It would break my heart if both guys wanted to return but left because we couldn't complete a deal with coach. The tweets suggest they are considering but maybe just waiting on all the nonsense???

Optimistic Bear;842674598 said:

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It would break my heart if both guys wanted to return but left because we couldn't complete a deal with coach. The tweets suggest they are considering but maybe just waiting on all the nonsense???

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The thing is, why would Cal wait on the investigation of Cuonzo? At most he would get light sanction (even though under these facts it would be wholly undeserved, but you never know about UC politics). It's not like a rape occurred. It's not like there was a huge power difference or this relationship was a direct report. It's not like a student was involved. It's not like both parties weren't behaving unprofessionally or inappropriately. So this is not at the heart of what Title IX is even ramping up against -- I mean even the Hufnagel investigation. So why the hell is Cuonzo's contract being hung up over a piece of crap investigation like this? ***SMH***

KoreAmBear;842674605 said:

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The thing is, why would Cal wait on the investigation of Cuonzo? At most he would get light sanction (even though under these facts it would be wholly undeserved, but you never know about UC politics). It's not like a rape occurred. It's not like there was a huge power difference or this relationship was a direct report. It's not like a student was involved. It's not like both parties weren't behaving unprofessionally or inappropriately. So this is not at the heart of what Title IX is even ramping up against -- I mean even the Hufnagel investigation. So why the hell is Cuonzo's contract being hung up over a piece of crap investigation like this? ***SMH***

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I agree with you but we need to have patience for a little while longer. Supposedly they are going to resolve this by the first of next week. My guess is all will be well, but we are Cal so who the hell knows whatca fucla we might be dealt next?

oskidunker;842674609 said:

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I agree with you but we need to have patience for a little while longer. Supposedly they are going to resolve this by the first of next week. My guess is all will be well, but we are Cal so who the hell knows whatca fucla we might be dealt next?

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Resolving this investigation it either way is irrelevant to his current contract status. It means very little. It's not something subject to heavy discipline or termination. It's lame. Oh well, but I get your point that it can all work out by next week. But for Cal to wait on this investigation to finalize Cuonzo's contract in the first place is just plain stupid and reflects administration out of fear and extreme insecurity.

I have read, somewhere I don't recall, that the hangup has nothing to do with the investigation but I don't know what it would have to do with.

KoreAmBear;842674605 said:

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The thing is, why would Cal wait on the investigation of Cuonzo? At most he would get light sanction (even though under these facts it would be wholly undeserved, but you never know about UC politics). It's not like a rape occurred. It's not like there was a huge power difference or this relationship was a direct report. It's not like a student was involved. It's not like both parties weren't behaving unprofessionally or inappropriately. So this is not at the heart of what Title IX is even ramping up against -- I mean even the Hufnagel investigation. So why the hell is Cuonzo's contract being hung up over a piece of crap investigation like this? ***SMH***

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oskidunker;842674609 said:

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Supposedly they are going to resolve this by the first of next week.

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Do you mean resolve the harassment complaint or the contract status ? Is there a source for the resolution timeline ?

Most of us have little confidence in the Cal administration.

RJABear;842674626 said:

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Most of us have little confidence in the Cal administration.

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Cal's administration inspired Kafka to write "The Castle" and name his protagonist "K" for Kal.

Eric Clapton is suing Cal's Administration for imitating him..... Slowhand.

bluesaxe;842674612 said:

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I have read, somewhere I don't recall, that the hangup has nothing to do with the investigation but I don't know what it would have to do with.

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I don't think it does. I think it has more to do with the usual bureaucratic financial riff-raff that drags everything out at the university to an interminable halt. The Dykes contract situation is very much the same as this one.

But I wouldn't be surprised if they use that as the eventual excuse for letting him go. The UCs are under a lot of political pressure to handle their treatment of professors/academics/staff for sexual misconduct. They can't and don't punish many of these people because of tenure. So they'll sacrifice the basketball coaches to show that they're being more progressive at attacking the issue. Yann was probably enough, but I could see them extending it toward Cuonzo for PC reasons.

I kind of think people here are freaking out a bit prematurely. But, then again, I have only known relative good times.

Whatever these two gentlemen decide will be well thought out and the right decision. They are truly exceptional humans.

No.

DrDanger;842674790 said:

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No.

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You speak with the authority of someone who knows. Perfect.

LessMilesMoreTedford;842674695 said:

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I don't think it does. I think it has more to do with the usual bureaucratic financial riff-raff that drags everything out at the university to an interminable halt. The Dykes contract situation is very much the same as this one.

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Bingo. When stuff like this happens, it's usually not that much about what's good for the athletic department or the university or what the ideal outcome is. It's about the self-interested concerns of whoever's handling it, whether their rear end is covered, and sometimes even how big their workload is.

parentswerebears;842674765 said:

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I kind of think people here are freaking out a bit prematurely. But, then again, I have only known relative good times.

Whatever these two gentlemen decide will be well thought out and the right decision. They are truly exceptional humans.

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This is BI; freaking out is what we do best.

68great;842676269 said:

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This is BI; freaking out is what we do best.

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It's an art form here.

Yes. I get it after this month. Really get it.