why not Brian Scalabrine

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GoBears58
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He played for over 10 years in the NBA and was admired by many in the Warriors organization...
oskidunker
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He's a Trojan. I have many bad memories of him. No thanks
bearister
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Coach Veal Scallopini? No way. Plus he is a ginger.
93gobears
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bearister;842299368 said:

Coach Veal Scallopini? No way. Plus he is a ginger.


Racist.
pingpong2
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I'd be down for the White Mamba.
GoBears58
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oskidunker;842299346 said:

He's a Trojan. I have many bad memories of him. No thanks


Tony Bennett or Archie Miller would be my top choices...

but Mamba would be a lot more interesting than the retreads like Howland, or the Wac/Big Sky/LA tech quality guys that will sweet talk Sandy.
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GoBears58;842299392 said:

Tony Bennett or Archie Miller would be my top choices...

but Mamba would be a lot more interesting than the retreads like Howland, or the Wac/Big Sky/LA tech quality guys that will sweet talk Sandy.


this is a joke, right? he hasn't even been an assistant for more than a year at any level and got demoted to the d-league by the warriors.
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GoBears58;842299392 said:

Tony Bennett or Archie Miller would be my top choices...

but Mamba would be a lot more interesting than the retreads like Howland, or the Wac/Big Sky/LA tech quality guys that will sweet talk Sandy.


Please! No more LA Tech guys!
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93gobears;842299380 said:

Racist.


Well played.
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GoBears58;842299392 said:

Tony Bennett or Archie Miller would be my top choices...

but Mamba would be a lot more interesting than the retreads like Howland, or the Wac/Big Sky/LA tech quality guys that will sweet talk Sandy.

Why the hell would Bennett leave a program he built into a 1 seed and won the ACC with to come to Cal? And Archie Miller will have his pick of jobs if he wants to leave. I think those are really unrealistic unless for some reason someone wants to pony up $4 million for the job.
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The ground is littered with one hit wonders in the tournament from Mid-Majors. Indeed, we hired one and let him spend a decade fiddling with our program. When he got to Rice and couldn't leverage natural recruiting advantages we saw just what a "coach" he was.

If we hire Archie Miller because of three wins I am going to SCREAM.
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socaltownie;842299535 said:

The ground is littered with one hit wonders in the tournament from Mid-Majors. Indeed, we hired one and let him spend a decade fiddling with our program. When he got to Rice and couldn't leverage natural recruiting advantages we saw just what a "coach" he was.

If we hire Archie Miller because of three wins I am going to SCREAM.


I think you have to evaluate case by case. Miller has three years of experience as a head man in a solid conference that sent 6 teams this season. He has a lot of experience as an assistant at the elite high major level, which means he understands the recruiting aspect. On the other hand, He just doesn't have a big body of work. He also has never finished higher than 5th in his conference in his 3 seasons.
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+1

Look at Enfield for an example of one-hit wonders.

The only thing that is sillier than going after the flavor of the week is the fantasy that we can pick off someone like Bennett from an ACC school or Smart (who's turned down a lot more prestigious jobs). I'm surprised no one has mentioned Billy Donovan yet...
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UrsaMajor;842299549 said:

+1

Look at Enfield for an example of one-hit wonders.

The only thing that is sillier than going after the flavor of the week is the fantasy that we can pick off someone like Bennett from an ACC school or Smart (who's turned down a lot more prestigious jobs). I'm surprised no one has mentioned Billy Donovan yet...


Regarding Shaka:

I just think we don't know why he is still at VCU. He may be holding out for one of the top 5 jobs in college hoops (Kentucky, Duke, Indiana, Kansas, North Carolina) and figures that there is no harm to the Shaka brand by standing pat until one of those 5 opens up. On the other hand, he may be waiting for other things to happen. Turning down UCLA is actually a pretty smart career move - it doesn't take a rocket scientist to see that Mr. Dead Head will sit on the sideline and criticize you every season for not being Wooden and that the alums have ridiculously unrealistic expectations (and thus why the spin off campus isn't listed above).

It NEVER hurts to ask. I would be Shocked if Shaka said anything other than no but Sandy would be criminally stupid not to ask and we shouldn't assume anything about what motivates guys. Cal is a unique job - with both barriers to success and intriguing upside to a lot of coaches.
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philbert;842299397 said:

this is a joke, right? he hasn't even been an assistant for more than a year at any level and got demoted to the d-league by the warriors.



No it's not. Mark Jackson is no Larry/Hubie Brown as far as X's and O'/ strategy so who knows why he demoted Brian after arguing with Pete Myers.

By the way,
Pat Riley was an assistant for only one year with the Lakers and then led them to a title his first full season as an "interim" coach. He was a broadcaster before that.


Kidding, no..
tsubamoto2001
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UrsaMajor;842299549 said:

+1

Look at Enfield for an example of one-hit wonders.

The only thing that is sillier than going after the flavor of the week is the fantasy that we can pick off someone like Bennett from an ACC school or Smart (who's turned down a lot more prestigious jobs). I'm surprised no one has mentioned Billy Donovan yet...


Enfield was indeed a one-hit wonder, but he would have likely taken this years FGCU team to the Tournament or come close to it. Also, when you're SC, basketball is not the highest priority. They've never had sustained success and what others may deem as a big risk was not a big risk for them, as they did not have much to lose. CEnfield was a hot name that brought a flashy game (uptempo style). If it works out, you do back flips. If not, it's not a huge loss. The worse thing they could have done was hire a coach that brought a boring style and had little upside for success. Enfield brings a lot of upside, especially with the recruiting base that he has.
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bluesaxe;842299491 said:

Why the hell would Bennett leave a program he built into a 1 seed and won the ACC with to come to Cal? And Archie Miller will have his pick of jobs if he wants to leave. I think those are really unrealistic unless for some reason someone wants to pony up $4 million for the job.


They won't leave which is why we need to get creative and find someone who might come here.. Someone who is young, and passionate which is why I mentioned Musselman or Scalabrine.

Imho, I would rather go that route than the Randy Bennett, Howland, or Ernie Kent retread route.

DeCuire might be a great candidate be he also has no head coaching experience, nor NBA experience.
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GoBears58;842299392 said:

Tony Bennett or Archie Miller would be my top choices...

but Mamba would be a lot more interesting than the retreads like Howland, or the Wac/Big Sky/LA tech quality guys that will sweet talk Sandy.


As long as we are playing April Fools with coaches who won't be coming, why not also add Smart. Bennett and Miller are not coming to the Bay Area.
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socaltownie;842299552 said:

Regarding Shaka:

I just think we don't know why he is still at VCU. He may be holding out for one of the top 5 jobs in college hoops (Kentucky, Duke, Indiana, Kansas, North Carolina) and figures that there is no harm to the Shaka brand by standing pat until one of those 5 opens up. On the other hand, he may be waiting for other things to happen. Turning down UCLA is actually a pretty smart career move - it doesn't take a rocket scientist to see that Mr. Dead Head will sit on the sideline and criticize you every season for not being Wooden and that the alums have ridiculously unrealistic expectations (and thus why the spin off campus isn't listed above).

It NEVER hurts to ask. I would be Shocked if Shaka said anything other than no but Sandy would be criminally stupid not to ask and we shouldn't assume anything about what motivates guys. Cal is a unique job - with both barriers to success and intriguing upside to a lot of coaches.


Well, to be fair, the fans/admin at UCLA are probably no different in their expectations than those 5 schools you mentioned. All expect a Final Four appearance, and anything less is a failure. Not that I've looked, but I'm sure there are some idiot duke fans that are calling for Coach K's head after the recent "failures."
GoBears58
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wifeisafurd;842299562 said:

As long as we are playing April Fools with coaches who won't be coming, why not also add Smart. Bennett and Miller are not coming to the Bay Area.


UVA and Dayton are not exactly UNC or Duke.

Virginia made the sweet 16 for the first time in 20 years and has not been a major force since Ralph Sampson left.

It's too bad that we can't get a big donor like a Thiel or Fisher type to help get us the $ to get a guy like Bennett.
UrsaMajor
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Do you really want a short-termer? Bennett is 71--how many years do you think he'd be around??
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My vote goes to Travis. Will do a better job recruiting and for continuity he gets an a plus.
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Mike D'antoni once he gets canned by the Lakers.
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socaltownie;842299552 said:

Regarding Shaka:

I just think we don't know why he is still at VCU. He may be holding out for one of the top 5 jobs in college hoops (Kentucky, Duke, Indiana, Kansas, North Carolina) and figures that there is no harm to the Shaka brand by standing pat until one of those 5 opens up. On the other hand, he may be waiting for other things to happen. Turning down UCLA is actually a pretty smart career move - it doesn't take a rocket scientist to see that Mr. Dead Head will sit on the sideline and criticize you every season for not being Wooden and that the alums have ridiculously unrealistic expectations (and thus why the spin off campus isn't listed above).

It NEVER hurts to ask. I would be Shocked if Shaka said anything other than no but Sandy would be criminally stupid not to ask and we shouldn't assume anything about what motivates guys. Cal is a unique job - with both barriers to success and intriguing upside to a lot of coaches.


Shaka got his coaching start and has his masters at California Univeristy!:p

His wife Maya is a writer/business journalist with degrees from Harvard and masters from Northwestern (journalism). Cal rugby coach Jack Clark visited VCU and sat with Maya in the stands for a game. She quotes him in her blog:
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Jack Clark, the long-time rugby coach of the University of California, Berkeley, put this notion of fortitude another way, during his recent visit to VCU. I sat with him at a basketball game, and he told me that his definition of mental toughness is simply the ability to move on to the next most important thing. Winners don’t expect to get a good break and they aren’t debilitated by bad ones. They consistently take what comes and do what’s next, he said. He should know; he’s won 22 national championships that way.

http://mayasmart.com/category/essays/

So I'm sure Jack Clark knows Shaka too. I think if Sandy puts Jack Clark on the search committee (he should be anyway) and goes to see Shaka and Maya, with maybe the chancellor coming up with an opportunity for Maya at Haas or at the J-school...who knows?
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GoBears58;842299344 said:

He played for over 10 years in the NBA and was admired by many in the Warriors organization...


He set the best screens to block the coach's huddle during timeouts. Otherwise, he never got off the bench in ten seasons. Admired by many? Apparently not Mark Jackson.
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UrsaMajor;842299617 said:

Do you really want a short-termer? Bennett is 71--how many years do you think he'd be around??


Correction, DICK Bennett turns 71 later this month and retired in 2006. TONY Bennett is his 44 year old son who took over for him at WSU, led the Cougs to a sweet 16, and just led UVA to a #1 seed and a sweet 16 appearance.

He'd probably be perfect, but we can't get him without donors ponying up huge dough.
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UrsaMajor;842299617 said:

Do you really want a short-termer? Bennett is 71--how many years do you think he'd be around??


Not his dad who beat us at Wisky Green Bay... Tony is 44
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kgun98;842299646 said:

He set the best screens to block the coach's huddle during timeouts. Otherwise, he never got off the bench in ten seasons. Admired by many? Apparently not Mark Jackson.


http://sports.yahoo.com/news/warriors-coach-mark-jackson-forces-reassignment-of-assistant-brian-scalabrine-184142899.html

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Over the past two years, Jackson's difficulty with managing his coaching staff and creating a functional work environment has developed into one of the issues that threatens his future on the job, league sources said.

Scalabrine, who joined the staff in July, was Jackson's choice as an assistant coach. For two straight years, Jackson has had issues with assistant coaches that he hired. Michael Malone and Jackson would go weeks without speaking to each other a year ago, league sources said. Malone left Golden State to become the head coach of the Sacramento Kings.


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Scalabrine, 36, had an 11-year NBA playing career. He had been offered a chance to join Tom Thibodeau's coaching staff with the Chicago Bulls after finishing his playing career there in 2012, but elected to try broadcast media for a year. He had come to Jackson's staff highly recommended by Thibodeau.


As someone who follows the Warriors very closely, it's my belief that Jackson is the problem, not all the assistants. It becoming to seem more and more likely that Jackson will be on his way out if the Warriors can't sustain playoff success this year. Management hasn't exactly been having an easy time working with him either. It's almost like he's to the Warriors what Mike Singletary was for the Niners; a player's coach who can motivate the team and engineer a complete turnaround, but not an X's and O's coach who can get the team to the promise land.
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GoBears58;842299553 said:

No it's not. Mark Jackson is no Larry/Hubie Brown as far as X's and O'/ strategy so who knows why he demoted Brian after arguing with Pete Myers.

By the way,
Pat Riley was an assistant for only one year with the Lakers and then led them to a title his first full season as an "interim" coach. He was a broadcaster before that.


Kidding, no..


I can already imagine the sh!tstorm that hiring Scalabrine would bring with his limited resume. We have no idea about his X's and O's ability, recruiting skill, etc. Talk about risky... I'd take Decuire over Scalabrine in a second if that's the only choice.

I would also say Riley kinda lucked into the HC job with the Lakers when Magic revolted on Westhead during the season. He wasn't even the first choice to be interim coach. I really doubt he would've kept the job if they hadn't won a championship that year.
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philbert;842299673 said:

I can already imagine the sh!tstorm that hiring Scalabrine would bring with his limited resume. We have no idea about his X's and O's ability, recruiting skill, etc. Talk about risky... I'd take Decuire over Scalabrine in a second if that's the only choice.

I would also say Riley kinda lucked into the HC job with the Lakers when Magic revolted on Westhead during the season. He wasn't even the first choice to be interim coach. I really doubt he would've kept the job if they hadn't won a championship that year.


What we do know is that the White Mamba can beat the snot out of the best amateurs and semi-pros in a one-on-one game that the city of Boston has to offer.

http://www.boston.com/sports/blogs/thebuzz/2013/01/brian_scalabrin.html

He also presumably knows Thibodeau's system like the back of his hand, enough that the team was willing to sign him to serve as a de facto assistant coach, so that's something I guess.
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pingpong2;842299635 said:

Mike D'antoni once he gets canned by the Lakers.


No. My take is D'Antoni is purely a pro coach. His system only worked with a prime Steve Nash. And he doesn't do defense. Not to mention being a college coach involves much more than what happens on the court and in the practice gym.
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tsubamoto2001;842299679 said:

No.


He'll be the basketball version of Dykes. Consistency across all our revenue sports.
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kgun98;842299646 said:

He set the best screens to block the coach's huddle during timeouts. Otherwise, he never got off the bench in ten seasons. Admired by many? Apparently not Mark Jackson.


Doc Rivers thought enough of him to keep him around.

Doc Rivers > Jackson
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93gobears;842299380 said:

Racist.


Racist against giant paisano gingers. That must place me in a fairly select club. Is there a secret handshake or ritual of some sort?
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bearister;842299816 said:

Racist against giant paisano gingers. That must place me in a fairly select club. Is there a secret handshake or ritual of some sort?


You must eat the pink truffle through your nose.
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