to do it with his son. Nepitism runs deep.

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No, it is not possible.

DrDanger;842298699 said:

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No, it is not possible.

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That's too bad.

I would take Muuselman in a heartbeat if he was interested.


Hope that Sandy is not looking at any more coaches from LA. Tech.

Somewhere between 75 and 90% of the names listed in this thread would never come here. Tommy Amaker just turned down Wake Forest. Shaka Smart has turned down everybody there is in the last two years (which may have been a mistake on his part, but he still has lots of options). Sluggo pointed out that his list is unrealistic, is that what's going on for everyone? Just spit-balling names that you'd like to see regardless of reality? Well, in case you believe what you're saying, let me just say that Archie Miller is not coming to Cal. He's one of the hottest young names around, and will hold out for an offer at a blue-blood program. Fred Hoiberg? Puh-lease!

And yet when some one who isn't Archie Miller or Fred Hoiberg or Gregg Marshall gets hired, a lot of you same people are going to bitch and moan that Sandy should be fired for not hiring some one who was never going to come here. It makes it tough to take those kind of criticisms seriously.

Again...let me reiterate: Larry Krystkowiak.