How is Huf "Protecting his players" by resigning?

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oskidunker
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Is he afraid they couldn't stand the scandal?
oskigobears
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Just fancy lawyer talk.

This way he can say he resigned from a bad university , rather than that he was fired, which would have happened tomorrow.

I would be surprised if Cuonzo isn't cleared also, in the report due tomorrow.
bluesaxe
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He isn't. He has a PR guy. He leaves now and he can say there was never a final determination but he had to leave because of a toxic atmosphere without acknowledging any blame for the toxicity.

oskidunker;842675098 said:

Is he afraid they couldn't stand the scandal?
KoreAmBear
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bluesaxe;842675184 said:

He isn't. He has a PR guy. He leaves now and he can say there was never a final determination but he had to leave because of a toxic atmosphere without acknowledging any blame for the toxicity.


That's true. Preempt the termination and not go through this appeal because it won't lead to any money anyway. A civil suit against UC for abuse of process, and some sort of bad faith tort may be the way to go for him. This is not the end by a long shot.
bluesaxe
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If he can land another coaching job somewhere he'd be better off just dropping it. And I think he has a better chance of getting employed if this is behind him with no resolution. But that's just my opinion. I wouldn't take that case on a contingency, I know that. UC has a lot of protection and she's probably judgment-proof.

KoreAmBear;842675191 said:

That's true. Preempt the termination and not go through this appeal because it won't lead to any money anyway. A civil suit against UC for abuse of process, and some sort of bad faith tort may be the way to go for him. This is not the end by a long shot.
MSaviolives
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I think he can say to potential employers that the "toxic" situation was Cal's harassment scandal that was sure to result in his being railroaded to appease the public--case in point being the diving coach who got docked $450 after hundreds of alleged harassing comments, offering the complainant $300 for oral sex and apparently climbing up on the complainant...and yet Huf gets fired for flirting with a reporter. I also suspect that there were indications that the Skelly Hearing was not going to go well for Huf--even after the alleged 900 texts--so better to resign and be the victim than have an official finding rejecting his full defense and potentially having the 900 texts released as well.
BearDevil
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MSaviolives;842675306 said:

I think he can say to potential employers that the "toxic" situation was Cal's harassment scandal that was sure to result in his being railroaded to appease the public--case in point being the diving coach who got docked $450 after hundreds of alleged harassing comments, offering the complainant $300 for oral sex and apparently climbing up on the complainant...and yet Huf gets fired for flirting with a reporter. I also suspect that there were indications that the Skelly Hearing was not going to go well for Huf--even after the alleged 900 texts--so better to resign and be the victim than have an official finding rejecting his full defense and potentially having the 900 texts released as well.


Tend to believe that Yanni has another job lined up or Cal cut him a fat check already. Can't imagine they would pay him off without eliminating any future litigation possibilities.

Diving case makes no sense to me. Get that it's a low profile sport, but diving is a chronic weakness (cost Durden a title in 2010) and a $450 fine is a wrist slap. Durden and McKeever are legacy coaches destined for the HOF, but still don't think you brush something under the carpet to appease then while hanging Cuonzo out to dry.
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BearDevil;842675314 said:

Tend to believe that Yanni has another job lined up or Cal cut him a fat check already. Can't imagine they would pay him off without eliminating any future litigation possibilities.

Diving case makes no sense to me. Get that it's a low profile sport, but diving is a chronic weakness (cost Durden a title in 2010) and a $450 fine is a wrist slap. Durden and McKeever are legacy coaches destined for the HOF, but still don't think you brush something under the carpet to appease then while hanging Cuonzo out to dry.


I thought the diving coach incident happened at another school in the Big-12? - not at Cal.
BearDevil
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BeachedBear;842675324 said:

I thought the diving coach incident happened at another school in the Big-12? - not at Cal.


Having trouble with the links, but there's a SwimSwam artlcle in the other Yanni thread and the Daily Cal has additional details about Todd Mulzet, current Cal diving coach.
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bluesaxe;842675184 said:

He isn't. He has a PR guy. He leaves now and he can say there was never a final determination but he had to leave because of a toxic atmosphere without acknowledging any blame for the toxicity.


hmm... where have I seen this before....

oskigobears
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I have no clue why Mulzet is still coach, but I surely hope his contract will not be renewed when it is up.
KoreAmBear
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bluesaxe;842675300 said:

If he can land another coaching job somewhere he'd be better off just dropping it. And I think he has a better chance of getting employed if this is behind him with no resolution. But that's just my opinion. I wouldn't take that case on a contingency, I know that. UC has a lot of protection and she's probably judgment-proof.


UC has a lot of protection, but their inept administration is so well known that it may be judicially noticed as a true fact LOL. Plus it's a huge deep pocket, so I could have seen him settling for a few hundred thousand. If I was a plaintiff's attorney doing that sort of thing, it would have been a no brainer.
wifeisafurd
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BearDevil;842675314 said:

Tend to believe that Yanni has another job lined up or Cal cut him a fat check already. Can't imagine they would pay him off without eliminating any future litigation possibilities.

Diving case makes no sense to me. Get that it's a low profile sport, but diving is a chronic weakness (cost Durden a title in 2010) and a $450 fine is a wrist slap. Durden and McKeever are legacy coaches destined for the HOF, but still don't think you brush something under the carpet to appease then while hanging Cuonzo out to dry.


This is the typical issue that colleges are finding with these cases. In this situation, the coach said it never happened, so there was the classic she said/he said with really no supporting evidence that I could see in the redacted report (I need a life). So my guess is Cal compromised, and found him guilty, but provided a light penalty. Edit: according to news reports there were other incidents.

This is not the Yanni case where there is obvious sexual conduct, and admissions and text messages, but a claim by the coach that everything was permissive due to the nature of the relationship (this is a general summary, but you the difference).
beelzebear
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oskigobears;842675373 said:

I have no clue why Mulzet is still coach, but I surely hope his contract will not be renewed when it is up.


I read why he was docked 5% pay, he harassed and goated a student-athlete by saying he'd pay $300 for oral sex from him. I'm sure it was just good old fashioned Olympic motivational bullying but that seems like a fire-able offense.
BearDevil
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wifeisafurd;842675395 said:

This is the typical issue that colleges are finding with these cases. In this situation, the coach said it never happened, so there was the classic she said/he said with really no supporting evidence that I could see in the redacted report (I need a life). So my guess is Cal compromised, and found him guilty, but provided a light penalty.

This is not the Yanni case where there is obvious sexual conduct, and admissions and text messages, but a claim by the coach that everything was permissive due to the nature of the relationship (this is a general summary, but you the difference).


Thanks for the summary. Almost certain his contract won't be renewed. Cal will finally have competitive diving facilities in the new complex, so Durden/Teri can finally upgrade diving recruiting and coaching. Current divers have to travel to the farm twice a week to train using proper facilities.

Chinese divers are all the rage, so Bears may hire a Chinese coach as a replacement and start a pipeline. "Berkeley" name plays very well in China and Bears have had recent Chinese swimmers on both teams, so recruiting shouldn't be terribly hard. Just need to recruit a tower specialist and a spring specialist every other recruiting class.
BearDevil
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beelzebear;842675400 said:

I read why he was docked 5% pay, he harassed and goated a student-athlete by saying he'd pay $300 for oral sex from him. I'm sure it was just good old fashioned Olympic motivational bullying but that seems like a fire-able offense.


Wasn't an athlete, but another assistant coach/staffer.
beelzebear
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BearDevil;842675407 said:

Wasn't an athlete, but another assistant coach/staffer.


Okay, my bad. In that case, if I'm the other assistant, I either kick that guy's butt right there...or make him sleep with one eye open the rest of his life. As the gentleman I'd give him the choice but I'd absolutely execute on it.
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