That was impressive.

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HungryCalBear
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bluesaxe;842762776 said:

Why would it be? Moore was more in control than Jaylen Brown. He's not a better NBA prospect or necessarily more of an impact player, but he's way better moving with the ball, a better shooter, and less prone to turnovers.


and more prone to fouls
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UrsaMajor;842762866 said:

this was a perfect example of the flaw in counting assists as the be-all and end-all of "team" basketball. Not only were there many excellent passes that let to misses, but most of Moore's or Singer's passes into the post led to fouls and free throws. You don't get an assist if the shooter makes free throws instead of a field goal, and UCI was bound and determined to not let us score inside. We shot 42 free throws! (and made 30) If those 30 makes were buckets, we'd have a ton of assists.

Note to Californication: this is what CM meant by "aggressive," and I don't think it looks selfish in any way.


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south bender
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Given that Moore himself was 15 of 17, the rest of the crew was 15 of 25, or 60%. Not good.
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Domingo has never shown me anything as a shooter in all his time at Cal. There is no reason in this world to believe that will change - look at his stats last year - it is the SOS this year.
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Cal8285;842762824 said:

Box score shows Rooks and Kingsley with 3 TO's each, 6 total. However, first half box score showed 5 of those 6 TO's. Team had 8 in the first half, 10 for the game. I'll sure take 2 TO's for the TEAM in 25 minutes of play, only one of which came from our twin towers.

And the fact that 7 of Rooks 15 points were on FT's isn't a bad thing. I wish he had been 8 or 9 for 12 from the line instead of 7, but getting the ball down low and drawing fouls isn't a bad thing. Moore had 38 points, but 15 of them on FT's. That doesn't water down his 38 points. Drawing fouls is a good thing. Getting opponents in foul trouble is a good thing. I'll take those numbers from Rooks every game (especially if he avoids TO's like he did in the last 25 minutes). We won't likely get those numbers from Rooks if everyone is healthy, and I don't know the extent to which he replicates this in conference play, but for now, I'll be happy with it.


This is in response to why Moore got 0 or 1 assists. Of course Rooks making 7 FTs isn't a bad thing. But Rooks FTs means no Moore assist.
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Domingo has always been a good shooter, he just hasn't had the minutes to get in rhythm and feel confident (36 attempts in 30 games last season). Watch him in warmups and he's knocking down a very high percentage.

He's also shown some nice moves and scoring in the paint and from midrange this year. His 6'7" size and athletic ability are big pluses giving him better shot opportunities than most wings will see.

Another plus is that he can defend a post player on one end, then pull an opposing post out away from the basket by being a solid threat from 3 on the other.
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R90;842763225 said:

Domingo's has always been a good shooter, he just hasn't had the minutes to get in rhythm and feel confident (36 attempts in 30 games last season). Watch him in warmups and he's knocking down a very high percentage.

He's also shown some nice moves and scoring in the paint and from midrange this year. His 6'7" size and athletic ability are big pluses giving him better shot opportunities than most wings will see.

Another plus is that he can defend a post player on one end, then pull an opposing post out away from the basket by being a solid threat from 3 on the other.


Sam's confidence in taking a shot this year is much improved over last season. (good).. so, D cannot leave him open on purpose, sagging in.

Stephen's 3 point % not good so far this season, but do feel he will find his 3 point groove. His 3 off a curl early in O/T helped create lead was clutch.. (granted he did miss many others that were much easier shots)

RMB is team's best on ball defender..(my opinion) with his quickness, lenght, hops, and willinging to get floor burns. Expect him to make P12 network's weekly highlights more than a few times this season with some tomahawk slams after misssed shots slashing in from the wing.

Much has already been posted about Charlie showing up hugh when 3 starters had DNP's next to their name.. Getting a Cal freshman scoring record in 2nd game of his career.. nice.
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R90;842763225 said:

Domingo's has always been a good shooter, he just hasn't had the minutes to get in rhythm and feel confident (36 attempts in 30 games last season). Watch him in warmups and he's knocking down a very high percentage.

He's also shown some nice moves and scoring in the paint and from midrange this year. His 6'7" size and athletic ability are big pluses giving him better shot opportunities than most wings will see.

Another plus is that he can defend a post player on one end, then pull an opposing post out away from the basket by being a solid threat from 3 on the other.


Agreed. Hopefully his confidence will grow and he'll be a big contributor to our Bears' success.
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7/12, but who's counting. What impressed me is that he did a lot of little things that don't show up--he seems to have much better court sense than last year. His seal-offs on Moore's and Singer's drives were impressive.
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MiltyBear;842763200 said:

This is in response to why Moore got 0 or 1 assists. Of course Rooks making 7 FTs isn't a bad thing. But Rooks FTs means no Moore assist.


I think with Rabb, more of those are AND 1's which could have been another 4 or 5 assists for Moore.
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bluesaxe;842762613 said:

UCI isn't great, but they are well coached and played disciplined smart ball. Moore was amazing. Coming back from way down showed some serious poise.

The thing I love about Moore was at no time did he seem stressed. Made pressure free throws, was aggressive but under control, ran the plays and didn't get too crazy. I see the Randle comparisons, but Randle was never this in control as a frosh.

This team could be very good if they all get some time on the court together.


+100

What a great game by Charlie Moore. What I liked most about Moore in this game was he has brought the mid-range jumper back to Cal basketball, in bunches. I have written several times that in the modern game with defenders splitting their time guarding the rim or a post player and guarding the perimeter, there is this 10 foot or so wide semi-circular area between the three point line and the lane that often provides open looks for a jump shot. True, it is only worth two points instead of three, but the percentage of hitting an open mid-range jumper is quite a bit higher than the average percentage for an open 3 point shot. So why not take what the defense is giving you? In the Irvine game, that is exactly what Charlie Moore did.

I was also impressed by Moore's free throws. His mechanics were repeatable, and he was so calm under pressure. In fact, his facial expression is one of calm, and it never changed throughout the game, as far as I could tell on TV.

A better ball-handler than either Wallace or Brown. You don't have to worry about him bouncing the ball.

As to the assists question, you can win games against weak or average teams with few assists (Cal had 8) and a big game from a star player, but night in, night out, against PAC12 teams and better, you need some more sharing of the ball to be a great team. Nothing wrong with Moore not getting assists in early games, especially when he is working with a group that did not include the primary players he will be making passes to in upcoming games: Rabb, Bird, and Mullns.

This is one game, a great one for Moore, which followed two so-so games, by all reports. Now we know something of which he is capable at this level, and we only need to see if he can be fairly consistent, night in and night out. Another question I have is how he will fit in when Rabb, Bird, and Mullins return to action. You will then have 4 players who need the ball to be successful, and you need two or three of them to be successful when you play the better teams. So how will Moore react to a role where he takes fewer shots and has the ball less than he did in the Irvine game? And when he shoots fewer shots, will his shot still be consistent? Finally, how will Moore (and Cuonzo) react when opponents get video of Moore and scheme to stop him, especially his mid-range game?

This is in no way critical. Only to say that we have only seen a part of his game so far, and we will see more of it in the games to come. I am excited to see how he does in the next few games and how he will develop over the season and his career.
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KenBurnski;842762702 said:

I thought SFCBear said Moore failed his first game eye test. I am confounded.


Well, the first two games were not as good as this one. I think I had written he needed some time to adjust to the college game, that's all. I just didn't realize he could make the adjustment in only 3 days!

Go Bears!
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Most of them resulted from out of control drives into traffic, whether there was a flop or a real foul at the end. When you're out of control the defense tends to get the call.

SmellinRoses;842762859 said:

Actually a lot of those offensive fouls - were blatant flops. Clearly opponent coaches were telling their players to flop in front of him. Pac refs were clueless.
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